Unnamed Trialist Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Two other things that are important if you start to have more pro clubs in an area, instead of dividing up territorially for reason of how fans are supposed to behave One, a kid coming up, at say 18, should be able to still live at home while speculating on his soccer future. These kids who travel across the world, that is very hard, apart from basically meaning that any semi-pro income is used to cover expenses. Second, you have inspirations up close, which does not mean the whole "my buddy was signed by TFC" business, as that is the highest aspiration. I mean simply that even from a modest club you may see a teammate getting a call into a CPL residency if any are ever set up. The other day my son told me about two guys he played with this time last year in Barcelona: one has left u-19 and has signed for a 4th tier club, he's a striker; another has left a top u-19 program to play in another club that has promoted to the highest division of Spanish u-19. My kid's last club was not even amongst the top 40 in metropolitan Barcelona overall, it was very modest. But they had one u-19 team that played well and the kids were seen. They key is that kids compare themselves, reasonably: not hey, I am good enough for TFC, but hey, I could probably make my way into a lower tier semi-pro situation and keep my curve going. And all without having to leave home yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Two other things that are important if you start to have more pro clubs in an area, instead of dividing up territorially for reason of how fans are supposed to behave One, a kid coming up, at say 18, should be able to still live at home while speculating on his soccer future. These kids who travel across the world, that is very hard, apart from basically meaning that any semi-pro income is used to cover expenses. Second, you have inspirations up close, which does not mean the whole "my buddy was signed by TFC" business, as that is the highest aspiration. I mean simply that even from a modest club you may see a teammate getting a call into a CPL residency if any are ever set up. The other day my son told me about two guys he played with this time last year in Barcelona: one has left u-19 and has signed for a 4th tier club, he's a striker; another has left a top u-19 program to play in another club that has promoted to the highest division of Spanish u-19. My kid's last club was not even amongst the top 40 in metropolitan Barcelona overall, it was very modest. But they had one u-19 team that played well and the kids were seen. They key is that kids compare themselves, reasonably: not hey, I am good enough for TFC, but hey, I could probably make my way into a lower tier semi-pro situation and keep my curve going. And all without having to leave home yet. Bang on. I've hammered on how CPL will change the reward side of risk/reward discussions for players, but the reduction of the risk barrier for pursuing a pro career is just as important. Even for players who have stay "domestic," think of Davies leaving Edmonton as a teenager or players choosing easier academic programs compatible with an NCAA career, will see a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 20 hours ago, Ansem said: Does anyone have any info on this team? How was it pulled together? Is this the first game they have played together? Or did they take a local team and just give them York 9 jerseys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kent said: Does anyone have any info on this team? How was it pulled together? Is this the first game they have played together? Or did they take a local team and just give them York 9 jerseys? From what I've read it was a team put together by the York regional soccer association, but York9 has gotten the full buy in from YRSA to cooperate on development (even sharing office space). Obviously York9 didn't develop these kids but if they are going to act as the top level senior team for YRSA I think they will have a fantastic pool from which they are signing players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Complete Homer said: From what I've read it was a team put together by the York regional soccer association, but York9 has gotten the full buy in from YRSA to cooperate on development (even sharing office space). Obviously York9 didn't develop these kids but if they are going to act as the top level senior team for YRSA I think they will have a fantastic pool from which they are signing players. Yeah one can only applaud them for teaming up with YRSA and get them on board. Like I said, regardless of their off-field success, they're in a hotbed of soccer and should be able to get a lot of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I worry for their attendance at home games due to their low level of deposits About 200 atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 11:01 PM, Ansem said: Well according to TFC they played Juventus and won the cup .. https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2017/08/21/u-17s-beat-juventus-capture-international-youth-soccer-cup anyone know what happened? How are youth teams playing juventus and no one cares? This can’t be the true Juve as I said before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, Keegan said: Well according to TFC they played Juventus and won the cup .. https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2017/08/21/u-17s-beat-juventus-capture-international-youth-soccer-cup anyone know what happened? How are youth teams playing juventus and no one cares? This can’t be the true Juve as I said before.. