jordan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Transfer is complete, Penarol received around 500k USD I Edited June 27, 2018 by jordan Zem, johnyb, BenFisk'sBiggestFan and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, jordan said: Transfer is complete, Penarol received around 500k USD I Good move...very good move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 500K is a steal. Bertuzzi44, Brethers8, Keegan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, jpg75 said: 500K is a steal. or we greatly overthink his value.....or some other crap. whatever good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boominbooty Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Interesting that transfermarkt has the transfer at £1.16m. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/transfers/spieler/221038/transfer_id/2115634 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 5 hours ago, jpg75 said: 500K is a steal. They might have a decent sell on percentage too jpg75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Boominbooty said: Interesting that transfermarkt has the transfer at £1.16m. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/transfers/spieler/221038/transfer_id/2115634 If it was a loan, maybe Transfermarkt builds the salary cost into the value, not sure. Or other costs, just as signing bonus, etc. Though it could be financial "management". You don't say the full value to not have to pay tax on it. I am not trying to be prejudiced, but this sort of stuff is common, until maybe 10-15 years ago in Spain it happened habitually, only now are things tighter in terms of good financial practices. Though why would transfermarkt defy the official price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Fenix would have been paid a cut outside of that 500k aswell Edited June 28, 2018 by jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakmur Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 10:48 AM, apbsmith said: I personally, only catch about 8-10 games a year when I go down to Florida for a month on the latino channels. In my opinion, the defending is actually much stronger in compared to MLS and the game is played at a much faster pace, with less "space" and time on the ball. However, my sample size is likely not as big as yours. Willing to hear your take on the league as a whole. I'd agree with your impressions of the league, except the defending part. But basically, the thing is I dont like comparing leagues very much, i always feel it falls into simplistic conclusions about the overall strenght. Like back to our defenders; you couldnt just transpose all the Liga MX defenders in MLS and expect them to perform the same, the style is different, strenghts are different. I think it was in this topic where I mentionned how LigaMX had been going downhill in the last 10 years while MLS has been rising exponetially in quality. One thing I pointed out was the corruption issues plaguing the league to a point where it affects it's quality. For example, they're now eliminating relegation while at the same time having teams in the same division owned by the same interests (which goes against FIFA rules, btw). But for me in this case, it all comes down to what I'd like Cavallini to get better at, put to the test, develop, etc.. It's great that he's a starter in a decent league and I agree with those who think it could help our concacaf competitions, but eventually I'd like him to go up against bigger and stronger defenders, in a less offensive set up, more consistently. You'll see more of that in MLS, or in SA, imo, or obviously in europe. apbsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I think there are a number of things better in LIGA MX such as passing, technical skill, speed of the game but I would not say the defending is better. The defending is actually pretty poor in comparison to the offensive skills displayed in the league which makes it an exciting league to watch but not really one in which a complete style of game is displayed. It is overall a better league than MLS but the gap is closing. Still would prefer Cavallini to stay in the better league or transfer up so unless there is a good move upwards he should stay in Mexico. CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE, matty, Obinna and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakmur Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Grizzly said: I think there are a number of things better in LIGA MX such as passing, technical skill, speed of the game but I would not say the defending is better. The defending is actually pretty poor in comparison to the offensive skills displayed in the league which makes it an exciting league to watch but not really one in which a complete style of game is displayed. It is overall a better league than MLS but the gap is closing. Still would prefer Cavallini to stay in the better league or transfer up so unless there is a good move upwards he should stay in Mexico. Being he's a striker, wouldnt you like him to go against better defenders though? In Mexico they call him a bull, he's bigger and stronger than most players there, it gives him a clear advantage. Would he have the same success againts a hermetic style with bigger and stronger players on the pitch? We wont know as long as he's in LigaMX, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) I have to butt in here and say that Liga MX defending is better than MLS. You don’t have to watch much CCL to figure that out.. watching TFC’s run it wasn’t even close. Most MLS teams don’t prioritize defence with their budget and while they may have 1/2 good defenders they never have a complete backline (case in point Toronto - we have maybe 2 defenders that would play in Mexico). You get a ton of average defenders coming here and “starring”. MLS defending has improved without a doubt but also lags behind MX. Edited June 29, 2018 by Keegan Free kick, nolando and apbsmith 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakmur Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Keegan said: I have to butt in here and say that Liga MX defending is better than MLS. You don’t have to watch much CCL to figure that out.. watching TFC’s run it wasn’t even close. Most MLS teams don’t prioritize defence with their budget and while they may have 1/2 good defenders they never have a complete backline (case in point Toronto - we have maybe 2 defenders that would play in Mexico). You get a ton of average defenders coming here and “starring”. MLS defending has improved without a doubt but also lags behind MX. Which team in Mexico has that complete backline you speak of? Personally, I'd probaly take SKC's defensive set up before any LigaMX