InglewoodJack Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I think everyone knows what team we are. We have the two best players in the conference, a few other very good players and a big drop off with our depth. We’re good enough to beat any team in concacaf on any given day but there are better teams than us as a whole. We’re improving as a team and this is our strongest team yet. No clue why this needs to be rehashed every three weeks, at this point it’s got to be a degradation fetish or something to keep talking about how much better other teams are than us. TOcanadafan, h coach, Markoaleks and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrR Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: We have the two best players in the conference, Says who? Thank you for highlighting exactly what this thread is addressing. A statement like that is exactly the same as the CSA proclaiming that the CMNT are "The Kings of CONCACAF." Subjective at best. Perhaps if CONCACAF established an award similar to that of France Football's Ballon d'Or for players from CONCACAF, then such consensus would be far more credibility, no? Just like the Ballon d'Or award, a similar CONCACAF Golden Ball award could be awarded to a CONCACAF player based on his performances for domestic or foreign club, as well as those achieved for his national team. I wonder if sports writers and journalists, representing every country in CONCACAF, would agree with your selections for the two best players in CONCACAF for the past season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, MrR said: Says who? Thank you for highlighting exactly what this thread is addressing. A statement like that is exactly the same as the CSA proclaiming that the CMNT are "The Kings of CONCACAF." Subjective at best. Perhaps if CONCACAF established an award similar to that of France Football's Ballon d'Or for players from CONCACAF, then such consensus would be far more credibility, no? Just like the Ballon d'Or award, a similar CONCACAF Golden Ball award could be awarded to a CONCACAF player based on his performances for domestic or foreign club, as well as those achieved for his national team. I wonder if sports writers and journalists, representing every country in CONCACAF, would agree with your selections for the two best players in CONCACAF for the past season? You typed a lot of words here brother. Too many for you to not have even mentioned a single concacaf player better than our best. costarg, jdcyantsis, Bigandy and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Better to ignore MrR. Our newest troll eramosat, gator, Bigandy and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullback Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 9 hours ago, MrR said: 30-06-1957 Mexico vs Canada 3-0 Estadio Olimpico 04-07-1957 Mexico vs Canada 2-0 Estadio Olimpico 05-09-1972 Mexico vs Canada 2-1 Estadio Azteca 27-10-1976 Mexico vs Canada 0-0 Estadio Nemesio Diez 22-10-1977 Mexico vs Canada 3-1 Estadio Universitario 16-11-1980 Mexico vs Canada 1-1 Estadio Azteca 06-12-1983 Mexico vs Canada 5-0 Estadio Revolucion 10-05-1986 Mexico vs Canada 3-0 Estadio Azul 06-10-1987 Mexico vs Canada 4-0 Estadio Nemesio Diez 25-04-1994 Mexico vs Canada 4-0 Estadio Azteca 18-07-1993 Mexico vs Canada 8-0 Estadio Azteca 02-03-1997 Mexico vs Canada 4-0 Estadio Azteca 15-08-2000 Mexico vs Canada 2-0 Estadio Azteca 10-09-2008 Mexico vs Canada 2-1 Estadio Victor Manuel Reyna 29-03-2016 Mexico vs Canada 2-0 Estadio Azteca 07-10-2021 Mexico vs Canada 1-1 Estadio Azteca Games played - 16 Games won - 0 Games tied - 3 Games lost - 13 Goal for - 5 Goals against - 46 Why would that have any relevance to our current team? I’m not convinced this isn’t an attempt at a troll thread to get reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, narduch said: Better to ignore MrR. Our newest troll No, I’m fully under the impression the guy who’s spamming the forum with 60 year old match results is being extremely genuine and is here for productive debate Corazon, Canuckia, Borjans Sweatpants and 9 others 7 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 9 hours ago, MrR said: To even consider entertaining the thought of being the Kings of CONCACAF shouldn't we at the very least first win a game in the Estadio Azteca? Or anywhere else in Mexico for that matter? In the 66 years since we played our first match down there, we are still winless in Mexico. When is the next time Canada's going to play at the Azteca? Likely 2028 at the earliest because neither team has to qualify for the next World Cup and Mexico doesn't even play at home unless they are forced to (just like Canada, really). So are you going to stay on your bullshit for at least another 5 years? Bigandy and gator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrR Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, RS said: When is the next time Canada's going to play at the Azteca? Likely 2028 at the earliest because neither team has to qualify for the next World Cup and Mexico doesn't even play at home unless they are forced to (just like Canada, really). So are you going to stay on your bullshit for at least another 5 years? Getting back on topic, "are we over-rating ourselves?" What do you think? Do you agree with the CSA's proclamation that we are the "Kings of CONCACAF?" Or do you agree with most who have posted on this thread that this is not the case? Edited July 15, 2023 by MrR Fullback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) I overate us because it's better than the alternative I identify as the King of Concacaf and I expect Mexico and the US to recognize me as such Mexico are the Court Jesters for sure. US can be the Man of Arms. They'll like that Edited July 15, 2023 by SpursFlu red card and Obinna 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 narduch and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eramosat Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 7 hours ago, narduch said: Better to ignore MrR. Our newest troll this from a poster who, judging from both his prodigious post count and the fact that I notice him react generously to innumerable posts, seems to read everything with a grain of optimism, and general bonhomie? ok I am convinced. fun while it lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, eramosat said: this from a poster who, judging from both his prodigious post count and the fact that I notice him react generously to innumerable posts, seems to read everything with a grain of optimism, and general bonhomie? ok I am convinced. fun while it lasted. I'm more pessimistic than you will believe. MrR is trolling us hard and it's working. