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17 hours ago, Aird25 said:

How could we not care how much he makes? We saw first hand last season what inflated wages for individual players can do to a team with a restricted budget like ours. It cost us a lot of points last season, along with injuries to those expensive players. 

I don't care because I hate salary cap talk.  Cap talk is the furthest thing from sports talk that is disguised as sports talk, it's business talk.

With that said here is why Pacific fans shouldn't care.  Pacific also had the most success with unknown young players and have made no secret that this is their philosophy.  Those are the cheapest players to add to the squad leaving lots of room for signings like this.

Outside of the club, no one knows how much money anyone made last season.  If you are referring to Haber, Issey, Fisk and De Jong, as the players with inflated wages, well only De Jong is currently signed.  Whether we know what the cap is or not you can see there is room as Haber, Fisk and Issey are gone and the big signings coming in are Bustos and Diaz. 

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2 hours ago, Stouffvillain said:

I don't care because I hate salary cap talk.  Cap talk is the furthest thing from sports talk that is disguised as sports talk, it's business talk.

With that said here is why Pacific fans shouldn't care.  Pacific also had the most success with unknown young players and have made no secret that this is their philosophy.  Those are the cheapest players to add to the squad leaving lots of room for signings like this.

Outside of the club, no one knows how much money anyone made last season.  If you are referring to Haber, Issey, Fisk and De Jong, as the players with inflated wages, well only De Jong is currently signed.  Whether we know what the cap is or not you can see there is room as Haber, Fisk and Issey are gone and the big signings coming in are Bustos and Diaz. 

The offseason must be absolutely torture for you then. I would much rather be talking about the sporting side of things, but in lieu of any on field action at the moment, roster building is what we're left with. If you cut out the money side of things, I don't think you can fairly assess decisions. Anyways, I personally find that aspect of the game fun to play along with, even if you don't. 

Pacific went very young last season, but I wouldn't call many of their players unknown. Most of the young guys had a fair bit of USL experience, and almost all were considered good prospects at one point. I'm curious to know if any of them were given a raise this season, after proving themselves competitive at this level.

If Bustos and Diaz replace Haber and Issey for the same salary, then I think we're greatly improved. Still, if we're relying heavily on the production of a few players, and 3 of those 4 spend good chunks of the season injured again, we're likely going to struggle similar to last season.

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2 hours ago, Stouffvillain said:

With that said here is why Pacific fans shouldn't care.  Pacific also had the most success with unknown young players ...

Perhaps you and I define "success" differently.

I love that we have given lots of minutes to young players and I want that to continue, but we barely finished mid-table and were in danger of earning the Wooden Spoon in the latter stages of the season.

I do expect our returning players to take a step up this year, and bringing in Diaz complements that and will give us a shot, but we were not successful last season.

 

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the myth of young unknown players still alive lol..chung baldisimo verhoeven campbell had usl experience..more pro experience than a lot of older players in the league and the team probably had more pro experience than some other teams..should have done better last year and should be playing for top spots this year

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On 2/7/2020 at 9:05 AM, Big_M said:

the myth of young unknown players still alive lol...

Who said anything about "unknown"? These players were and are "young" both in age and in experience.

And yes, they should have done better last year and should be in the race for the title this year

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5 hours ago, ted said:

Who said anything about "unknown"? These players were and are "young" both in age and in experience.

And yes, they should have done better last year and should be in the race for the title this year

I liked the model last year, it was bold. Fans even forgave it, understand what they were doing. I hope they build on most of it, especially with the youth. But you need the veterans to be the ones who really give you results, you can't ask teens to be doing that. Last year we had injuries, and then some positional problems, and overreliance on the kids hurt us in too many games. That is not even fair to the young ones, let the veterans carry the weight and the kids develop and shine when they can.

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This is a good move for everyone.  Irving needs to play.  He is still young (in keeeper years) and really has only had 2 full pro seasons.  If he is going to progress it has to be now and he should get every opportunity to shine.  

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2 minutes ago, Bison44 said:

This is a good move for everyone.  Irving needs to play.  He is still young (in keeeper years) and really has only had 2 full pro seasons.  If he is going to progress it has to be now and he should get every opportunity to shine.  

Agreed. He has a shot to be this year's Carducci.

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17 minutes ago, narduch said:

Agreed. He has a shot to be this year's Carducci.

What’s that supposed mean? Callum is already an established keeper. Besides, why wouldn’t Carducci be this year’s Carducci

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22 minutes ago, Aird25 said:

What’s that supposed mean? Callum is already an established keeper. Besides, why wouldn’t Carducci be this year’s Carducci

I would imagine that he means that Irving could earn a call up to CMNT

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14 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Are there any plans to bring in some young players?  By my count they have just 2 U21 players whereas they had about half a team starting week in and out last year. 

And 6 more that are 21 or 22. That’s half the roster that are U23. They kept their young core from last year. They’re just a year older.

It’ll be interesting to see what they do when half the team ages out in the same season. What is the cutoff for this year?

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10 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Are there any plans to bring in some young players?  By my count they have just 2 U21 players whereas they had about half a team starting week in and out last year.  

Is Haber coming back?  Would seem to be a waste.

They still have a few roster spots open and only need to add one U21 player. I would imagine they would probably add a U21 player from the island

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7 minutes ago, Aird25 said:

And 6 more that are 21 or 22. That’s half the roster that are U23. They kept their young core from last year. They’re just a year older.

It’ll be interesting to see what they do when half the team ages out in the same season. What is the cutoff for this year?

1999 born - so they just have Verhoeven and Hojabprour. 

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29 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

1999 born - so they just have Verhoeven and Hojabprour. 

That's crazy. Pacific are still a young team. This rule could result in a lot of players being forced out of the league. 

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6 minutes ago, narduch said:

I mean to have a break out season

Not to diminish Carducci's season, but even if Irving replicated what he did last season, I'm not sure you could call it a breakout season. He's already had solid seasons, and he's been called into the national team and played in the past

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2 minutes ago, Aird25 said:

Not to diminish Carducci's season, but even if Irving replicated what he did last season, I'm not sure you could call it a breakout season. He's already had solid seasons, and he's been called into the national team and played in the past

Agreed. Based on his past seasons, Irving is arguably a top 3 keeper in the league already imo

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