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, RS said: Why not? Well one would assume that they must have their own season starting and better things to do than play here at this time. Also was it not mentioned that this was a satellite club? Lets be honest if youre juventus you go for the $ or the experience and neither of those things are on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 53 minutes ago, Keegan said: Well according to TFC they played Juventus and won the cup .. https://www.torontofc.ca/post/2017/08/21/u-17s-beat-juventus-capture-international-youth-soccer-cup anyone know what happened? How are youth teams playing juventus and no one cares? This can’t be the true Juve as I said before.. This was last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Keegan said: Well one would assume that they must have their own season starting and better things to do than play here at this time. Also was it not mentioned that this was a satellite club? Lets be honest if youre juventus you go for the $ or the experience and neither of those things are on offer. I can't find the schedules for the U17s, but the Juve Primavera side (U19) didn't start their most recent season until Sept. 8 (their online schedule hasn't even updated for this season): http://www.juventus.com/en/matches/fixtures-and-results/fixtures-and-results-juventus-primavera.php I would assume that the U17s play a similar season. It's really not that big a deal for youth sides from big Euro clubs to visit North America. It happens pretty often nowadays, mostly with little fanfare as they don't exactly draw big crowds. EDIT: Just noticed the post above mine. That lends even more credence to it being the real Juve U17 side as they've already played in this tournament. Here's a more recent posting. TFC will play tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, deschamp86 said: This was last year My mistake then does anyone know if we can watch the game or highlights tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Blackjack15 said: I worry for their attendance at home games due to their low level of deposits About 200 atm I'm curious as to whether the YRSA season seats, of which they plan to fill a whole grandstand with, count towards this number. Either pretty much no one from yrsa were interested, which seems unlikely given the effort they are apparently putting into that group, or they aren't included in the number we are seeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcub14 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Kent said: Does anyone have any info on this team? How was it pulled together? Is this the first game they have played together? Or did they take a local team and just give them York 9 jerseys? I was curious myself as well when I heard about the tournament. YRSA gave the breakdown last night on twitter. Pretty cool, Vaughan, Aurora, Woodbridge, Markham, and Kleinburg. Just need a bit of Richmond Hill and Newmarket lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcub14 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Everything we've seen about this club points to a really close relationship with Vaughan SC by the way, a whole bunch of different little things over the months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 8 hours ago, ironcub14 said: I was curious myself as well when I heard about the tournament. YRSA gave the breakdown last night on twitter. Pretty cool, Vaughan, Aurora, Woodbridge, Markham, and Kleinburg. Just need a bit of Richmond Hill and Newmarket lol. They lost 2-1 to TFC tonight. Incredible result for a select team that I'm sure barely trained together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 How sad is it that I got a surprisingly happy feeling when reading that York 9 and YRSC are apparently working closely together, and thus, might actually want to help each other succeed and grow the game together. Surely this will never catch on!! (tongue planted firmly in cheek) This feels like one of the first really encouraging signs I've seen from York 9 in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowsweatygorilla Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I came across the full game recording while doing research for my Football Manager mod Just realized it's only focused on Justin Yarde... which makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just reading Twitter and people are pitching Inebriatti for York 9. Please no .......also this. Is this the first sponsorship we've seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, matty said: Just reading Twitter and people are pitching Inebriatti for York 9. Please no .......also this. Is this the first sponsorship we've seen? Alexander Keiths at Wanderers has been there IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Blackdude said: Alexander Keiths at Wanderers has been there IIRC. Is that formal? I don't recall seeing any form of statement regarding it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Why no Inebriati for York 9? Makes sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, masster said: Why no Inebriati for York 9? Makes sense to me Presumably for the same reasons as no inebriatti for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, masster said: Why no Inebriati for York 9? Makes sense to me Me as well, definitely advocate for a hardcore support for a club that needs it. Heck, the league needs it and those guys travel home and away.. they would love CPL. Logically these types will do a lot more for growing your name and support than local youth clubs. Let’s be real, there are teams that are big clubs simply because of their fans.. but none that are big clubs because they pack the stands with youths. One end of the stadium can be Inebriatti and the other end for all the youth soccer players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, masster said: Why no Inebriati for York 9? Makes sense to me Just my two cents, but I really don't think that this is the kind of fan that the CPL should be courting. They've been banned by TFC, so why should we accept them? https://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/tfc-bans-inebriatti-fan-group-over-fiery-display-in-ottawa-1.4796028 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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