matty Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Just now, BringBackTheBlizzard said: On merit or because that was part of the agreement when he signed? They'd be better off with a guy like Jason Bent that has been consistently rated through all the management and coaching changes at BMO Field. I agree Bent would be a better pick but oh well. Just now, lazlo_80 said: Fair point but they've lead teams, they have credibility in their market. Brennan? Not so much. This team just has to get their crap together on every level. Agree to all this too. Brennan is really going to have to prove haters wrong fast because of his various roles otherwise he looks like an egomaniac. They best be spending on players. 9 minutes ago, Ansem said: I think Wheeldon in Calgary has earned it I would say I think he's earned a shot like everyone else who has been hired even Brennen. SIDE NOTE: Happy everyone is Canadian so far and kind of shocked. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: On merit or because that was part of the agreement when he signed? They'd be better off with a guy like Jason Bent that has been consistently rated through all the management and coaching changes at BMO Field. I cant see Bent going to CPL right away. Being an MLS assistant (second time round) is nothing to sneeze at, and I think there might be a little 2 way loyalty there with TFC. Personally I'd like to see any guy with a job already (DosSantos, Bent, Koch) stay there and give some new blood a shot. But I am very surprised at the Brennan hate on here. If he is a part (i am assuming tiny minority) owner and one of the more knowledgable soccer minds there, why not let him coach too? Better than him second guessing and jumping all over someone else they might bring eh?? ironcub14 and Bbeto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HfxCeltic Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, Big_M said: “....I want to play attractive, attack-minded football...” This is a such a filler cop-out clichéd statement. Had anyone ever heard a new coach say otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I noticed 'CI' in the group of white shirts York 9 presenters. That is obviously Carmine Isacco who is currently coach of Vaughan Azzurri in League 1 Ontario plus 'master coach' of the York University men's and women's teams. http://yorkulions.ca/coaches.aspx?rc=815&path=msoccer I e-mailed them where the conference was going to be three days ago but received no reply and I had not idea it was held in Markham. I don't know who the reporters were except new Can Prem media hire Kurt Lawson was mentioned in the questions. I wasn't sure if it was Laura Armstrong from the Star (blonde lady in the white pants)--isn't there a baseball game tonight? The Star is down to half a reporter for soccer. How much coverage does the team think they'll be getting? Brennan has coaching experience with Toronto FC Academy http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports11/11csl019.htm before his time with Aurora FC of L1O (which some Voyageurs on here said was only part time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Guys, I don't see why everyone thinks this will be a bad hire. He learned from the best while he was assistant GM at TFC johnyb, lazlo_80, ironcub14 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bison44 said: ... I am very surprised at the Brennan hate on here. If he is a part (i am assuming tiny minority) owner and one of the more knowledgable soccer minds there, why not let him coach too? Better than him second guessing and jumping all over someone else they might bring eh?? Some of the people posting in that vein are probably too young to remember when he was at Nottingham Forest and Norwich and view him as some washed up has been at a struggling L1O team. Thought it was obvious he was the coach in waiting from the moment his involvement there was confirmed, because having a high profile ex-CMNT player as the coach to create an obvious point of difference from the MLS approach in the GTA was the only reason to hire him and give him an ownership stake. Bbeto, ironcub14, ted and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Sébastien said: Official, Brennan is head coach. http://york9fc.canpl.ca/video/jimmy-brennan-aims-to-unite-york-region-with-attractive-brand-of-soccer Is it just me, or is having one of the owners of your club being named coach sounds extremely junior league? Brennan just wants his owner salary and his manager salary. I wonder if they'll end up with enough season ticket holders to even cover his cost, let alone anyone else's. OFFC has season tickets for $400, same as York's proposed number, though the Fury also has discounted tickets for $250 closer to the goal line as well as a youth rate (I'd be shocked if York doesn't have a youth rate though it's kind of odd there hasn't been one mentioned so far). OFFC also gets you 19 games right now (vs CPL's 16) and a better experience than the York Lions stadium - not to mention a proven product. We'll have to see if they start re-evaluating their price once the volume doesn't show up, because it doesn't exactly seem like it's going to be a hot ticket item. m-g-williams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Some of the people posting in that vein are probably too young to remember when he was at Nottingham Forest and Norwich and view him as some washed up has been at a struggling L1O team. Thought it was obvious he was the coach in waiting from the moment his involvement there was confirmed, because having a high profile ex-CMNT player as the coach to create an obvious point of difference from the MLS approach in the GTA was the only reason to hire him and give him an ownership stake. no i think most people are right to be worried about the optics of a player-owner. i'm with you in that i don't think he isn't fit but i do think there is an optics issue to his roles. 