team. Btw, about the CCL samples... you know that even all the pundits in Mexico admit themselves that they have a real advantage over MLS because they're right in the middle of their season while MLS is starting? I'd be curious to see how Liga MX teams would fare if CCL elimination rounds were at the beginning of august. Edited June 29, 2018 by Shakmur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Shakmur said: Which team in Mexico has that complete backline you speak of? Personally, I'd probaly take SKC's defensive set up before any LigaMX team. Btw, about the CCL samples... you know that even all the pundits in Mexico admit themselves that they have a real advantage over MLS because they're right in the middle of their season while MLS is starting? I'd be curious to see how Liga MX teams would fare if CCL elimination rounds were at the beginning of august. Tigres for one.. no MLS backline is close. The fact is that any Liga MX regular could walk onto an MLS roster but not every MLS regular could walk onto a liga MX roster. Just look at the dozens of names that transfer between leagues for evidence of that. Edited June 29, 2018 by Keegan jordan, Obinna, romurra and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just a reminder that 538 publishes club power rankings based on estimated club player transfer value and their ELO/xG based rankings. Correctly identified TFC as one of the best teams in CONCACAF before their big run in CCL this year (they've since fallen a ton due to league form) and which is way better than any half-ass small sample size hot take about league quality: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/global-club-soccer-rankings/ Currently: 139. Monterey 157. Tigres 165. Toluca 166. Santos Laguna 178. Club America 185. Cruz Azul 213. Tijuana 220. Nexaca 227. NYRB 229. Atlanta 253. Pachuca 262. NYCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakmur Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Rumours are that Rayados are interested in Cavallini. This article published four days ago by Telemundo, speaks of how Puebla are about to activate their transfer option on Cavallini (from Peñarol) and could then potentially sell Cavallini to Monterrey. He'd be battling with Funes Mori for the starting spot. Healthy competition. And I wouldnt mind the move to a higher profile club. http://www.telemundodeportes.com/liga-mx/lucas-cavallini-del-puebla-en-la-mira-del-monterrey On 6/29/2018 at 11:48 AM, Keegan said: Tigres for one.. no MLS backline is close. Really? With old Juninho still your man on the backline? Even after watching the CCL? . Dub Narcotic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Shakmur said: Rumours are that Rayados are interested in Cavallini. This article published four days ago by Telemundo, speaks of how Puebla are about to activate their transfer option on Cavallini (from Peñarol) and could then potentially sell Cavallini to Monterrey. He'd be battling with Funes Mori for the starting spot. Healthy competition. And I wouldnt mind the move to a higher profile club. http://www.telemundodeportes.com/liga-mx/lucas-cavallini-del-puebla-en-la-mira-del-monterrey Really? With old Juninho still your man on the backline? Even after watching the CCL? . Puebla bought him out last month Edited July 28, 2018 by jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakmur Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jordan said: Puebla bought him out two months ago "Puebla tiene una opción de compra por el nacido en Toronto, Canadá, la cual hará válida al Peñarol de Uruguay, club propietario de la carta de Cavallini, para a su vez buscar venderlo al equipo del Cerro de la Silla, en caso de presentar una buena oferta por parte de los regios." Roughly: "Puebla hold an option on the Canadian, which they will validate with Peñarol, owner of Cavallini's rights, to then sell him if they receive a good offer from Monterrey." Edited July 28, 2018 by Shakmur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shakmur said: "Puebla tiene una opción de compra por el nacido en Toronto, Canadá, la cual hará válida al Peñarol de Uruguay, club propietario de la carta de Cavallini, para a su vez buscar venderlo al equipo del Cerro de la Silla, en caso de presentar una buena oferta por parte de los regios." Roughly: "Puebla hold an option on the Canadian, which they will validate with Peñarol, owner of Cavallini's rights, to then sell him if they receive a good offer from Monterrey." https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lucas-cavallini/profil/spieler/221038 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakmur Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, jordan said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lucas-cavallini/profil/spieler/221038 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Shakmur said: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 11 minutes ago, jordan said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lucas-cavallini/profil/spieler/221038 Just noticed that they have Alphonso Davies listed at a mkt value of 720k I guess they are not quick making updates. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/international-rumour-mill/detail/forum/343 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, Shakmur said: Really? With old Juninho still your man on the backline? Even after watching the CCL? No doubt, name me an mls team he wouldn’t start on. That just further proves my point as he’s the weakest link there. As for Cavallini a move to Monterrey would be nice, if he plays. Otherwise it would be a really poor choice to move somewhere and kill your time when you’re just becoming prolific in a good league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Free kick said: Just noticed that they have Alphonso Davies listed at a mkt value of 720k I guess they are not quick making updates. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/international-rumour-mill/detail/forum/343 Sorry quoted the wrong one Edited July 28, 2018 by jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Hasn't scored yet since the Liga MX season has started. Puebla in general are looking kind of bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Vince193 said: Hasn't scored yet since the Liga MX season has started. Puebla in general are looking kind of bleh. 4 Starts up top where he’s gone the full 90’ (360 minutes total) and 0 goals in the Apertura It’s not super alarming, he scored 13 in 25 games which is a ratio of 0.52 Of course he has pressure to perform but Puebla are in the lower end of teams in Liga MX and Cavallini needs help too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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