CPL Stadium Thread

[Keegan]

19 minutes ago, matty said:

without doubt. i'm hopeful with the nations league and canada hosting 3 games at home we see the csa be bold and do a tours of the games. 2019-20 that would be massive if you're playing the us or mexico. great build for 2026 too.

Now that would make too much sense for them to do.  

[DrummingInMySleep]

Yeah, definitely not Langford as the MNT does too well at BC Place. I could see the WNT coming through maybe, especially when they get Westhills up to 8k capacity next year. 

[matty]

2 hours ago, DrummingInMySleep said:

Yeah, definitely not Langford as the MNT does too well at BC Place. I could see the WNT coming through maybe, especially when they get Westhills up to 8k capacity next year. 

I feel the same for Hamilton sadly with regards to the MNT but too am hopeful cities like Hamilton, Victoria and future CPL cities will host both more WNT games and maybe some of the CONCACAF youth tournaments. Hamilton was a pretty good stadium for Pan Am and, with CPL's youth focus, a Canada hosted CONCACAF U20 Championship done in CPL cities could be a real success....unless CONCACAF opts to keep everything at IMG forever

Edited March 4, 2019 by matty

[Sébastien]

10 hours ago, matty said:

So question...which current CPL stadium becomes the first to host a CanMNT game? Imma say Spruce Meadows or Wanderers Grounds.

Lansdowne.

*ducks*

[Vince193]

A lot of people are saying that York 9 will have football lines all season on their pitch but isn't U Sports in offseason during the summer? Why would there still be lines?

[Alex D]

33 minutes ago, Vince193 said:

A lot of people are saying that York 9 will have football lines all season on their pitch but isn't U Sports in offseason during the summer? Why would there still be lines?

Because people assume the worst

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Because the fieldturf has permanent markings.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/York+University/@43.7764861,-79.5122802,161m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x882b2e3ad55152e9:0xaa60d0eb5064c0ae!8m2!3d43.7730637!4d-79.5009308

Edited March 4, 2019 by BringBackTheBlizzard

[Cheeta]

Hideous if it does.  Less hideous if they are painted over for soccer.

Still, how does a gridiron playing surface qualify a venue for CPL?   Have it in my head it was very clear this wouldn't be accepted.

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

They appear to have thought they could play on grass at York Lions stadium (2015 Pan Am games athletics stadium) as that was the originally announced venue, so this is probably plan B.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/York+University/@43.7751158,-79.5068302,159m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x882b2e3ad55152e9:0xaa60d0eb5064c0ae!8m2!3d43.7730637!4d-79.5009308

The problem at York Lions stadium is that the long jump pits inside the track make the field too narrow.

Edited March 4, 2019 by BringBackTheBlizzard

[ESG Shawn]

14 hours ago, matty said:

So question...which current CPL stadium becomes the first to host a CanMNT game? Imma say Spruce Meadows or Wanderers Grounds.

Spruce Meadows would be the perfect ground to host a CanMNT match against a minnow, like French Guiana, in the future.

Grass pitch, direct flights to Europe, and the ability to sell out (hopefully) vs a smaller opponent all are positives for Spruce Meadows. 

[rob.notenboom]

9 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

They appear to have thought they could play on grass at York Lions stadium (2015 Pan Am games athletics stadium) as that was the originally announced venue, so this is probably plan B.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/York+University/@43.7751158,-79.5068302,159m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x882b2e3ad55152e9:0xaa60d0eb5064c0ae!8m2!3d43.7730637!4d-79.5009308

The problem at York Lions stadium is that the long jump pits inside the track make the field too narrow.

I talked to both Preben Ganzhorn and Jimmy Brennan in Sept & Oct of last year and York Lions Stadium was to undergo significant changes. Without getting into specifics, the narrowness was not going to be an issue and that knowledge and decision is likely a year old by now ... certainly nine months. 

Using Alumni Stadium temporarily was always the plan to accommodate the time it was going to take to do the necessary work on York Lions Stadium. Simply put, unless something else significant has occurred in the intervening few months, the construction timeline is likely extending beyond where it would be worth moving from one stadium to another mid season.  

[rob.notenboom]

9 minutes ago, ESG Shawn said:

Spruce Meadows would be the perfect ground to host a CanMNT match against a minnow, like French Guiana, in the future.

Grass pitch, direct flights to Europe, and the ability to sell out (hopefully) vs a smaller opponent all are positives for Spruce Meadows. 

This would be pretty amazing. 

[Grandbloke]

25 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

The problem at York Lions stadium is that the long jump pits inside the track make the field too narrow.

They could get rid of the long jump pits and hold such competitions elsewhere on campus. For the few hundred people interested in watching long jump and other such competitions, it would suffice to set up temporary bleachers.

Edited March 4, 2019 by Grandbloke

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

Just now, Grandbloke said:

They could get rid of the long pits and hold such competitions elsewhere on campus. For the few hundred people interested in watching such competitions, it would suffice to set up temporary bleachers.

That's no doubt what the renovation is all about. Problem is they plan to put in turf for the York Lions U-Sports football team, so the grass will be gone.

