CPL General

[shermanator]

Regarding Jay Ball's interview last week on Al Classico, official details of the games will be out next week.

And I'm sure some poster will see the details and say that the CPL will fail as a result.

Edited September 5, 2018 by shermanator

[Shortdutchcanuck]

Fun video on the 1989 CSL season.  Really hope TSN picks up at least a game of the week type broadcast for CanPL.

 

Check out @4totera’s Tweet:

 

[Zem]

The plot thickens; looks like the CSA might save the day for Ottawa after all.

 

[lazlo_80]

14 hours ago, Shortdutchcanuck said:

Just out of curiosity what has changed for you?  Is it the salary cap rumours?  Slow sales in a couple markets?  Possibility of 7 teams instead of 8?

It is early still.  Of course there were going to be questions, and hiccups.  Of course this league wasn't going to fit everyone's expectations exactly.

It still has the potential to fill a massive gap in this country, and to provide a ridiculous amount of fun for those of us who have waited decades for a team to support.

For those worried about its initial quality, I think it will improve steadily and noticeably in the first 10 years.  And I am hopeful that much of that improvement, unlike in MLS, will come from the development of young Canadian domestics within the league.

Happy to answer.

My expectations were:

Top half USL quality

1.5 million cap.

8 teams.

Not sure it's gonna be those anymore. Very slightly concerned it may become glorified PDL level/lower USL academy team type level. 

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

47 minutes ago, Zem said:

The plot thickens; looks like the CSA might save the day for Ottawa after all...

Will be interesting to see if that stands up to a legal challenge if the Fury decide to contest this.

[shamrock]

42 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

Will be interesting to see if that stands up to a legal challenge if the Fury decide to contest this.

Why wouldn't they have the right? 

I just don't think the same goes for "dispersing" their roster. 

[Blackjack15]

It would be shame to start the league with 7 teams 

Now that we know for sure That Mark Goudie from the OSEG Group confirmed the Fury will play in USL next season 

I wish we could know what’s the issue is? 

Do (OFFC) not believe in the new league?

They don’t want to give up their right to their players by holding a dispersion draft?

The Entry Fee (1M)

Salary Cap might be higher than USL and they feel financially not ready 

Edited September 5, 2018 by Thomas

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Think it adds credence to the reddit suff about the salary cap being viewed as too low, because they are spending almost twice what was being proposed and would not be able to keep their roster together.

[KW519]

Does CPL scramble to find a 8th club(assuming Ottawa was their 8th target), or do they launch with 7 teams?

[Kent]

They initially were saying they could launch with as few as 6. I think I'd rather they launch with 7 than to rush a team out there that isn't ready (i.e. have to play in a temporary stadium first year, not able to properly market the team, etc.).

[El Diego]

I certainly don't think they should rush anything to force it to be 8 teams but I do have a few concerns:

1. Sounds like there was no Plan B to the Fury, which is pretty busy league; and

2. A 7 team league is pretty bush league, optics wise (and don't kid yourself, optics are important for the CPL);

3. Why do the Fury believe that the USL is a better option than the CPL? I'm under no illusions that the CPL will be an amazing league right away, but the USL is not a high bar to pass

Edited September 5, 2018 by El Diego
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[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Think they launch with 7 as it is very late in the day now for another completely new team to be joining and it would be a high risk on turning into a fiasco given the possible markets in stadium terms (St John's would probably be the best to try if they go for it and judging from rumours we have been hearing may actually be the plan B, if there is one). If I were them, I would persuade Pacific FC to hold off for a season to 2020 by announcing face saving stadium related reasons related to the hydro pole issue and go with 6 so they avoid scheduling problems of having to play on weeknights to make up for all the byes for one of the team each weekend and so the relatively thin available talent pool can be targeted more effectively in playing standards terms.

Edited September 5, 2018 by BringBackTheBlizzard

[Daryn27]

On 8/29/2018 at 7:46 PM, SoccerCoach said:

 

 

So if they aren’t the 8th team why is the CPL keeping who the 8th team so quiet. You think they would announce it so they can start collecting memberships. That’s why I’m not to sure if that’s true especially with the fact they said there will be 8 teams at the trials with 8 coaches.