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phresh Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, eramosat said: this from a poster who, judging from both his prodigious post count and the fact that I notice him react generously to innumerable posts, seems to read everything with a grain of optimism, and general bonhomie? ok I am convinced. fun while it lasted. And this coming from a guy who refers to one of our players as a platinum blondie. I get you twitter types have a hard-on for negativity but I’d at least expect you to have a little common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, phresh said: And this coming from a guy who refers to one of our players as a platinum blondie. I get you twitter types have a hard-on for negativity but I’d at least expect you to have a little common sense This from a guy who... I don't have anything actually. It just seemed like this was meant to continue. Obinna, Canuckia and MtlMario 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Redpunkfiddle said: This from a guy who... I don't have anything actually. It just seemed like this was meant to continue. This from a guy who starts posts and then realizes he has nothing to say. Redpunkfiddle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrR Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, InglewoodJack said: You typed a lot of words here brother. Too many for you to not have even mentioned a single concacaf player better than our best. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume the "We have the two best players in the conference" refers to Alphonso Davies and Jonathan David. I agree with the choice of Davies, as being one of the top 2 players from CONCACAF. However, I rate Mexico's Santiago Gimenez much higher than David. Gimenez is a year younger. He has won more silverware than David, a total to which he could add the Gold Cup later today. In addition, if he doesn't get transferred from Feyenoord this summer, he will be competing in the group phase of the UEFA Champions League. He's a powerful striker who scores at a rate of just a shade under a goal every 2 matches. And best of all his transfer price at 25M Euros is a bargain compared to the 60M euros asking price for David. Edited July 16, 2023 by MrR obrook88, Ruffian, Bigandy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 hours ago, MrR said: Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume the "We have the two best players in the conference" refers to Alphonso Davies and Jonathan David. I agree with the choice of Davies, as being one of the top 2 players from CONCACAF. However, I rate Mexico's Santiago Gimenez much higher than David. Gimenez is a year younger. He has won more silverware than David, a total to which he could add the Gold Cup later today. In addition, if he doesn't get transferred from Feyenoord this summer, he will be competing in the group phase of the UEFA Champions League. He's a powerful striker who scores at a rate of just a shade under a goal every 2 matches. And best of all his transfer price at 25M Euros is a bargain compared to the 60M euros asking price for David. David had more goals (and more goals per game) in a better league last year. Also won Ligue 1 recently. Since when does costing less mean he’s better? In that case, Terran Campbell must be better than both because he costs way less than both. Bigandy and Fresh Prince of MTL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I don't know about the rest of you guys but I place myself somewhere between a sloth and a couch potato. You think that's too high? Corazon, Ivan, Cadeau and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 hours ago, MrR said: Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume the "We have the two best players in the conference" refers to Alphonso Davies and Jonathan David. I agree with the choice of Davies, as being one of the top 2 players from CONCACAF. However, I rate Mexico's Santiago Gimenez much higher than David. Gimenez is a year younger. He has won more silverware than David, a total to which he could add the Gold Cup later today. In addition, if he doesn't get transferred from Feyenoord this summer, he will be competing in the group phase of the UEFA Champions League. He's a powerful striker who scores at a rate of just a shade under a goal every 2 matches. And best of all his transfer price at 25M Euros is a bargain compared to the 60M euros asking price for David. Santiago Gimenez?! Okay this guy is a troll. Do you also rate Diego Lainez over Alphonso Davies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrR Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, archer21 said: David had more goals (and more goals per game) in a better league last year. Also won Ligue 1 recently. Since when does costing less mean he’s better? In that case, Terran Campbell must be better than both because he costs way less than both. Inglewood Jack asked for my opinion, which I gave. Obviously, you disagree with my opinion. Fair enough. To your first point, 10 of David's goals 24 goals in Ligue 1 came from the penalty spot. All 15 goals scored by Gimenez in the Eredivisie came from open play. He doesn't take penalties for Feyenoord. Ligue 1 and the Eredivisie are ranked equally, and Gimenez's team won the Dutch title tis year, and thus he will be playing in the group phase of the Champions League this upcoming season. As to the price-tag, since 25M is less than 60M, Gimenez is a better bargain, as more clubs looking for a striker with tighter budgets, like Manchester United or Bayern Munich, will be able to afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrR Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Santiago Gimenez?! Okay this guy is a troll. Do you also rate Diego Lainez over Alphonso Davies? Am I not allowed to have my opinion on this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, MrR said: Am I not allowed to have my opinion on this board? My opinion is that Lucas Cavallini is better than Santiago Gimenez. Way better international numbers - it’s not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 We are being trolled by Robert again costarg and Alex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, narduch said: We are being trolled by Robert again Where is @longlugan when you need him? 😄 narduch, gator and MtlMario 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 55 minutes ago, MrR said: Am I not allowed to have my opinion on this board? Of course, most definitely, but then we are also allowed to have an opinion about your opinion. costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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