39 minutes ago, Bison44 said: ... I am very surprised at the Brennan hate on here. If he is a part (i am assuming tiny minority) owner and one of the more knowledgable soccer minds there, why not let him coach too? Better than him second guessing and jumping all over someone else they might bring eh?? I don't think it's hate as much as worry for said optics or that he pulls a Gretzky and doesn't exit the role if he sucks at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Question: Does anyone know if York 9 did like Halifax, Winnipeg and Edmonton and invited kids with local clubs to the announcement, or was it just for media and management? If the latter, that seems like a wasted opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, m-g-williams said: Question: Does anyone know if York 9 did like Halifax, Winnipeg and Edmonton and invited kids with local clubs to the announcement, or was it just for media and management? If the latter, that seems like a wasted opportunity. they invited 50 young players i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I’m wondering will Brennan tell his players they should play for the love of the game like he told his Aurora L 1 players when he was the so called coach of the Aurora L 1 team, while he was making over 100 000 a year as the Aurora youth soccer club Cheif Executive , it’s funny Aurora had all that money to pay Brennan all that money but had no money for their L 1 team lol, soccer in Canada eh lol and we wonder why we have we have not made the Hex for so long never mind the World Cup and why with all the registered youth soccer players we have not produced more players , hopefully things are changing but just think of all the wasted years and waisted money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcub14 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I think, if you look at it from a casual fan's perspective, that Brennan does actually make sense, notwithstanding whatever's happened at Aurora, which no casual fans are gonna know about anyways. I was passing by a TV an hour ago and saw Brennan being announced as York 9 manager show up as one of the repeating headlines on CP24, along with other Toronto sports news and the big local news here today lol. Still, from a mainstream POV, Brennan does make more sense than Bent or Isacco, we all know his playing accomplishments here, and casual CPL fans will as well. And I can't imagine him having enough capital to be more than a small minority owner in the York Sports and Entertainment thing. There definitely will be some conflict of interest later on when he does have to go as manager eventually, but I think the name recognition on something casual like a CP24 headline and other similar things like that is unfortunately the type of publicity that York needs at the moment, for the tradeoff of the conflicts that may definitely arise later on. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Being a head coach/owner is not that uncommon — plenty of historical examples in pro sports and lots of successful ones recently in junior hockey. And in some cases in junior they've pulled back and hired other people to be their head coach. I understand that it looks like a lazy/easy hire, but Brennan was an assistant coach in MLS. That's more than some CPL head coaches will be able to say. And I think in hiring Isacco as his assistant (and I think Isacco would have been a reasonable head coaching hire on his own) makes this far more palatable. It wouldn't surprise me if Isacco has a little more on his plate than most assistant coaches normally do. cheers, matthew Bbeto and gator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 https://juneof86.com/2018/07/27/brennan-ready-to-take-on-coaching-role/ Glad to seen Isacco is part of the staff. Would have preferred to see him as Head Coach though. Should give Jimmy first dibs on players on Vaughan Azzurri and York U johnyb and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 @1996I have no ideas if the accusations on Brennan in League 1 are true or not but if they are why haven’t you gone to the media with your proof and have them expose how horrible you allege he is rather then just repeat it over and over on here? Without proof other than your word it is pretty slanderous in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Guess that tells us you are not an inside source. No I'm definitely not an inside source, my apologies for coming off that way. But I am very surprised with the move to be honest, I was thinking it was going to be Isacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I think Brennan is a good choice. He’s a household name in Toronto soccer circles and one of the better players Canada has produced. I worry about York9. They’re in the most competitive and important market in Canada and they need to be a successful market for the CPL. It’s still very early but so far they haven’t made a big splash yet. There’s still lots of time to turn that