[Shortdutchcanuck]

So it's to be Goderich FC after all then?

Have to wonder if this is where Bill Manning swoops in with an offer CanPL can't refuse: we'll put a team in Moncton or wherever you want, stocked with players too good for USL 3 but not able to make the leap to TFC.  Call it Atlantic FC or Maritime United or whatever your heart desires. And we'll use our TFC marketing machine to hype the new league.

Which is the lesser of 2 evils I wonder, kicking off with 7 after promising 8 or allowing a farm team?

Personally I'd go with 7 and hopefully expand to 10 year 2 (possibly with the Fury still coming over in year 2 or 3).

If they do have a potential 8th team in their back pocket (Quebec, Surrey, or Moncton maybe) in a way this would be win-win: 8 new teams heavily featuring Canadian players and 1 USL team that already heavily features Canadian players.

[Gian-Luca]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

They initially were saying they could launch with as few as 6. I think I'd rather they launch with 7 than to rush a team out there that isn't ready (i.e. have to play in a temporary stadium first year, not able to properly market the team, etc.).

I agree, though 7 is not ideal for scheduling purposes at all. I mean neither is 9 or 11 but 7 is worse.

Hopefully they have seen this coming for a while and have been working behind the scenes on a plan B for an 8th team which has not been announced yet.

[Rintaran]

6 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said:

I agree, though 7 is not ideal for scheduling purposes at all. I mean neither is 9 or 11 but 7 is worse.

Hopefully they have seen this coming for a while and have been working behind the scenes on a plan B for an 8th team which has not been announced yet.

Actually, now would be a really great time for them to announce the 8th team, or at least announce a countdown timer. The longer they wait to react, the less prepared they look in regards to losing Ottawa.

[lazlo_80]

3 hours ago, lazlo_80 said:

Happy to answer.

My expectations were:

Top half USL quality

1.5 million cap.

8 teams.

Not sure it's gonna be those anymore. Very slightly concerned it may become glorified PDL level/lower USL academy team type level. 

Yeah, so it appears my expectations were way off...Just like I worried about...Read the whole thread to get an idea of what the latest is.

https://twitter.com/FuryFanatic/status/1037427311258333184

[Cheeta]

If Ottawa was supposed to be the 8th team, and I expect 98% of everybody following this launch was expecting they would be, this unpleasant surprise should have been handled waaaay better.  

Joint statement by both organizations all sad but hopeful and full of mutual respect kind of crap.  

But nope, now it all just looks bad.  Not having 7 teams launching the league.  That's kind of a whatever.  It's how a target franchise was able to say no thanks this far into the launch.  I mean what else are they just making up as they go along?

[Gopherbashi]

18 minutes ago, Rintaran said:

Actually, now would be a really great time for them to announce the 8th team, or at least announce a countdown timer. The longer they wait to react, the less prepared they look in regards to losing Ottawa.

That assumes Ottawa wasn't supposed to be the 8th team.  If they were, and Ottawa just pulled the rug out from under CPL's feet (which is how it appears at this moment), they have no one to announce.

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Think that stream of tweets basically confirms the 500k salary cap thing from Reddit. When he talks about players of league one quality or lower I wonder if he means L1O or League One in England?

[KW519]

Dafuq.....I knew the quality wouldn't be the greatest at the start, and that a salary cap was likely to be implemented, but for CPL to tell clubs and players who and where they can can sign looks and smells like something MLS would do. "Brampton born (insert name) forced to play for HFX as they have rights to any player born in peel."

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

...for minimum wage level salary with no accommodation and utilities provided.

[lazlo_80]

This is not a good look for the league.

[Rintaran]

I've a lot of respect for FuryFanatic, and he's usually fairly reliable.

I hope that much of this thread of posts this time around are horribly off-base and being fed falsely from his buddies at the Fury to cushion the news that they won't be in CPL in 2019.

[Gopherbashi]

9 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

Think that stream of tweets basically confirms the 500k salary cap thing from Reddit. When he talks about players of league one quality or lower I wonder if he means L1O or League One in England?

I would assume L1O from the context.