trc2014 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Interesting - no start for Dike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Telfer is starting for Trinidad. trc2014 and N1ckbr0wn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, narduch said: Telfer is starting for Trinidad. Also Pena from Valour is starting. US already up 2-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xabuep2 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 FT USA 7-0 Trinidad & Tobago. Salvadorans and Puerto Ricans gain more confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 It’s 53 days until we play a wcq home game versus Bermuda. Does anyone know where in Canada it will be played? Will it even be played in Canada? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Will we even be able to call in our Euro based players? Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, narduch said: Will we even be able to call in our Euro based players? This was my next question lol. I’m going to assume if we hold the game in Florida for example it will be no problem calling them. Also, Bermuda lose out on Wells playing so it would hurt them worse since we now have a decent domestic squad to choose from. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 It would be extremely embarrassing for Canada not to host a World Cup Qualifier. But to then turn around and host it in a jurisdiction (Florida) with reportedly more cases of coronavirus than anywhere in Canada? I can't even find the right word to describe how incredibly stupid that would be... And I don't necessarily blame the CSA here. All of this uncertainty must be incredibly frustrating for them. Stryker911, NVsoccer, Ivan and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alex said: This was my next question lol. I’m going to assume if we hold the game in Florida for example it will be no problem calling them. Also, Bermuda lose out on Wells playing so it would hurt them worse since we now have a decent domestic squad to choose from. I don’t know if I’d agree that it hurts them worse. We’d miss out on Arfield, Eustaquio, Hutch, Larin, Davies, David, and many more. If only UK players are not allowed though, that would probably benefit us. Edit: I mostly replied based on your assertion that they’d be hurt more than us because they’d lose Nakhi Wells. They’d also lose about half of their other players in the squad too though, so I could see the case being made that it hurts them worse Edited February 1, 2021 by archer21 Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Obinna said: It would be extremely embarrassing for Canada not to host a World Cup Qualifier. But to then turn around and host it in a jurisdiction (Florida) with reportedly more cases of coronavirus than anywhere in Canada? I can't even find the right word to describe how incredibly stupid that would be... And I don't necessarily blame the CSA here. All of this uncertainty must be incredibly frustrating for them. It would be embarrassing... in a normal year. I agree the CSA has zero blame if we don’t play at home. I really just don’t think the government cares, and unfortunately a lot of other people feel the same way. Can anyone cite a case recently where any sports team or any event has occurred in Canada that brought in people from other countries that didn’t have a 2 week quarantine? I can’t. I really hope I’m wrong but my guess is we won’t see a home game until June. johnyb, Ivan, Kent and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Alex said: It would be embarrassing... in a normal year. I agree the CSA has zero blame if we don’t play at home. I really just don’t think the government cares, and unfortunately a lot of other people feel the same way. Can anyone cite a case recently where any sports team or any event has occurred in Canada that brought in people from other countries that didn’t have a 2 week quarantine? I can’t. I really hope I’m wrong but my guess is we won’t see a home game until June. Hate to say it but I think you're right on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Obinna said: It would be extremely embarrassing for Canada not to host a World Cup Qualifier. But to then turn around and host it in a jurisdiction (Florida) with reportedly more cases of coronavirus than anywhere in Canada? I can't even find the right word to describe how incredibly stupid that would be... And I don't necessarily blame the CSA here. All of this uncertainty must be incredibly frustrating for them. I think if it gets to that point where players can't travel to the games and they can't be held in the host countries it will end up getting canceled again. People need to start facing that reality. Just from a purely sporting sense, we should not accept that teams should be without important players due to travel and quarantine rules from different nations. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, archer21 said: I don’t know if I’d agree that it hurts them worse. We’d miss out on Arfield, Eustaquio, Hutch, Larin, Davies, David, and many more. If only UK players are not allowed though, that would probably benefit us. Edit: I mostly replied based on your assertion that they’d be hurt more than us because they’d lose Nakhi Wells. They’d also lose about half of their other players in the squad too though, so I could see the case being made that it hurts them worse I mean the way I see it is the best chance they would have of beating us is by playing with their best squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Alex said: It would be embarrassing... in a normal year. I agree the CSA has zero blame if we don’t play at home. I really just don’t think the government cares, and unfortunately a lot of other people feel the same way. Can anyone cite a case recently where any sports team or any event has occurred in Canada that brought in people from other countries that didn’t have a 2 week quarantine? I can’t. I really hope I’m wrong but my guess is we won’t see a home game until June. The NHL Training camp after Christmas in Canada only required a 7 day quarantine but now it's back up to 14 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 It's all really sad. Hopefully by the time the Hex comes around the walls have come tumbling down but with the government investing in covid hotels it doesn't look positive Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boominbooty Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 The way the US' vaccine roll out is going by end of March they are probably going to be one of the better locations on the planet to host a game. Canada is too slow with vaccinations and travel restrictions and quarantine expectations will still be in place. I bet our home games are in Florida. Herdman won't want the headache of trying to sort out the ins and outs of playing in Canada. He's tried Florida, it works, that's where they will play. I also would imagine that our top players in Europe will be vaccinated (if they aren't already) by then. Can't tell me that the clubs haven't made side deals to get vaccines for their players. money talks. