aloyol Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I thought Larin wasn t really good tonight. He struggled in holding the ball and misplayed too many easy pass. It was an off night for him for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I thought Larin wasn t really good tonight. He struggled in holding the ball and misplayed too many easy pass. It was an off night for him for sure. He was okay. Not his 11 goal self, but that was due to many factors. He wasn't getting any service unless it was in the air, and he was playing a lone striker with absolutely no support (No Kaka). TFC's middle four was very organized tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pride Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Larin is most definitely not used to the pressure. The Gold Cup is a JOKE compared to the pressure cooker that is WCQ. Inexperienced Canadian players NEVER produce in WCQ (against non-minnows). As good as Larin is, I'm concerned he will mentally shit himself. Our entire World Cup rides on that first Honduras home game. It's too soon for Larin. He'll only have been a pro for 8, 9 months in Nov. Larin isn't the problem. Yes I get what your saying, but the kid doesn't have a chance because we cannot deliver him a ball. You can have the best forward in the world but if your Mid cannot produce a build up play and get the ball to him then he won't be able to be effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Larin isn't the problem. Yes I get what your saying, but the kid doesn't have a chance because we cannot deliver him a ball. You can have the best forward in the world but if your Mid cannot produce a build up play and get the ball to him then he won't be able to be effective Agreed. I also believe that if we were to replace Larin with Occean, things would be just as bad because we would still have just as much trouble delivering the ball to Occean. Haber is a little different because we are better at aerial crosses but besides that, Haber is less creative and has more trouble dealing with the last defender with the ball on the ground than Larin or Occean does. Overall, I'd pick Larin at home or in San Pedro Sula. He's also not as bothered by the heat and humidity, playing in Orlando instead of England or Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 As much as I like how Haber has gone on from his much maligned performance as a CB at the WYC 07, to me he's just a late game, situational player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I want occean at least called up into the wcq roster and then go from there. Let occean and larin compete in training. Give the one who looks better a start in the first game. If he doesnt produce let the other guy start. We need options up front. Call them both up. Let the most in form in training start first game. Sub the other in around 70 mins. Re evaluate from there. Larin is a stud but for every beast game he plays he also produces duds like the gold cup and like against tfc last night. He is going to be a beast for us in the future but right now he is too young and inconsistent. We cant have that in a must win/ tie game in san pedro sula. Need to have options off the bench. Im also worried about larins mental game in mex pan and hon as just a yr a go he was playing for sigma in ontario. Thats a lot to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 for me first game at home vs honduras BOTH ON THE FIELD .... and a tight midfield of osorio hutchinson johnson and de guzman or teibert if Julian is out injured. at the back a solid right back, edgar jakovic and de jong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightback Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Looks like Larin is so highly thought of, Canada's rank has gone to 29th! http://www.goal.com/en-ca/news/4200/fifa/2015/08/06/14210282/argentina-remains-atop-fifa-world-rankings-canada-up-to-no?ICID=HP_TS_2 The caption is: Argentina remains atop FIFA world rankings; Canada up to No. 29 Hopefully goal.com hasn't fixed this before you view so you can get a laugh. Actually the text has us at 101 (up 2!), it's USA at 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Larin is the future and he is a lock for the squad, but I'm slowly coming around to the idea of Occean starting in WCQ. His hold up play is better, he's been there before, and he's is hot right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 As much as I like how Haber has gone on from his much maligned performance as a CB at the WYC 07, to me he's just a late game, situational player. But still an important late game sub. He is a useful tool if we need to use the aerial game for a late goal. Not a starter but should keep his position over other strikers that do not have his unique skills. If we keep three strikers on the roster then Larin as starter, Occean to push him for that spot and Haber as a strategic piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 We shouldn't be playing a lone striker in the first place. Akindele and Larin up front, or either paired with Ricketts would be a vast improvement on what we saw in the gold cup. We don't have any forward talented enough to hold up the ball on their own, we need two options for service from the midfield, and they need to be able to play off of each other and collect rebounds. The lone striker is not something we can pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 We shouldn't be playing a lone striker in the first place. Akindele and Larin up front, or