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On 10/14/2018 at 6:29 PM, Stryker911 said:

Cav is still taking shots at Canadian soccer... Speaking about Osorio.

He's a really interesting player," said Cavallini. "You don't really get players like that in Canada -- really technical. I guess his grassroots being Colombian really help."

Osorio was born in Toronto. Like his parents being Columbia. Is the reason why he plays technical?

Yes.  Football is cultural.  Cavallini and Osorio's South American backgrounds have clearly and obviously shaped their games, and for that I am thankful.  If not for their roots, they would not have had the passion, style or ability to make it to Nacional's academy in Uruguay.

They are both the type of players we need to win in Concacaf, and they should form the spine of this team. 

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Larin story...

Piette on being a leader

Osorio on CMNT aiming to dominate NL

Cav coming to TFC in future

These articles are from MLSsoccer.com good reads before game

From Canpl.ca :

Hutch speaking on retiring from international game after GC19

From Canada Soccer:

CMNT ready for game

 

I'm excited for the game tonight and hope their is a link or something for me to watch in the USA. If anyone got something please let me know. Seems like the teams are coming together well and seems that our team will build up a very good chemistry, but I am wondering why haven't players like C. Gutierrez, Godinho, or Cordova been called up yet? Would like to see true OB playing on the defense. Want to see Davies and Millar up top with Millar off bench most likely.

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On 10/16/2018 at 12:35 PM, BrennanFan said:

Yes.  Football is cultural.  Cavallini and Osorio's South American backgrounds have clearly and obviously shaped their games, and for that I am thankful.  If not for their roots, they would not have had the passion, style or ability to make it to Nacional's academy in Uruguay.

They are both the type of players we need to win in Concacaf, and they should form the spine of this team. 

What does this even mean? Do Europeans have the passion, style or ability to make it to Nacional’s academy? Do people with Trinidadian roots like Atiba Hutchinson have those assets in ample supply to make it on their academy? How about an African like Drogba or a Mexican like Chicharito or an Asian like Kagawa? Were Australia’s best players (Viduka, Kewell, Cahill) not good enough to make it onto a youth team for Nacional? I feel like a lot of those players are or were better than Osorio and Cavallini (and I love Oso and Cav).

I am pretty sure those players were probably good enough, they just weren’t South American enough and had other more local options.

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Did anyone here Sinclair’s remarks about the Concacaf womens tournament not having var? She stated “I’ve also been the type of person that believed if it is happening in the mens game it should be happening in the womens game” Is she unaware that VAR has never been used for a Concacaf event......

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1 hour ago, canta15 said:

Did anyone here Sinclair’s remarks about the Concacaf womens tournament not having var? She stated “I’ve also been the type of person that believed if it is happening in the mens game it should be happening in the womens game” Is she unaware that VAR has never been used for a Concacaf event......

It might be more of a message to FIFA. Since FIFA hasn't confirmed  that VAR being at the next WWC. 

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Just wanted to talk about Our players and their Club/contract Situations, who’s doing well and who should go

Pos | name | Club | playing time | Contract 

Stable ⬇️

GK - Milan Borjan | Red Star Belgrade | Lots | June 30, 2020 

DF - Sam Adekugbe | Valerenga | Lots | Dec 31, 2021

DF - Juan Cordova | Huachipato | Fine | Dec 31, 2021

DF - Manjrekar James | FC Midtjylland | Lots (On Loan at Fredericia) | June 30, 2022

DF - Marcus Godihno | Hearts | Injured |  May 31, 2020

MF - Samuel | Montreal Impact | Lots | Dec 31, 2019

MF - Russell Teibert | Vancouver Whitecaps | Average | Dec 31, 2020

MF - Jonathan Osorio | Toronto FC | Lots | Multi-Year Extension (?)