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, sting said: The NHL Training camp after Christmas in Canada only required a 7 day quarantine but now it's back up to 14 days. They also allowed TFC to come home for a few days at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 In any case, worst case scenario we bring a domestic based squad in March. Our MLS players SHOULD be able to get us both wins. There really is no excuses, but hey, weirder things have definitely happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I'm pretty sure with the 1 game structure of the 1st rd each group will be in a centralized location. Probably Florida or a Caribbean nation CanadianSoccerFan, Ivan, nfitz and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) It would be interesting to know what CONCACAF is considering for a contingency plan. It might be a bit different if there were more windows available and say only 2 or 3 countries per group were supposed to have a "home" match in March, but all 5 countries in each group are supposed to have one. 30 countries total. 6 centralized locations with a group in each one seems like the way to go at this point. Just out of interest, I decided to go back to the start of the 2018 WCQ campaign, and see who the Group A to F seeded teams would have been if this year's format had existed then. The 2018 WCQ campaign used the FIFA rankings from August 2014, so we are talking 6 and a half years ago, but it's still really interesting. The 5 countries who would have automatically qualified for the octagonal: Costa Rica (ranked 1st in the region), Mexico, USA, Honduras, and Panama The next 6 who would have been assigned the top seed in each group from A to F: Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, Haiti, Canada, Cuba, and Aruba I wasn't expecting to see Cuba and Aruba ranked 10th and 11th in the region. Quite the drop for Aruba from then until now. Ranked 11th in 2014 and now they are the pot 5 team in our group (ranked 31st out of 35 in the region). Edited February 2, 2021 by jtpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) I think the goal is to have the home and away crossover match in home stadiums(June) The back up plan would be another centralized location or 1 venue back to back. If our government hasnt returned things back to normal by next fall when the Hex rolls around.. well who gives a hex about a hex at that point. God save us Edited February 1, 2021 by SpursFlu Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, jtpc said: It would be interesting to know what CONCACAF is considering for a contingency plan. It might be a bit different if there were more windows available and say only 2 or 3 countries per group were supposed to have a "home" match in March, but all 5 countries in each group are supposed to have one. 30 countries total. 6 centralized locations with a group in each one seems like the way to go at this point. Just out of interest, I decided to go back to the start of the 2018 WCQ campaign, and see who the Group A to F seeded teams would have been if this year's format had existed then. The 2018 WCQ campaign used the FIFA rankings from August 2014, so we are talking 6 and a half years ago, but it's still kind of interesting. The 5 countries who would have directly advanced to the octagonal: Costa Rica (ranked 1st in the region), Mexico, USA, Honduras, and Panama. The next 6 who would have been assigned the top seed in each group from A to F: Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, Haiti, Canada, Cuba, and Aruba. I was shocked to see Cuba and Aruba ranked 10th and 11th in the region. What a reversal of fortunes for Aruba. Ranked 11th in 2014 and now they are the pot 5 team in our group (ranked 31st out of 35 in the region). Our March 28 opponent, Cayman Islands, currently requires a 2-week quarantine for incoming visitors. nfitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, narduch said: Our March 28 opponent, Cayman Islands, currently requires a 2-week quarantine for incoming visitors. Canada also requires a 2-week quarantine for our March 24th game, theoretically in Canada against Bermuda. And $2,000 a person for hotel quarantine while they await test results. So that's $40,000 right there for any visiting team. Do Bermuda and Suriname have that type of budget? All moot of course, as clearly we won't be playing in either the Caymans or Canada in March. Unless they can get everyone to a neutral site like Florida, I'd think that they delay this until June, and cancel Gold Cup, or change the qualifying system again. Perhaps just put the top 8 teams in the Octagon to start in September - by which times vaccines should make the whole thing doable. Edited February 1, 2021 by nfitz narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One American Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I think they will forfeit the games for the home countries rather than let nations disqualify half of the roster of the opponents due to immigration laws. I suspect it won't come to that. Everyone will play in Florida, or something like that. Obinna and nfitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, nfitz said: Canada also requires a 2-week quarantine for our March 24th game, theoretically in Canada against Bermuda. And $2,000 a person for hotel quarantine while they await test results. So that's $40,000 right there for any visiting team. Do Bermuda and Suriname have that type of budget? All moot of course, as clearly we won't be playing in either the Caymans or Canada in March. Unless they can get everyone to a neutral site like Florida, I'd think that they delay this until June, and cancel Gold Cup, or change the qualifying system again. Perhaps just put the top 8 teams in the Octagon to start in September - by which times vaccines should make the whole thing doable. Maybe with Jin Jiang getting their beak wet off the situation in Canada perhaps they'll start letting more people come and go if they're willing to pay up the 2 geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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