4 minutes ago, rob.notenboom said:

I talked to both Preben Ganzhorn and Jimmy Brennan in Sept & Oct of last year and York Lions Stadium was to undergo significant changes. Without getting into specifics, the narrowness was not going to be an issue and that knowledge and decision is likely a year old by now ... certainly nine months.

How do you explain what happened with Frosinone?

On 2/28/2019 at 7:13 PM, 1996 said:

I didn’t realize the field was too narrow either and I guess nobody did until last year when at the last minute newly promoted Serie A team Frosinone on the day of their first exhibition game versus a League 1 Ontario team,  went to practise on the Pan Am stadium Field on the morning of their first game and saw that it was too narrow. The game that night was moved at the last minute to the OSA Center Field in Woodbridge. It looks like they have to extend the playing field over some of the running track so that may be what the delay is with playing at the Pan Am stadium is , hopefully they figure it out because done right that Pan Am stadium can be a nice little facility from the looks of it.

[rob.notenboom]

5 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

 

How do you explain what happened with Frosinone?

 

That Sept/Oct is after July. And that people shouldn’t assume. 

8 months though, not 9 ... my miscalculation. 

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

48 minutes ago, rob.notenboom said:

...Using Alumni Stadium temporarily was always the plan to accommodate the time it was going to take to do the necessary work on York Lions Stadium. Simply put, unless something else significant has occurred in the intervening few months, the construction timeline is likely extending beyond where it would be worth moving from one stadium to another mid season.  

From the franchise launch announcement:

http://canpl.ca/article/york-9-football-club-joins-canadian-premier-league

...The club is planning to start construction on a 12,000 to 15,000-seat stadium in the region within the next three years. For its inaugural seasons, York 9 FC will play out of York Lions Stadium (formerly Pan Am Stadium)...

There was no mention of Alumni Field initially.

 

[rob.notenboom]

22 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

From the franchise launch announcement:

http://canpl.ca/article/york-9-football-club-joins-canadian-premier-league

...The club is planning to start construction on a 12,000 to 15,000-seat stadium in the region within the next three years. For its inaugural seasons, York 9 FC will play out of York Lions Stadium (formerly Pan Am Stadium)...

There was no mention of Alumni Field initially.

 

Yes, I know. 

My original point was that, unless they’ve gone away from using York Lions Stadium entirely, the field width will not be an issue. 

[Ansem]

4 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

Because the fieldturf has permanent markings.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/York+University/@43.7764861,-79.5122802,161m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x882b2e3ad55152e9:0xaa60d0eb5064c0ae!8m2!3d43.7730637!4d-79.5009308

 

2 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

They appear to have thought they could play on grass at York Lions stadium (2015 Pan Am games athletics stadium) as that was the originally announced venue, so this is probably plan B.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/York+University/@43.7751158,-79.5068302,159m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x882b2e3ad55152e9:0xaa60d0eb5064c0ae!8m2!3d43.7730637!4d-79.5009308

The problem at York Lions stadium is that the long jump pits inside the track make the field too narrow.

York 9 had already addressed the "Football lines". They were asked again today and there's the answer

 

 As for the tracks, safe to assume that what we got from the renderings is what we'll get. It's not Quantum physics to accomplish...

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

How does that address the question? Saying they want something is not the same as guaranteeing it will actually happen. Good to see people are making it clear that they need to do something about this though. 

[Ansem]

2 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

How does that address the question? Saying they want something is not the same as guaranteeing it will actually happen. Good to see people are making it clear that they need to do something about this though. 

You're exaggerating the nitpicking man, give it up

[RS]

42 minutes ago, Ansem said:

You're exaggerating the nitpicking man, give it up

It's not nitpicking. There are permanent football lines at Alumni Field, and the only comment from the team is that they "want" a clean field for soccer.

That's great and all, but hardly confidence-inspiring stuff.

[Ansem]

17 minutes ago, RS said:

It's not nitpicking. There are permanent football lines at Alumni Field, and the only comment from the team is that they "want" a clean field for soccer.

That's great and all, but hardly confidence-inspiring stuff.

It is nitpicking. You're casting doubt on a clear answer from a member of the organization

I don't know what's vague about no football lines

[RS]

Just now, Ansem said:

It is nitpicking. You're casting doubt on a clear answer from a member of the organization

I don't know what's vague about no football lines

He didn't say "we will have no football lines." He said we don't "want" them. It's an intentionally vague answer.

If they pull it off, great. But that's about as clear a non-answer as someone can give.

[Ansem]

Just now, RS said:

He didn't say "we will have no football lines." He said we don't "want" them. It's an intentionally vague answer.

If they pull it off, great. But that's about as clear a non-answer as someone can give.

 

[Sébastien]

2 hours ago, RS said:

He didn't say "we will have no football lines." He said we don't "want" them. It's an intentionally vague answer.

If they pull it off, great. But that's about as clear a non-answer as someone can give.

Agreed.

The answer sounds way more like "We hope there won't be football lines" than "There won't be football lines."

Maybe someone should follow-up with the rep and see if they clarify. If they don't, that'll speak volume.