P-O Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, PegCityCam said: Interesting...Could Hoilett not slot in for where you have Piette/Hutch? I'm not sure Hoilett has the positioning nor the ability to get the ball back. What is your take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 5 hours ago, P-O said: I am aware I might be thrown sticks and rocks for sharing this opinion, but it has been on my mind for a while watching all our CMS play recently. I also have been trying to figure how we can use our strengh as a nation to be effective, especially versus Belgium & Croatia when we will play counter. We desperately need a runner in Central Midfield, and Osorio has been good for us in the CONCACAF, but he lacks pace. Eustachio is the controler, Hutch/Pietter are destroyer and we need someone that can run. I believe this tactic would be our best formation but also the best use of our players for this World Cup. Our back 3 flanked with Adekudge & Laryea to provide witdh, speed & they have the fitness + defensive quality to sit tight and low. Our midfield would have Piette as a #6, Eustachio as a roaming playmaker & Davies that could run & open space for David / Larin. I find that I interesting. I mentioned on the MAK thread that we are lacking physicality in midfield. Davies has the pace obviously and though he isn't asked to do it a lot, I have seen him compete well in the air. Whether you sacrifice an world-class wide player because we have some other very good ones and are lacking in the centre of the park, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 During the 2 WCQ games in Edmonton vs CR and Mexico, Davies cut into the middle a lot and tried to do too much dribbling often turning the ball over. He did not have a good performance. Perhaps it was due to him playing at "home"? With his speed you want him either wide where he has space or up front with David where he played vs USA at BMO. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 5 hours ago, PegCityCam said: Interesting...Could Hoilett not slot in for where you have Piette/Hutch? He is the guy I think gets moved into a CAM position in the event we are thin. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, P-O said: I'm not sure Hoilett has the positioning nor the ability to get the ball back. What is your take? I have to agree. Hoilett has never been a duel winning monster, he has never played the role of disruptor/destroyer, nor the role of a deep-lying distributor. Couple that with the fact that at this stage of his career he does not have an Energizer bunny engine, and I'd say box-to-box midfield or a number 6 is a bad fit. CAM, maybe. Edited September 12, 2022 by GasPed P-O 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, P-O said: I'm not sure Hoilett has the positioning nor the ability to get the ball back. What is your take? I'm quite high on Hoilett as he seems to create all sorts of havoc whenever he gets on. He also strikes me as a coach's player, very intelligent with a crazy high work rate. I honestly think he could fit in most anywhere and would, at the very least, not be a detriment in that particular role. Here's what his new gaffer had to say after his stint at right wing back of all places: https://wokingham.today/hes-the-ultimate-professional-reading-fc-boss-ince-praises-versatile-junior-hoilett/ edit: I'm just beginning to learn some of the more nuanced facets to the game though so massive grain of salt yadda yadda Edited September 12, 2022 by PegCityCam Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 13 hours ago, PegCityCam said: I'm quite high on Hoilett as he seems to create all sorts of havoc whenever he gets on. He also strikes me as a coach's player, very intelligent with a crazy high work rate. I honestly think he could fit in most anywhere and would, at the very least, not be a detriment in that particular role. Here's what his new gaffer had to say after his stint at right wing back of all places: https://wokingham.today/hes-the-ultimate-professional-reading-fc-boss-ince-praises-versatile-junior-hoilett/ edit: I'm just beginning to learn some of the more nuanced facets to the game though so massive grain of salt yadda yadda I agree that Hoillet has a high soccer intelligence and could play pretty well anywhere except CB. He knows how to dictate the game in the position he plays, he can pause, he's very focussed. He's wily. I am sure he could handle a midfield role, with support of course. PegCityCam, CanadaFan123, Corazon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Good grief he looks incredible. johnyb, Kadenge, SF and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, PegCityCam said: Good grief he looks incredible. At the same time I'm sad it seems he's not allowed to go into the box when Bayern are in the final third. He just sort of stands there and waits for Bayern to lose possession. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Goal-saving interception. Is being held back for sure, probably wisely. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D.I.D.A.S. Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Listening to the match on Spanish radio at work. Commentators mentioned that Ousmane Dembele and Raphinha have switched wings, so it's now Phonzie vs Dembele. Can anyone watching a stream confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, A.D.I.D.A.S. said: Listening to the match on Spanish radio at work. Commentators mentioned that Ousmane Dembele and Raphinha have switched wings, so it's now Phonzie vs Dembele. Can anyone watching a stream confirm? Yup...though nothing much happening on that side atm Edited September 13, 2022 by PegCityCam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, A.D.I.D.A.S. said: Listening to the match on Spanish radio at work. Commentators mentioned that Ousmane Dembele and Raphinha have switched wings, so it's now Phonzie vs Dembele. Can anyone watching a stream confirm? Yes. Dembele working very wide left most of the time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, A.D.I.D.A.S. said: Listening to the match on Spanish radio at work. Commentators mentioned that Ousmane Dembele and Raphinha have switched wings, so it's now Phonzie vs Dembele. Can anyone watching a stream confirm? Just absolutely bodied him and won the ball...then a minute later took it off him again. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Davies with a cheeky handshake with Xavi. Wonder if Davies would fancy moving to Barca at some point. Obinna, johnyb and PegCityCam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Davies was spectacular first 20, like the match. High tempo, maybe Barça with the edge. As said Dembele switches to Davies's side m 30 and he holds back more. Commits a clear penalty chopping down Dembele m. 42 or so, can't believe Var ignored it. Lots of empty seats in Munich. johnyb, aredding77 and PegCityCam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, frmr said: Davies with a cheeky handshake with Xavi. Wonder if Davies would fancy moving to Barca at some point. Saw that too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, VinceA said: At the same time I'm sad it seems he's not allowed to go into the box when Bayern are in the final third. He just sort of stands there and waits for Bayern to lose possession. Can't wait until the world sees how he's utilized with Canada. Teams going to start offering 100mil+ narduch and Alex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, A.D.I.D.A.S. said: Listening to the match on Spanish radio at work. Commentators mentioned that Ousmane Dembele and Raphinha have switched wings, so it's now Phonzie vs Dembele. Can anyone watching a stream confirm? Davies had Raphinha in his pocket. I imagine that's why he switched sides with Dembele Obinna, PegCityCam and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Davies was spectacular first 20, like the match. High tempo, maybe Barça with the edge. As said Dembele switches to Davies's side m 30 and he holds back more. Commits a clear penalty chopping down Dembele m. 42 or so, can't believe Var ignored it. Lots of empty seats in Munich. So what's it feel like to cheer for a Bayern legend? El Hombre, RS and Obinna 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Awful marking in the box there by Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Awful marking in the box there by Barcelona. We have a completely new defence. You could see certain Barça players were already tiring m 55. We've also had plenty of chances. Edited September 13, 2022 by Unnamed Trialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scullion44 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Thet tackle first half in the box by Davies was a blatant pen. Very lucky VAR were asleep Edited September 13, 2022 by scullion44 johnyb and Unnamed Trialist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) They have taken off the brakes and Dembele gets a huge chance. Edited September 13, 2022 by WestHamCanadianinOxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Davies smelling blood and going back to the attack, some amazing stuff. You'd figure he'd stay home up 2, but not his style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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