Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Acid-Tone said: I get the league is all about selling the sizzle with this potential deal, which really seems to be as much about propping up the AppleTV deal worldwide as the league itself. Since (as opposed to Beckham who was a good spokesman for the league) Messi seems media shy and doesn't even speak english. Combine that with Inter Miami not being very good right now, and the extra wear & tear from games on turf and all the travel in this league, I think he ultimately underperforms competitively and statistically. This has been in the works for years long before the Apple TV emerged and a key demographic that MLS has always wanted to attract is Spanish speaking Mexican-Americans. Edited June 7, 2023 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Messi will have a big effect on bringing mexican american fans to apple?? Ansem and jonovision 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Messi will have a big effect on bringing mexican american fans to apple?? I went to a Napoli Barcelona friendly at the Big House in Michigan a few years ago, the amount of Mexican Americans I saw that were at the stadium and tailgating before the game was unreal . The vast majority of the Mexican fans with Messi jerseys was crazy. So yes they are big fans of him , so I can see that angle on wanting Messi here for Apple makes sense . Free kick and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Worth noting that the point being made was only that speaking English isn't necessarily the be all and end all in a soccer context to the extent that it would be in other sports in North America. Liga MX ratings on Univision are higher than what the English Premiership attracts on NBC in an American context. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Messi will have a big effect on bringing mexican american fans to apple?? touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I was thinking this will help with European cred and mb open up South america, but sure spanish speaking americans too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bison44 said: I was thinking this will help with European cred and mb open up South america, but sure spanish speaking americans too. Yes, because the most alluring part of Messi's game is what language he's speaking... Ruffian and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Ansem said: He might do the same as Drogba - refusing to play on turf. Tough luck for Vancouver! Also, even if this is Messi - hard to believe that there will be an avalanche of Apple TV subscriptions worldwide just because of Messi. I don't doubt that it will in the US though. Zlatan, Beckham, Lampard , Pirlo all played on turf. Henry and Drogba did not. We'll see. Lots of the world doesn't necessarily follow one team, they follow one player. I actually think this might be the opposite of you: it doesn't move Apple subscriptions in the US that much, but it does move them more world wide (temporarily). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Watchmen said: Zlatan, Beckham, Lampard , Pirlo all played on turf. Henry and Drogba did not. We'll see. Lots of the world doesn't necessarily follow one team, they follow one player. I actually think this might be the opposite of you: it doesn't move Apple subscriptions in the US that much, but it does move them more world wide (temporarily). Following the player and paying a subscription to Apple TV to get the rest of the MLS games is 2 widely different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Watchmen said: Zlatan, Beckham, Lampard , Pirlo all played on turf. Henry and Drogba did not. We'll see. Lots of the world doesn't necessarily follow one team, they follow one player. I actually think this might be the opposite of you: it doesn't move Apple subscriptions in the US that much, but it does move them more world wide (temporarily). Away from a tiny handful of complete cranks on here I wonder how many people will be trying to spin Messi moving to Miami as a negative for MLS and Apple? He recently turned in a stellar performance winning the World Cup so it's not like he's in washed up hasbeen mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big_M Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 reminder that a formal agreement is not finalized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, Big_M said: reminder that a formal agreement is not finalized Hilarious if this falls through because Miami calculated their Gaber bucks incorrectly and he ends up in Kansas City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hopefully with Messi in MLS it inspires more and more players overseas to want to play in MLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Ansem said: Following the player and paying a subscription to Apple TV to get the rest of the MLS games is 2 widely different things. But they wouldn't be paying a subscription to Apple to watch the rest of MLS. They'd be paying it to watch Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Away from a tiny handful of complete cranks on here I wonder how many people will be trying to spin Messi moving to Miami as a negative for MLS and Apple? He recently turned in a stellar performance winning the World Cup so it's not like he's in washed up hasbeen mode. I'm sure many bank accounts will grow as a result of this move. Does it make a mid-season Vancouver vs San Jose match any more interesting? Not for me, or likely anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hate it or love it but soccer growing in popularity in the US also helps the popularity of soccer here . Unfortunately Canada is so tied into what happens in the US be it sports or culture or whatever . Therefore , if this Messi signing bolsters the sport in the US it will have the same effect in Canada . Ruffian, Macksam and Free kick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 hours ago, kacbru said: Hilarious if this falls through because Miami calculated their Gaber bucks incorrectly and he ends up in Kansas City. It would be great if Miami brought him in for a few games then flipped him for draft picks with some buttfuck nowhere team like RSL. kacbru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Acid-Tone said: I get the league is all about selling the sizzle with this potential deal, which really seems to be as much about propping up the AppleTV deal worldwide as the league itself. Since (as opposed to Beckham who was a good spokesman for the league) Messi seems media shy and doesn't even speak english. Combine that with Inter Miami not being very good right now, and the extra wear & tear from games on turf and all the travel in this league, I think he ultimately underperforms competitively and statistically. Messi signing with MLS = Beckham signing with MLS x 1000. This is the probably the most significant event in the league's history. 8 hours ago, Ansem said: He might do the same as Drogba - refusing to play on turf. Tough luck for Vancouver! Also, even if this is Messi - hard to believe that there will be an avalanche of Apple TV subscriptions worldwide just because of Messi. I don't doubt that it will in the US though. Apple subscriptions are one thing but you can definitely bank on a bunch of non-streaming, traditional TV deals to come in. 14 minutes ago, El Hombre said: It would be great if Miami brought him in for a few games then flipped him for draft picks with some buttfuck nowhere team like RSL. You think his contract would allow for such a thing to happen? 1 hour ago, jonovision said: I'm sure many bank accounts will grow as a result of this move. Does it make a mid-season Vancouver vs San Jose match any more interesting? Not for me, or likely anyone else. It doesn't but expect massive media deals and sponsorships to come considering arguably the best player in the world who just won the World Cup is going to sign with the league. The American Eurosnob who doesn't want MLS will now watch Inter Miami, the Mexican American who watches Liga MX will now watch Inter Miami. Edited June 8, 2023 by Macksam Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Watchmen said: But they wouldn't be paying a subscription to Apple to watch the rest of MLS. They'd be paying it to watch Messi. That's Apple's bet, we'll see but I have doubts. Not many Europeans are rushing to follow Ronaldo in Saudi Arabia and other big names have came to MLS before, didn't changed the perception from over there. jonovision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 If ticket prices are an indication then this is going to have an impact. You can watch Tfc vs Orlando for $30 in great seats. Any tickets involving Inter Miami on TM are around $350-500 now. They also stopped selling Miami home games after his expected arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Club Linesman said: If ticket prices are an indication then this is going to have an impact. You can watch Tfc vs Orlando for $30 in great seats. Any tickets involving Inter Miami on TM are around $350-500 now. They also stopped selling Miami home games after his expected arrival. Most likely due to the fact they're moving to the Dolphins home stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 Secondary Transfer Window signings begin...columbus signs a 25 year old ukrainian who was playing in croatia...cb with experience at lb also Columbus Crew Acquire Defender Yevhen Cheberko From NK Osijek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Funny. MLS & Inter Miami blindsided as Messi talked to Apple & Adidas separately narduch and Goal_Kick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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