Canadian Dual Nationals 2.0 Edition, Chase for the 5 stars

[phresh]

24 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

We don’t have anyone who this would affect do we?

Sigur will be turning 21 right before Croatia’s Euro U21 qualifiers in October this year

Edited March 29 by phresh

[InglewoodJack]

8 minutes ago, phresh said:

Sigur will be turning 21 right before Croatia’s Euro U21 qualifiers in October this year

And I guess euro qualifiers count as an “A tier tournament” or whatever they call it, so same importance as Olympics, and thus if he plays, he’s gone forever, right? 

[Dominic94]

Paaes’s u-21 time looks to be literally after he turned 21 like all of them.

 

Eitherway, Suriname will eventually be a top 3-4 Concacaf team, so much talent that can be recruited.

[phresh]

3 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

And I guess euro qualifiers count as an “A tier tournament” or whatever they call it, so same importance as Olympics, and thus if he plays, he’s gone forever, right? 

Yes, Fifa considers them official matches and he would be permanently cap-tied

[Dominic94]

On 3/21/2024 at 6:15 PM, Footyeh said:

He's supposed to be playing for PSV U17's at next weekend's Generation Adidas Cup against MLS academies so it'll be interesting to see how he looks.  I imagine there will be streams.

What’s really weird is his bio has 4 flags and the Dutch one isn’t one of them

[Norrin Radd]

I guess this means that Mo Farsi is cap tied to Canada.

Also Raposo and Bair.

Edited March 29 by Norrin Radd

[phresh]

17 minutes ago, Norrin Radd said:

I guess this means that Mo Farsi is cap tied to Canada.

Also Raposo and Bair.

Just checked, here are their last national team caps and eligibility

Mo Farsi : last played March 25, 2021 vs Honduras U23 in Olympic qualification, he was over 21 and doesn't seem to be eligible for a one-time switch

Theo Bair : last played March 28, 2021 vs Mexico U23 in Olympic qualification, was also over 21

Ryan Raposo : last played March 28, 2021 vs Mexico U23 in Olympic qualification, also over 21

[narduch]

31 minutes ago, Norrin Radd said:

I guess this means that Mo Farsi is cap tied to Canada.

 

Lol. That is fucking funny

[Norrin Radd]

7 minutes ago, narduch said:

Lol. That is fucking funny

Somebody has egg on their face.

[Stryker911]

59 minutes ago, Norrin Radd said:

I guess this means that Mo Farsi is cap tied to Canada.

Also Raposo and Bair.

Also Abzi?

[Norrin Radd]

8 minutes ago, Stryker911 said:

Also Abzi?

Not sure, but I thought he only played in a friendly for the U23 team.

[phresh]

16 minutes ago, Norrin Radd said:

Not sure, but I thought he only played in a friendly for the U23 team.

He played in the qualifier vs Mexico U23

[Dominic94]

That would be hilarious, after literally saying he isn’t being advised properly we find out his reps don’t know the rule.

[InglewoodJack]

Wait… there’s no way in hell Farsi is captied to us? Like, there’s no way right?  Absolutely insane it true.

[costarg]

1 hour ago, phresh said:

Mo Farsi : last played March 25, 2021 vs Honduras U23 in Olympic qualification, he was over 21 and doesn't seem to be eligible for a one-time switch

I'm a little torn.  Part of me is like "karma is an honest and fair bitch, how do you like Canada now twerp?" and Canada should never call him up out of principle.  2- I feel a little bad for him, cause man, that is bad guidance and borderline idiotic if true.  3- a very very little part of me is like we might be able to use him at some point. 

[maplebanana]

5 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

Wait… there’s no way in hell Farsi is captied to us? Like, there’s no way right?  Absolutely insane it true.

I find that difficult to believe, considering it was an olympic qualifier (and not the olympics itself). As the rule is written, I'm surprised those 2 dutch players' request were denied in the first place.

[narduch]

24 minutes ago, maplebanana said:

I find that difficult to believe, considering it was an olympic qualifier (and not the olympics itself). As the rule is written, I'm surprised those 2 dutch players' request were denied in the first place.

