Obinna Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Would be a great move. Would really let us see how good this kid is, playing in the same division as Bair, Paton and of course Loturi. Aberdeen are stronger than Motherwell and definitely Ross County, at least traditionally, so if that holds true and he goes there and does well he's probably in CanMNT call-up territory. It's also just a rumour, so I will try not to get too ahead of myself. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 @JasonDias any updates re Lucas that you can share with us? Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Not with the B team today either. Looked up Lucas Dias on Twitter, and probably won’t do that again Xavier., devioustrevor, GasPed and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Listed with U23 this year narduch, johnyb, NVsoccer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, jordan said: Listed with U23 this year This is the reserve team right? Not the B team that actually plays in the pyramid. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 5:16 PM, jordan said: Looked up Lucas Dias on Twitter, and probably won’t do that again I'm guessing Lucas Dias is such a common name that finding one specific dude named Lucas Dias would be like trying to find a specific John Smith at a John Smith convention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, VinceA said: This is the reserve team right? Not the B team that actually plays in the pyramid. Wondering this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, narduch said: Wondering this too This is my understanding. U23 is not the B team. The B team is the B team. The U23 team is the team under that. They may play in 3rd tier, but look it up for yourselves to confirm. narduch and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I was going to rant about how a move to Aberdeen as was rumoured would have been better, but here's a positive spin: U23s (far as I know) get there chance to train with the first team, if they are doing well. That's been the case with Dias for a while, so for all we know he has a breakout year with the U23s, gets more time with the B team (which he's played for in the past), and gets a look with the first team. All of this is certainly possible and since he's been in this situation for multiple years now (U23 team with B apperances), maybe this is the year it all comes together for him. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phresh Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Obinna said: I was going to rant about how a move to Aberdeen as was rumoured would have been better, but here's a positive spin: U23s (far as I know) get there chance to train with the first team, if they are doing well. That's been the case with Dias for a while, so for all we know he has a breakout year with the U23s, gets more time with the B team (which he's played for in the past), and gets a look with the first team. All of this is certainly possible and since he's been in this situation for multiple years now (U23 team with B apperances), maybe this is the year it all comes together for him. The fact he’s still playing at U23 level tells me the opposite in fact, his first B appearance was in 2021 and he hasn’t established himself as a starter. More likely Sporting staff don’t value him highly and he eventually joins a lower tier Euro team or comes back to North America Norrin Radd, An Observer, Corazon and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, Obinna said: This is my understanding. U23 is not the B team. The B team is the B team. The U23 team is the team under that. They may play in 3rd tier, but look it up for yourselves to confirm. According to Soccerway Sporting II play in the Liga 3 (3rd tier) Their U23 team plays in a U23 league that isn't part of the Pyramid Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, phresh said: The fact he’s still playing at U23 level tells me the opposite in fact, his first B appearance was in 2021 and he hasn’t established himself as a starter. More likely Sporting staff don’t value him highly and he eventually joins a lower tier Euro team or comes back to North America Have to agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, devioustrevor said: I'm guessing Lucas Dias is such a common name that finding one specific dude named Lucas Dias would be like trying to find a specific John Smith at a John Smith convention? In this case all the results were like a bag of hammers at a nail convention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, phresh said: The fact he’s still playing at U23 level tells me the opposite in fact, his first B appearance was in 2021 and he hasn’t established himself as a starter. More likely Sporting staff don’t value him highly and he eventually joins a lower tier Euro team or comes back to North America Logic would say this is most likely, despite me trying to see the situation in optimistic terms. blueseeka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) Just as a reference, these are the kind of players that are being called to the Portugal U21 squad: https://www.fpf.pt/pt/News/Todas-as-notícias/Notícia/news/41214/contextid/176 Essugo plays mostly with Sporting B but has gotten time with the first team. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dário_Essugo I hate to say it but at the moment Lucas Dias seems very very far from either a senior #CanMNT call-up or a Portugal U21 call-up. I wish him all the best this season and hope he proves me wrong and gets to play with Sporting B instead of just the U23s. Edited September 1, 2023 by Olympique_de_Marseille Obinna and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Just as a reference, these are the kind of players that are being called to the Portugal U21 squad: https://www.fpf.pt/pt/News/Todas-as-notícias/Notícia/news/41214/contextid/176 Essugo plays mostly with Sporting B but has gotten time with the first team. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dário_Essugo I hate to say it but at the moment Lucas Dias seems very very far from either a senior #CanMNT call-up or a Portugal U21 call-up. I wish him all the best this season and hope he proves me wrong and gets to play with Sporting B instead of just the U23s. He's 20 now and still playing reserve ball. Staying at Sporting at this point is doing him no favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, VinceA said: He's 20 now and still playing reserve ball. Staying at Sporting at this point is doing him no favours. Reserve ball at a major club at age 20 is never a problem. It is being proven that most Canadians that opt for first team minutes too early crash out and get pushed back anyways. Then we have chronic problems with overall tactical nous and skills, even Phonzie (poor first touch), that were never worked out when the player was young. If you are on the second team of a modest club, it is different. At Sporting the level is extremely high, they produce world class players, and you will develop still. If you've seen Lucas (not sure how many here have seen games, I watched a few in Youth League), he's skilled, disciplined, maybe not so flashy and not earth-shaking, and physically slight and probably needs to mature that way. Also, he's not a striker, so his value is not measured in goals. There's another thing, which is that the club itself will let a player know when they don't want him, or if he needs a loan to get minutes. If he's not released, and not loaned out, not sold, that is a decision on the part of the Sporting technical staff. So I think we should respect it. toontownman and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchryan11 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Soccer Canada just can’t have good things first Justin smith,JMR now Lucas Diaz Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 11:04 PM, Obinna said: This is my understanding. U23 is not the B team. The B team is the B team. The U23 team is the team under that. They may play in 3rd tier, but look it up for yourselves to confirm. There's a separate U-23 league in Portugal apparently: https://www.transfermarkt.pt/liga-revelacao-u23/startseite/wettbewerb/PT23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Mitchryan11 said: Soccer Canada just can’t have good things first Justin smith,JMR now Lucas Diaz Justin Smith has started all games (and i believe played every minute) for Avranches in the French National League. It is at least a start after being on the bench for the past two years toontownman, Addona, PegCityCam and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Don’t think he’s made an 18 this season yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, jordan said: Don’t think he’s made an 18 this season yet He's playing in the U21 division, no? Are line ups even findable for that league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 The club posts the lineups to all the games for the most part narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonDias Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 He's been sidelined since May with some nagging injuries and medical conditions. Should be up and running in a few weeks. Yes, the Scottish rumours were true he had looks from a few clubs from the SPL, the closest was ❤️s. Borjans Sweatpants, johnyb, JFL19 and 20 others 12 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, JasonDias said: He's been sidelined since May with some nagging injuries and medical conditions. That explains things! Wishing him all the best with his recovery. 💪 Addona, JasonDias and sebdeserio 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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