either paired with Ricketts would be a vast improvement on what we saw in the gold cup. We don't have any forward talented enough to hold up the ball on their own, we need two options for service from the midfield, and they need to be able to play off of each other and collect rebounds. The lone striker is not something we can pull off. Please explain how Canada can play with two strikers, who they will be and how it will tactically work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 We shouldn't be playing a lone striker in the first place... for service from the midfield,. The lone striker is not something we can pull off. To be fair, Hutchinson and Johnson didn't play in our games against Dominica and didn't play in the Gold Cup. With both Hutchinson and Johnson healthy, Larin should get proper support as a lone striker. It could work if they are both healthy. The Floro strategy of a lone striker could then look much more intelligent because we would have a proper midfield than can hold the ball and pass creatively moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Larin is most definitely not used to the pressure. The Gold Cup is a JOKE compared to the pressure cooker that is WCQ. Inexperienced Canadian players NEVER produce in WCQ (against non-minnows). As good as Larin is, I'm concerned he will mentally shit himself. Our entire World Cup rides on that first Honduras home game. It's too soon for Larin. He'll only have been a pro for 8, 9 months in Nov. I think Larin has a chance to be not just good, but great. It's games like that that separate the good players from the great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Please explain how Canada can play with two strikers, who they will be and how it will tactically work. i will play something like this as the starting eleven BORJAN OR STAMATOUPOULOS D.HENRY EDGAR JAKOVIC DE JONG TEIBERT/OSORIO STRAITH JOHNSON HUTCHINSON OCCEAN LARIN thats a very strong 11 i cant see someone with a better team with DE GUZMAN FOR JOHNSON and OSORIO, TISSOT AND BEKKER PLUS HABER AND RICKETTS FOR DEPTH AND HAINAULT YOU JUST NEED YOUR BEST 20 PLAYERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 i will play something like this as the starting eleven BORJAN OR STAMATOUPOULOS D.HENRY EDGAR JAKOVIC DE JONG TEIBERT/OSORIO STRAITH JOHNSON HUTCHINSON OCCEAN LARIN thats a very strong 11 i cant see someone with a better team with DE GUZMAN FOR JOHNSON and OSORIO, TISSOT AND BEKKER PLUS HABER AND RICKETTS FOR DEPTH AND HAINAULT YOU JUST NEED YOUR BEST 20 PLAYERS I would be open to trying something like that against Belize, anything to try and generate some offence. I agree, we have to put out our most talented roster, even if it doesn't fit the system or roles, and see what happens. Hockey Canada went through something similar in the 90s where they were building teams based on roles and eventually they realized you have to put the best players out and let them dictate the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Sub off johnson for de guz but keep straith on for 90 mins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I would be open to trying something like that against Belize, anything to try and generate some offence. I agree, we have to put out our most talented roster, even if it doesn't fit the system or roles, and see what happens. Hockey Canada went through something similar in the 90s where they were building teams based on roles and eventually they realized you have to put the best players out and let them dictate the system. Ppl still complain that the world jr team is picked based on roles and not best players availae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Ppl still complain that the world jr team is picked based on roles and not best players availae. Maybe, but compared to 20 yrs. ago it's night and day the way the team is selected and the amount of talent at the bottom end of the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradMack Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Our roster would pick itself if we had a manager who paid attention to literally anything but his camps... but I mean, I'm not a coach so I clearly don't know a thing.... Also Bekker is better than Osorio and Teibert... Also I'm drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Our roster would pick itself if we had a manager who paid attention to literally anything but his camps... but I mean, I'm not a coach so I clearly don't know a thing.... Also Bekker is better than Osorio and Teibert... Also I'm drunk. Has Bekker even made the bench for Montreal since the trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Has Bekker even made the bench for Montreal since the trade? Read the last line and then read the second last line again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradMack Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Has Bekker even made the bench for Montreal since the trade? Sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I knew he was being sarcastic. I was actually wondering if he's made the bench at all for the Impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I knew he was being sarcastic. I was actually wondering if he's made the bench at all for the Impact. No he has not made the bench yet. He did kick the ball around with the subs at halftime last night and is training with the first team but no bench appearances yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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