This article confirms it. I'm not sure if Indonesia is still trying to appeal in their case.

https://www.bolanusantara.com/timnas/55312304481/ini-dia-waktu-kapan-kiper-fc-dallas-maarten-paes-debut-dengan-timnas-indonesia

 

[dyslexic nam]

33 minutes ago, costarg said:

I'm a little torn.  Part of me is like "karma is an honest and fair bitch, how do you like Canada now twerp?" and Canada should never call him up out of principle.  2- I feel a little bad for him, cause man, that is bad guidance and borderline idiotic if true.  3- a very very little part of me is like we might be able to use him at some point. 

I am petty.  Put me firmly in camp 1. 

[narduch]

Also, the player in question for Suriname, Daishawn Redan was a highly rated prospect that seems to not have turned out into much.

He is currently a teammate of Luca Petrasso at Triestina in Serie C (on loan from Venezia)

[maplebanana]

33 minutes ago, narduch said:

This article confirms it. I'm not sure if Indonesia is still trying to appeal in their case.

https://www.bolanusantara.com/timnas/55312304481/ini-dia-waktu-kapan-kiper-fc-dallas-maarten-paes-debut-dengan-timnas-indonesia

 

Yeah, the 2 dutch guys I'm not contesting. I'm pretty sure they're done if FIFA says so.

I'm more thinking Farsi, who played an olympic qualifying tournament at age 21. But that tournament was only for olympic qualifying, not a continental championship. These days they are nearly one and the same since the 2022 concacaf U20 championship also served as olympic qualifying, but when Farsi did it they were still separate. 

I would also point out that Farsi played on our futsal team, which also at least provisionally cap ties him to Canada (of all forms of soccer). I have no idea if there is a junior/senior breakdown or what tournament he played in though. 

[toontownman]

2 hours ago, Norrin Radd said:

Somebody has egg on their face.

While... ultimately all the best. There is also a fair part of me that would love this to be true lol.

I don't believe it for a minute though. The Olympics was a cap tie but was pretty sure it was confirmed a few years ago not qualifying.

[An Observer]

2 hours ago, narduch said:

Lol. That is fucking funny

I wonder what he feels in his heart now, other than “F*ck, I am an idiot”

[toontownman]

4 hours ago, An Observer said:

I wonder what he feels in his heart now, other than “F*ck, I am an idiot”

He has been frantically listening to Celine Dion, my heart goes on and sorry for love.. and then writing a love letter to Canada.

Forgive me for the things
That I never said to you
Forgive me for not knowing
The right words to say, to prove

That I will always be
Devoted to you and me
And if you can't feel that in my love
Then I'm sorry for not giving you enough

Edited March 30 by toontownman

[Obinna]

Lol it would be funny if he is cap tied, but it really gets under my skin how some people are treating him like the devil for wanting to play for another nation. I don't know, maybe I am the one who has changed, but it seems really childish, at least in this case. I always want eligible players to play for Canada, but damn have we always been this salty?

Anyways, I also wanted to take this opportunity to (once again) harp on the stupidity of these convoluted rules. The fact his advisors, who are immersed in the game professionally, possibly didn't know the rules just speaks how unnecessarily confusing they are. 

[Macksam]

2 hours ago, Obinna said:

Lol it would be funny if he is cap tied, but it really gets under my skin how some people are treating him like the devil for wanting to play for another nation. I don't know, maybe I am the one who has changed, but it seems really childish, at least in this case. I always want eligible players to play for Canada, but damn have we always been this salty?

Anyways, I also wanted to take this opportunity to (once again) harp on the stupidity of these convoluted rules. The fact his advisors, who are immersed in the game professionally, possibly didn't know the rules just speaks how unnecessarily confusing they are. 

I'm surprised the FIFA eligibility rules changed quietly and nobody here noticed until now considering alot of Vs study it religiosly like the Bible.

Anyhow, Farsi aside, I'm more concerned about the long term impact here. Does this mean a lot of the dual nationals will not have the luxury of experimenting going forward?