around. The other new markets should all be slam dunk successes because they don’t have the same level of competition for viewing dollars as Toronto. Having Brennan spearhead the team was a good choice from the get go and now they’re doubling down. I really hope this works out. MtlMario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowsweatygorilla Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Wow, what a horrible hire. While I don't regret getting membership, it becoming harder and harder to be enthusiastic about this project. The only saving grace is the coaching team put together alongside Brennan. Issaco really should be the head coach with his extensive knowledge of local talents and his proven success at the L1O and USports levels. But who the heck is Ryan Brennan? Did Jim hire his brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, 1996 said: I’m wondering will Brennan tell his players they should play for the love of the game like he told his Aurora L 1 players when he was the so called coach of the Aurora L 1 team, while he was making over 100 000 a year as the Aurora youth soccer club Cheif Executive , it’s funny Aurora had all that money to pay Brennan all that money but had no money for their L 1 team lol, soccer in Canada eh lol and we wonder why we have we have not made the Hex for so long never mind the World Cup and why with all the registered youth soccer players we have not produced more players , hopefully things are changing but just think of all the wasted years and waisted money. We've seen this pattern in Canada too much, not just with Brennan. Many youth clubs have relatively high paid technical directors, when the overall level is just mediocre. Sorry to say, but those clubs often charge a hell of a lot to kids in the academies. And you have these unnatural gaps between someone's salary and the dedication the rest have to put into it. Don't like it either. A person who has this contradictory profile is Thomas Neindorf with his Pacific Soccer Institute, just seeing what they charge and what they could honestly promise their kids make you think there is something entirely unethical going on. In that line, for the same reasons, I would not like to see Niendorf at Pacific FC, though the coincidence in the name is worrisome, frankly. nolando, red card and 1996 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: ... I would not like to see Niendorf at Pacific FC, though the coincidence in the name is worrisome, frankly. Pretty sure it is a total coincidence. The name came up from one of us at the session we had with the owners with Peter Schaad et al from the league "identity team" at the Bard and Banker. I did not see him at the launch event nor has there been even the smallest hint they are considering him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, ted said: Pretty sure it is a total coincidence. The name came up from one of us at the session we had with the owners with Peter Schaad et al from the league "identity team" at the Bard and Banker. I did not see him at the launch event nor has there been even the smallest hint they are considering him. Look, I think he is totally competent as a coach. What bugs me is these guys who are making a considerable amount off preying on kids and their families, who pay huge sums to get supposedly European coaching. In academies who play no competition and do not test their effectivity, since that would prove that the price being paid is not justified. And it is totally bogus, it is tantamount to a fraud. So for me, he is being fraudulent to make a living, and that should be isolated and called out. I don't want people like that in the CPL, there are plenty of competent guys out there who have taken a higher road and have honoured the game fully. ted and Bbeto 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC_Hali Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Is this pic edited or have they changed the seats at the York U track stadium from red to green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenFisk'sBiggestFan Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, FC_Hali said: Is this pic edited or have they changed the seats at the York U track stadium from red to green? It looks edited. The bars are green at the top and metal at the bottom. It looks pretty cool though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 hours ago, matty said: no i think most people are right to be worried about the optics of a player-owner. i'm with you in that i don't think he isn't fit but i do think there is an optics issue to his roles. I don't think it's hate as much as worry for said optics or that he pulls a Gretzky and doesn't exit the role if he sucks at it. I think the optics are that no one can actually tell if he's fit/the best man for the job BECAUSE he's also the owner. There's a conflict there that didn't need to exist. And for those saying "it happens all the time in Junior hockey", that's sort of the point here. The league is trying to avoid looking "junior" in anything, and a move like this doesn't help that perception. deschamp86 and Gopherbashi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 10 hours ago, matty said: Brennen is owner-exec-coach. Seeing this spelled out and it dawned on me. I think I know who York 9’s first player signing will be deschamp86, matty, maccaliam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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