MF - Alphonso Davies | VWFC/Bayern Munich | Good/TBD | Dec 31, 2020 

MF - Scott Arfield | Glasgow Rangers | Lots | June 30, 2022

MF - Junior Hoilett | Cardiff City | Lots | June 30, 2021  

FW - Cyle Larin | Besiktas | Okay | June 30, 2022

FW - Lucas Cavallini | Puebla FC | Excellent | June 30, 2022

FW - Jonathan David | KAA Gent | Average | June 30, 2022

Developmental 

GK - Alessandro Busti | Juventus U23 | Bench | Year to Year

DF - Zach Brault-Guillard | OL B | Good | June 30, 2021

MF - Ballou Tabla | Barcelona B | Lots | June 30, 2020

SS - Liam Millar | Liverpool U23 | Good | Unknown 

Year to Year (need to remain there)

GK - James Pantemis | MTL Impact | reserves | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

DF - Doneil Henry | VWFC | Rotational | Expires Dec 31, 2018 

DF - Ashtone Morgan | Toronto FC | Fine | Expires Dec 31, 2018 

MF - Raheem Edwards | Chicago Fire | Good | Expires Dec 31, 2018

MF - Mark anthony Kaye | LAFC | Good before injury | Expires Dec 31, 2018 

MF - Jay Chapman | Toronto FC | Rotational | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

MF - Liam Fraser | Toronto FC | Rotational | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

Questionable 

GK - Maxime crepeau | MTL Impact | Lots (On loan at Ottawa Fury) | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

DF - Derek Cornelius | Javor Ivanjica | Unknown | June 30, 2020 (Serb div 2)

Needs to go/Find new Club

GK - Simon Thomas | Strommen | Okay | Expires Dec 31, 2018 (Norway div 2)

GK - Jayson Leutwiler | Blackburn Rovers | Bench | June 30, 2019 (Club option)

MF - Tesho Akindele | FC Dallas | Bad | Dec 31, 2018

MF - David Wotherspoon | St Johnstone | Dropped | May 31, 2018 

FW - Tosaint Ricketts | TFC | Occasional | Expires Dec 31, 2018

FW - Anthony Jackson Hamel | Montreal Impact | Dropped | Dec 31, 2019 

Thoughts?

Note: Please Excuse the formatting, don’t know why it didn’t stay the same throughout the list 

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3 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

Just wanted to talk about Our players and their Club/contract Situations, who’s doing well and who should go

Pos | name | Club | playing time | Contract 

Stable ⬇️

GK - Milan Borjan | Red Star Belgrade | Lots | June 30, 2020 

DF - Sam Adekugbe | Valerenga | Lots | Dec 31, 2021

DF - Juan Cordova | Huachipato | Fine | Dec 31, 2021

DF - Manjrekar James | FC Midtjylland | Lots (On Loan at Fredericia) | June 30, 2022

DF - Marcus Godihno | Hearts | Injured |  May 31, 2020

MF - Samuel | Montreal Impact | Lots | Dec 31, 2019

MF - Russell Teibert | Vancouver Whitecaps | Average | Dec 31, 2020

MF - Jonathan Osorio | Toronto FC | Lots | Multi-Year Extension (?)

MF - Alphonso Davies | VWFC/Bayern Munich | Good/TBD | Dec 31, 2020 

MF - Scott Arfield | Glasgow Rangers | Lots | June 30, 2022

MF - Junior Hoilett | Cardiff City | Lots | June 30, 2021  

FW - Cyle Larin | Besiktas | Okay | June 30, 2022

FW - Lucas Cavallini | Puebla FC | Excellent | June 30, 2022

FW - Jonathan David | KAA Gent | Average | June 30, 2022

Developmental 

GK - Alessandro Busti | Juventus U23 | Bench | Year to Year

DF - Zach Brault-Guillard | OL B | Good | June 30, 2021

MF - Ballou Tabla | Barcelona B | Lots | June 30, 2020

SS - Liam Millar | Liverpool U23 | Good | Unknown 

Year to Year (need to remain there)

GK - James Pantemis | MTL Impact | reserves | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

DF - Doneil Henry | VWFC | Rotational | Expires Dec 31, 2018 

DF - Ashtone Morgan | Toronto FC | Fine | Expires Dec 31, 2018 

MF - Raheem Edwards | Chicago Fire | Good | Expires Dec 31, 2018

MF - Mark anthony Kaye | LAFC | Good before injury | Expires Dec 31, 2018 

MF - Jay Chapman | Toronto FC | Rotational | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

MF - Liam Fraser | Toronto FC | Rotational | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

Questionable 

GK - Maxime crepeau | MTL Impact | Lots (On loan at Ottawa Fury) | Dec 31, 2018 (Club Option)

