villus Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 The counter to this is what was written about JDG2 deciding not to play Canada on the Score blog "..the strident disconnect between professed “love of country” and the desire to play for Holland because “they regularly make World Cups” cannot be explained away, apologized for, reasoned with. It’s a disgrace. We’re not an outfit or a means to a starting XI, or a mere shirt, or flag. You can’t profess to be a proud Canadian and then use your national team colours as leverage. We’re Canada." Not really relevant to what I was saying. These fans are not being self serving, they are not trading up. We laud praise on Will Johnson, but he has lived much of his life in the United States, should we deem that he is being disrespectfull to the USA for saying that he is proud of Canada, or that he interacts with Canadian fans? Of course we should'nt Will is proud of his roots and represents Canada very well as an underdog country in many ways to the USA. I have lived in the USA for long periods, and you better damn well beleive that when the Canadian team comes through I would be out in full force cheering for Canada, because I identify 100% as a Canadian, those are my roots and I am proud to be a Canadian, I am not disrespecting the USA I am merely keeping true to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 It has nothing to do with opponents. I was at both games and the ratio to home and away support was the same, if not a better showing from Honduras. It has everything to do with what's going on with Toronto FC (fans feeling ripped off, terrible team, clueless front office, etc) and having to be in the loop to even know these games are going on. I guess that last part is the CSA's fault. I was at both games as well. Memory is a funny thing, but the Jamaican support was much, much better. I have great long term memory and I am positive the support for the Jamaican game, a game that was sold out, was a 60/40 split in favour of us. This game, which wasn't even sold out was like 85/15 for us, and that's being generous to the Honduran support. However, I do agree that TFC has left a bad taste in everyone's mouth and that counts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yeah the south end of the west stands was pretty much yellow that night and outside of 104 it was probably a 50/50 split on the east side. If you want to look it up, just search "Canada Jamaica 2008" on YT (unfortunately though they only have one clip and its not a fun one to watch) Watching the game on replay, and maybe we should take hint from Cuba and shorten the away anthems (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yeah the south end of the west stands was pretty much yellow that night and outside of 104 it was probably a 50/50 split on the east side. If you want to look it up, just search "Canada Jamaica 2008" on YT (unfortunately though they only have one clip and its not a fun one to watch) Watching the game on replay, and maybe we should take hint from Cuba and shorten the away anthems (again). Yeah, I have no idea how parkingatlamport can say the opposition support was better yesterday compared to the Jamaica game in 2008. It wasn't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigorio Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I haven't stumbled across any highlights yet (not that there were any)... but has anyone? I just want to see how we looked and sounded in the South end really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I haven't stumbled across any highlights yet (not that there were any)... but has anyone? I just want to see how we looked and sounded in the South end really Most extended highlights I have found are off a Honduras site: http://www.youtube.com/user/HONDUFUT If you understand some spanish, there is a fantastic rant by the announcer near the end after a Honduras messed up play. The team has nothing, it is nothing like the team that qualified last round, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJO Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 If i was on canada team i would score so many free kicks canada needs me i can curve the ball so hard Anyway this game puts a monkey in our chances of qualifying from this stage, need at least 1 win vs panama to have a good chance, I doubt they get that. The team created lots of chances and played well defensively, they need a Batistuta or ronaldo on their team to be clinical. Also practice free kicks for **** sakes, its not that hard a free kick in training is the same as a FK in a game. Canada should have won 3-1, 4-1 more importantly i saw first time in a long time that the players were really trying hard trying their best. I like it, maybe it's because of increased home support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Most extended highlights I have found are off a Honduras site: http://www.youtube.com/user/HONDUFUT If you understand some spanish, there is a fantastic rant by the announcer near the end after a Honduras messed up play. The team has nothing, it is nothing like the team that qualified last round, etc etc. Yes. I can undertstand a bit of spanish. Esto momentos nos tenemos nada.... Nada...... Esta la realita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Most extended highlights I have found are off a Honduras site: http://www.youtube.com/user/HONDUFUT If you understand some spanish, there is a fantastic rant by the announcer near the end after a Honduras messed up play. The team has nothing, it is nothing like the team that qualified last round, etc etc. I noticed he said "la noche triste a Toronto" towards the end. That made me chuckle. Thanks for posting this. I've been DYING to see highlights of the match since I was working yesterday. I felt McKenna and Edgar's frustrations watching those missed chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Stephen Brunt was on the radio discussing the game last night. The one interesting tidbit he threw in there was that he'd heard Simeon was not in shape and that's why he never started a game this summer. http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/2012/06/13/soccer_euro_2012_stephen_brunt_with_jeff_blair/?utm_source=Soccer%20Lineup%20RSS-Images&utm_medium=feed&utm_content=Brunt%20on%20de%20Guzman%2C%20Canada%20%26%20Euro%202012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Stephen Brunt was on the radio discussing the game last night. The one interesting tidbit he threw in there was that he'd heard Simeon was not in shape and that's why he never started a game this summer. http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/2012/06/13/soccer_euro_2012_stephen_brunt_with_jeff_blair/?utm_source=Soccer%20Lineup%20RSS-Images&utm_medium=feed&utm_content=Brunt%20on%20de%20Guzman%2C%20Canada%20%26%20Euro%202012 I heard that yesterday too. It is much more understandable that he has seen so little action this round if that is a real concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 At least we know he should be in shape come the fall. He's got a new manager to impress and needs