RS Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Who knows for sure, but its a little weird. He got more starts, mins etc with Miami last year than he was getting with TFC. As an attacking midfielder, Chapman was behind Victor Vazquez, then Alejandro Pozuelo, in Toronto. Depending on the formation, he also had Osorio ahead of him. Had he stayed in Miami he likely would've found himself behind Pozuelo again this year. His defensive game never seemed to be a strong point so he doesn't seem to have the ability to make himself a more well-rounded midfielder in the Osorio mould, or at least not an MLS or equivalent level. Which is a shame because I think he has some characteristics of a very good player at that level, just not enough to stand out IMO. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Wierd as in, he moved on from MLS right when he was getting the most game time, kind of counterintuitive. Some people would think thats a good sign that your finally making some headway, maybe you should stay. But maybe he thought it was his best chance to head to europe after a decent MLS year. Too bad it hasnt worked out, but he is an age now where playing a few years in CPL might look pretty inviting. I think WPG has unused cap space, hint hint. narduch and Ruffian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Bison44 said: Wierd as in, he moved on from MLS right when he was getting the most game time, kind of counterintuitive. Some people would think thats a good sign that your finally making some headway, maybe you should stay. But maybe he thought it was his best chance to head to europe after a decent MLS year. Too bad it hasnt worked out, but he is an age now where playing a few years in CPL might look pretty inviting. I think WPG has unused cap space, hint hint. His move and Liam Fraser’s move were so baffling to me, both were starting to breakthrough finally in MLS. I think they got starry eyes for Europe and forgot about the politics in such a move. I guess Lareya can speak to that also. narduch, gator, yothat2 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just saw that Chapman is no longer with Dundee FC, as of October 3rd. Played 35 minutes in total. johnyb, narduch, WestHamCanadianinOxford and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Try to find another euro club in the next few months, by all means. If not, Jay should try the CPL next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) There are relatively few reasonably well paid Kyle Becker and Marco Bustos type contracts available in CanPL for older Canadian players. Maybe he gets one of those maybe he doesn't. At 28 it might be time to turn the page and move on with the next chapter in life. Playing soccer professionally was never going to last forever anyway. Edited October 28, 2022 by Ozzie_the_parrot yothat2 and The Real Marc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: There are relatively few reasonably well paid Kyle Becker and Marco Bustos type contracts available in CanPL for older Canadian players. Maybe he gets one of those maybe he doesn't. At 28 it might be time to turn the page and move on with the next chapter in life. Playing soccer professionally was never going to last forever anyway. Harsh reality. I also don’t think he’s a game changer or difference maker to warrant a Bustos, Bakker style contract. Sadly I think he’ll try other leagues before going to the CPL…Let’s hope that by the time he gets there he isn’t completely washed. johnyb, Free kick and Pottsy3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Doubt he was making so much money at Dundee that CPL wouldn't be an option now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I think the CPL remains an option for all of the older Canadian players if they are interested in staying in the profession after their playing years are over, ie. coaching, administration, etc. Free kick, BearcatSA and Ivan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 What's the highest paid player in the CPL? Maybe 80 90k? I think Chapman would be one of the better players in the league at a crucial position. So if it's in that area I'm not sure why a guy in his twenties wouldn't be interested in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) On 10/27/2022 at 10:28 AM, MM3/MM2/MM said: Just saw that Chapman is no longer with Dundee FC, as of October 3rd. Played 35 minutes in total. Its been a while I think. I remember checking several weeks (maybe even Months) ago and not seeing his name on the roster. This is a small club that is often a good bet for relegation. One cant possibly be earning more from playing at Dundee FC than in MLS and maybe not much more than the CPL. From what I understand, they play in an older facility of around 10 or 11k seats and are planning to for a new 15k. A small club in a small league in a small country. Where else can you go from here? Edited October 28, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: What's the highest paid player in the CPL? Maybe 80 90k? I think Chapman would be one of the better players in the league at a crucial position. So if it's in that area I'm not sure why a guy in his twenties wouldn't be interested in that I've seen a number closer to 60k mentioned but there's no transparency on that. It's not so much that clubs wouldn't potentially be interested in the guy in talent terms it's more that there are relatively few contracts up for grabs at more than burger flipping money so there are tough decisions to be made on who to go for with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: I've seen a number closer to 60k mentioned but there's no transparency on that. It's not so much that clubs wouldn't potentially be interested in the guy in talent terms it's more that there are relatively few contracts up for grabs at more than burger flipping money so there are tough decisions to be made on who to go for with that. Chapman would be a Bustos Bekker type signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, SpursFlu said: Chapman would be a Bustos Bekker type signing Interesting. I don’t know what his best skillset is…Do you? To me he’s a great utility player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Shway said: Interesting. I don’t know what his best skillset is…Do you? To me he’s a great utility player I think its a bit like Davies.. LB for Bayern forward in Concacaf. If I remember him I recall a box to box midfielder who liked to get forward and pass the ball around. So I'm not sure but I think a CPL team would just plug him in the midfield and build around him Edited October 28, 2022 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebdeserio Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) On 10/28/2022 at 4:03 PM, Shway said: Interesting. I don’t know what his best skillset is…Do you? To me he’s a great utility player He was the master of coming in as a sub for TFC in a game they were already winning and grabbing a goal. That's all I remember of him. Edited October 29, 2022 by sebdeserio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 17 hours ago, sebdeserio said: He was the master of coming in as a sub for TFC in a game they were already winning and grabbing a goal. That's all I remember of him. You forgetting receiving the ball then immediately passing it backwards? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) On 10/28/2022 at 4:03 PM, Shway said: Interesting. I don’t know what his best skillset is…Do you? You hit it on the nose. Thats was exactly the problem. I dont know what his best skillset was either. Edited October 30, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 johnyb, narduch and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Former affiliate of Colorado Rapids. Also former club of Alan Koch. Also of note Houston Dynamo just scooped up their manager for an assistant role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Chose the USL over the CPL. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 hours ago, VinceA said: Chose the USL over the CPL. Interesting. Not really surprising if we’re talking about the money. To me Jay isn’t worth paying big money for on a CPL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Important to remember also that the USL Championship doesn't have a salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Important to remember also that the USL Championship doesn't have a salary cap. They have a salary cap, but they have spending limitations, read their CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Not sure what you are even trying to say at this point and why you think it is relevant. Philip Dos Santos made a comment about the USL Championship having fewer restrictions on salaries than CanPL in a recent interview on Onesoccer: That comes into play when a player like Jay Chapman is involved who would probably be looking for one of the largest salaries CanPL has on offer. PDS also talked about fewer loans from MLS being likely in future due to the emergence of Next Pro, which is an issue for the Valour given the impact players like Pantemis, Sirois and Rea have had with them. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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