DF - Derek Cornelius | Javor Ivanjica | Unknown | June 30, 2020 (Serb div 2)

Needs to go/Find new Club

GK - Simon Thomas | Strommen | Okay | Expires Dec 31, 2018 (Norway div 2)

GK - Jayson Leutwiler | Blackburn Rovers | Bench | June 30, 2019 (Club option)

MF - Tesho Akindele | FC Dallas | Bad | Dec 31, 2018

MF - David Wotherspoon | St Johnstone | Dropped | May 31, 2018 

FW - Tosaint Ricketts | TFC | Occasional | Expires Dec 31, 2018

FW - Anthony Jackson Hamel | Montreal Impact | Dropped | Dec 31, 2019 

Thoughts?

Note: Please Excuse the formatting, don’t know why it didn’t stay the same throughout the list 

I don’t see Wotherspoon leaving his Hometown club. But I would love to see him play against St.Kitts. Maybe a  Caribbean massacre would get his game back on track. Cuz he’s got talent. 

 

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3 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

MF - David Wotherspoon | St Johnstone | Dropped | May 31, 2018

He hasn't been dropped, he has appeared in 6 out of St Johnstone's 8 matches so far this season and recently started against both Rangers and Celtic. He's doing just fine.

 

3 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

GK - Simon Thomas | Strommen | Okay | Expires Dec 31, 2018 (Norway div 2)

He has played every minute of every game for Strommen since signing for them in July (eleven matches in a row so far), so he's doing far better than "Okay" playing time-wise.

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49 minutes ago, Zem said:

He hasn't been dropped, he has appeared in 6 out of St Johnstone's 8 matches so far this season and recently started against both Rangers and Celtic. He's doing just fine.

He’s started 3 games of 8, came on as substitute three times and subbed off twice 

His 6 appearances add up to 265 Minutes which average to 45 out of the full 90’, Dropped have been an exaggeration should have said Fine for Wotherspoon

Definitely much less than what he’s used to 

49 minutes ago, Zem said:

He has played every minute of every game for Strommen since signing for them in July (eleven matches in a row so far), so he's doing far better than "Okay" playing time-wise.

At Konvingster he played very few times and so I’m doing a general overview of the season not just the last 3 months since being at Strommen 

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9 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

At Konvingster he played very few times and so I’m doing a general overview of the season not just the last 3 months since being at Strommen 

Yeah you're right. He didn't do well at an upper-half-league team, but did well at relegation-bound Strommen, helping them to avoid relegation. I guess that's his ceiling, lower level D2 Norway. Not exactly the level one should look for in a MNT (although it must be said, still better to play at a lower level than not to play, as Leutwiler for example). 

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38 minutes ago, Scorpion26 said:

FiFa Ranking

Well Canada has moved up 3 spots and are 76 in ranking. I'm surprised they've moved up since playing very weak oppositions so far. Anyways to be positive let us hope this upward trend continues and Canada can get into top 50 in two years and if lucky by end of 2019. 

Yes hopefully I just don’t expect any movement after this next fifa window unless they apply points for wins against non fifa members when they play French Guiana.

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5 hours ago, Daryn27 said:

Yes hopefully I just don’t expect any movement after this next fifa window unless they apply points for wins against non fifa members when they play French Guiana.

That’s the March window. November is Saint Kitts and Nevis.

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On top of these 23 players called up for this National league Qualifier vs St Kitts and Nevis I want to add that:

I don’t see Edgar, Cornelius, ZBG or Fraser part of the imminent future given their lack of playing time at their clubs.

Edgar - 31yo, nearly 32 (not likely to make it to Qatar 2022. His time with the NT May be coming to an end leading to the Gold Cup, played 10 games total in USL (NSH & OTT). If we weren’t so thin at CB he wouldn’t even be part of the conversation. Straith is actually playing regularly in 3.Liga captaining his side Sportfreunde Lotto And has the slightly more Caps than him and is 3 years younger and in form 

Cornelius - Not playing at all for Javor Ivanjica in the Serb 2nd tier, time to call it quits and move on. Same point as Edgar, not sure why he’s still being called up. Saying no for now, but not forever 

ZBG - Very young at 19 and talented player. Graduated from Olympique Lyon’s Academy to the reserve side. I think if he’s gonna be considered in the RB position he will need to move to a better league and have a breakthrough there to be in the picture. One to watch! 