to earn more playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm sorry but this is a bit ridiculous. This is a sport, just because someone cheers for Honduras does'nt mean that they don't respect Canada as a nation. It means that they may be proud of their heritage and don't want to feel like they have to assimilate completely and they show that by cheering for a poor country that does'nt have many things to be proud of, soccer being one of them. Blowing fans cheering for Honduras out of proportion is ridiculous. Sure it would be nice if they supported Canada as well, but this is sport and many immigrants or children of immigrants hold onto a sense of pride from where they came from and we should not extrapolate that to not appreciating Canada as a country. Canada is a free country, so if someone wants to cheer for their parents country, they can go right ahead and do so. However, if those Canadians cheering for Honduras tell a newly arrived Honduran-Canadian, who is a hell of alot more HONDURAN than they are, that he is a traitor for cheering for his new country then that tells me a lot about them. Also, a lot of what i write is not just the direct result of Tuesday night, but of listening to young, Canadian-born children of immigrants make stupid comments about Canada and how much better their parents country is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Anyways, i have yet to comment on the game itself. When i first saw the players lining up i realized Ledgerwood was playing RW, which pretty much said to me that Hart was more afraid to lose the game then he wanted to win it. You rarely qualify for a WC with that attitude. Overall i thought it was a very sloppy game between two teams that couldn't do much right offensively. Honduras are an absolute embarassment compared to where they were 2 years ago. It's amazing what a few retirements and out of form players can do to a team, not to mention losing the best coach they've had in the last 30 years. We were better than them, but we squandered way too many of our chances. That open header in injury time absolutely needs to go in the back of the net. Sigh. Well, we need 3 points at home against Panama now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Hey, when does Simpson return to training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Hey, when does Simpson return to training? Probably not till the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Hey, when does Simpson return to training? There's no definite timeline yet. 6-8 months I believe I heard? Let's put it this way...when was the last time you saw David Villa for Spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 http://22066.vws.magma.ca/reports12/12cana04.htm Here's the entire audio of Stephen Hart's post game press conference plus snippets of hallway interviews with Canadian team players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I haven't been closely reading the Hondo threads lately but after having seen the Honduras game (and the previous two games) I am more hopeful than I was a month ago. Yes, they are having a hard time finishing but that will come. More importantly I've seen a team cohesiveness that I haven't seen in a long time. This cycle of players has been mentally fragile but they've really seemed to have found some resolve. I really like Borjan, his positive attitude is infectious and I can't think of one player who is a liability in the starting eleven. We have some depth and the bench strength is good. Jazic and McKenna have never played better and we still have Jakovic and Kluka in reserve. Not trying to be a bandwagon jumper as I have roundly criticised them in the past but this is the best I've seen them in a long time. They look fitter too. The strange thing is the defeatist comments Hart and Dero seem to make before and after the matches. Maybe it's a bluff like JDG2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Sorry if I missed this, but does anyone have the entire Canada vs. Honduras match available to post? I live in the U.S. and haven't been able to re-watch the entire match, only the 2 mins of highlights on YouTube. This would be much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I haven't been closely reading the Hondo threads lately but after having seen the Honduras game (and the previous two games) I am more hopeful than I was a month ago. Yes, they are having a hard time finishing but that will come. More importantly I've seen a team cohesiveness that I haven't seen in a long time. This cycle of players has been mentally fragile but they've really seemed to have found some resolve. I really like Borjan, his positive attitude is infectious and I can't think of one player who is a liability in the starting eleven. We have some depth and the bench strength is good. Jazic and McKenna have never played better and we still have Jakovic and Kluka in reserve. Not trying to be a bandwagon jumper as I have roundly criticised them in the past but this is the best I've seen them in a long time. They look fitter too. The strange thing is the defeatist comments Hart and Dero seem to make before and after the matches. Maybe it's a bluff like JDG2 Don't sweat, it's still early on the bandwagon. We won't call anyone bandwagon jumpers until we actually make the world cup, if we do. And even then positivity should always be welcomed with more positivity. Otherwise, what is the point of it? Anyways, I think De Ro and hart's objective isn't to derail, but to make sure there is a down to earth attitude that instills a good work ethic, because they definitely still have a lot of work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Don't sweat, it's still early on the bandwagon. We won't call anyone bandwagon jumpers until we actually make the world cup, if we do. And even then positivity should always be welcomed with more positivity. Otherwise, what is the point of it? Anyways, I think De Ro and hart's objective isn't to derail, but to make sure there is a down to earth attitude that instills a good work ethic, because they definitely still have a lot of work to do. Definitely, Hart and DeRo know what's up having been around for a while. A downfall of our last cycle was our naivety imo, everyone kind of acted like the Gold Cup from the year before would translate into performances in WCQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I know this is very, very late, but I'm just re-watching this game for the first time since seeing it live. How the hell does Wilson Palacios stay on the pitch during this game? He should have been sent off for accumulation of yellows by at least the end of the first half. He lashes out at DeRo, has a very bad two footed challenge on Hutchinson and seems to be putting bad challenges in everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I may have missed it but is there a torrent for this and the cuba game?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I was so expecting to see this bumped by spam. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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