Fraser - 21 year old CDM, someone who I would put in the 40 man Provisional roster, squad player for Toronto FC (Rotational) occasionally playing when called upon. Eligible for the Olympic U23 Qualifer next year in 2019. Deserves to be in the picture but in the last few places for Today. He will continue to develop but right now Jay chapman is beating him out in the argument 

Besides the 20 others: I think the following 13 deserve recalls / be involved in this process 

GK - Jayson Leutwiler 

LB - Ashtone Morgan

LB - Brett Levis 

CB - Adam Straith 

RB - Michael Petrasso 

RB - Juan Cordova 

MF - Scott Arfield

MF - Jonathan Osorio 

MF - Mark Anthony Kaye

MF - Tesho Akindele 

MF - Raheem Edwards 

ST - Tosaint Ricketts

ST  - AJH

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               CMNT Depth Chart by Position

                               CF/ST 

                         Larin   Cavallini 

                         David    AJH

                             Ricketts 

LW/LM                 CDM/CM               RW/RM

Hoilett             ^Atiba    Arfield          Davies 

Edwards          Piette    *Osorio    +Akindele 

Millar                Teibert     Kaye          Tabla

    LB                     CB         CB                RB

Adekugbe         Henry    James      Petrasso 

Morgan             Straith    Edgar        Cordova 

Levis                Cornelius   N/A         Godihno

 

                                    GK 

                                 Borjan 

                                Crepeau

                                Leutwiler 

                                Thomas

Notes: 

^ = Retiring after Gold Cup 2019

* = Can Play CAM, LM 

+ = Plays CF too

[Wingers/Left-Right Midfielders can play on either side]

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Petrasso shouldn’t be the starter at right back, he was really poor for the Impact this year. I may be wrong but I think he didn’t play a single minute on loan with the Fury.

Right now I think it’s better to try some younger players (Brault-Guillard and Godhino) with more upside at the position.  In my opinion they are already better anyway. 

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CPL draft and possible future CMNT...

Great to see the draft has gone by and future potential CMNT players will come out of this league. I don't know which player will come up, but hopefully the games are going to help some of these players to reach CMNT. Anyways comments from Herdman on CPL draft. Any one know those Canadian player drafted and which do ya think would be able to make it to CMNT?

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Side note here...

MAN did the USMNT looked bad yesterday...They look absolutely awful against England and yet their fans are still delusional into thinking that League of Nations is beneath them

The Gold Cup can't come fast enough.

 

 

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20 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

               CMNT Depth Chart by Position

                               CF/ST 

                         Larin   Cavallini 

                         David    AJH

                             Ricketts 

LW/LM                 CDM/CM               RW/RM

Hoilett             ^Atiba    Arfield          Davies 

Edwards          Piette    *Osorio    +Akindele 

Millar                Teibert     Kaye          Tabla

    LB                     CB         CB                RB

Adekugbe         Henry    James      Petrasso 

Morgan             Straith    Edgar        Cordova 

Levis                Cornelius   N/A         Godihno

 

                                    GK 

                                 Borjan 

                                Crepeau

                                Leutwiler 

                                Thomas

Notes: 

^ = Retiring after Gold Cup 2019

* = Can Play CAM, LM 

+ = Plays CF too

[Wingers/Left-Right Midfielders can play on either side]

Davies usually plays on the left for us. Since Davies has been in the team, Hoilett has moved to the right. 

DeJong is still my top choice for left back.

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CMNT DNA as Humble....

More from Herdman.

 

Anyways to comment on the USA game yea they got beat and Pulisic was pissed. I am surprised the USA team did not hire Martino felt like he was being primed for the role. However it seems G.Berhalter will be the man to take the rein of USA per rumors. 

CMNT got Herdman and hopefully he will help CMNT rise up the ConCaCaf as some of you pointed out Costa Rice going down a bit, USA not being the force it once was, and Mexico will always be around for sure. This is the time for CMNT to rise and place itselt in the top 3 power of ConCaCaf. Excited for tomorrow and hoping to see fullbacks playing not Davies or Millar at fullback positions. He got to bring in all players for each position to build that chemistry and letting them play their position. Don't be like Klinsmann... Herdman.

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