VinceA Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Apparently he will return to Valour later. I've said it before but if it similar to the Telfer deal in 2019 that makes the CPL look like a farm league which is not at all what they need to be seen as. Cheeta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 He earned it, hope he gets a start. Cheeta and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, VinceA said: Apparently he will return to Valour later. I've said it before but if it similar to the Telfer deal in 2019 that makes the CPL look like a farm league which is not at all what they need to be seen as. 100%. If it isn't a season long loan, and I really don't give a damn what troubles befall the parent club, there is zero reason these sorts of loans should be allowed by CPL HQ. What's more Valour FC themselves shouldn't be getting into these agreements. For the obvious reasons. He's be recalled to Montreal, Gale should tell him to stay there. Give the development time to somebody else's prospect under more agreeable terms to Valour. Good luck! Bison44 and Dominic94 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Cheeta said: 100%. If it isn't a season long loan, and I really don't give a damn what troubles befall the parent club, there is zero reason these sorts of loans should be allowed by CPL HQ. What's more Valour FC themselves shouldn't be getting into these agreements. For the obvious reasons. He's be recalled to Montreal, Gale should tell him to stay there. Give the development time to somebody else's prospect under more agreeable terms to Valour. Good luck! He’s a top prospect, and has been the best GK in the league and you want Valour to tell him to stay because he’s literally earned this shot ? How many players are seriously earning recall’s? Are you aware that there are loaned players in the league that can’t be recalled ? Last I checked MTL’s own goalie asked to be released, not something that was planned for and one isn’t able to play. There is nothing wrong with this unplanned situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 There has to be a clause in there about a recall, emergencies blah blah etc. Sucks for Valour, but they must have known it might be coming. It does kind of make it look like farm team, if guys are shuttling back and forth. Which is something I think we all wanted to avoid. Still its good for teams and MLS academy kids to see that there is another pathway to getting over that "hump" and getting the playing time needed to crack the first team. Good for him, I hope they use him...give him a start, although Breza looked ok. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 44 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: He’s a top prospect, and has been the best GK in the league and you want Valour to tell him to stay because he’s literally earned this shot ? How many players are seriously earning recall’s? Are you aware that there are loaned players in the league that can’t be recalled ? Last I checked MTL’s own goalie asked to be released, not something that was planned for and one isn’t able to play. There is nothing wrong with this unplanned situation. I honestly don't know where to begin. Too many different angles on why allowing a loaned player to be recalled mid-season is a horrible idea for the CPL to post a response that wouldn't be 5,000 words so I'm going to compress it as much as I possible can. And as much as this might sound emotional it's not meant to be. It's cold-hard-business. No one buying tickets to Valour matches cares what Montreal's goalkeeping problems are. No one buying ticket to see their home team take on Valour cares what Montreal's goalkeeping problems are. Everyone buying ticket to Valour matches cares that a player that's become an important integration in that team will be disruptively removed from that team not because of injury but because of contractual obligations. Contactual obligations which should have been entirely avoidable. CPL should care because J. Sirois is exactly the sort of player they're competing with MLS for. The sort of players who needs playing time and will take a pay cut to get it. To invest in themselves as it were. And to hopefully provide CPL with a financial return, as modest as it might be. Unless of course they don't have to. I mean why would a guy play for CPL dollars when he can just get the minutes he needs, but MLS can't offer, while collecting MLS wages that CPL can't offer? I'd bet 99% of the small community that is this forum would never have heard of J. Sirious if he hadn't logged 11 matches and 1,000 minutes with Valour. I'd also bet if J. Sirous hadn't used those 11 matches and 1,000 minutes with Valour to show his potential Montreal would be looking to the marketplace for solutions to their goalkeeping problems. Stay in Montreal. Set the precident. Just to try to get Valour better terms on the next loan deal/investment. Ridiculous situation. Absolutely ridiculous. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I say send Gale to Montreal, swing a dead cat around and he'll probably hit a decent goalie for us. Cheeta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 hours ago, VinceA said: Apparently he will return to Valour later. I've said it before but if it similar to the Telfer deal in 2019 that makes the CPL look like a farm league which is not at all what they need to be seen as. The parent club owns the player. Sirois is earning $71,167.00 this season. Clearly Valour isn’t paying that or they might have rights here. Welcome to world football. Valour benefitted from having a player for free and now his owner needs him. And clearly the player wants to move up a level too. Good for him, good for Valour too. Stryker911, Dominic94, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 ^ 100%. Not attacking Sirois in any way, shape or form. He's absolutely done his part to make this arrangement work. He's just the grunt getting sent from work site to work site. Still think he should just stay in Montreal. Am attacking the potential for a CPL team who are half way into the season losing one of their stand out players, one of the leagues stand out players, because of a telephone call from Montreal. Cant wait to see how they report that on canpl.ca or OneSoccer. Some very generous spin I'm sure. "He's earned the call up!" blah, blah, blah. Not a lot of "the league just got weaker" or "struggling Valour lose star keeper". I hope this turns into a happy accident. That SOMEHOW this sort of loan agreement being allowed is just an oversight and CPL HQ will immediately correct it. You see that? I just gave the league an graceful out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Bison44 said: I say send Gale to Montreal, swing a dead cat around and he'll probably hit a decent goalie for us. Sign the kid from Blainville. He looked good and guaranteed is making less than CPL wages. Yes this sucks, but it is the economic reality. For now. Once the league starts to sell some players on, gain some notoriety, sell some media rights, etc. then teams won’t need to lean on the loan as one possible tool for survival. It’s not the only tool though, even now. Valour uses it more than others. It was working and now it’s not, but it’s one situation. CPL isn’t going to completely remove access to one tool to raise the quality of play in its league, scuppering the long term goal to prevent short term setbacks. Teams have to deal with setbacks all the time for all manner of reasons. Yes it sucks, but move on. johnyb and ted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 He is the 2021 CPL GK of the year. costarg, MrsC, Cheeta and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phresh Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Coming on for the injured Pantemis. canuckgbp, narduch, johnyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Starts as expected and has made his first ever mls stop on a routine ball narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 He has just committed robbery of in the 15th Fresh Prince of MTL and K Edgar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Have this on a 2nd screen and he appears to be busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 He was beaten by Zardes but it was waived offside. So far he has been good. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Another big save Fresh Prince of MTL and K Edgar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 Nothing he could do on the goalie, Zouhir took too long to shot and Austin came back and scored a tap in on a tic tac play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastPros Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dominic94 said: Nothing he could do on the goalie, Zouhir took too long to shot and Austin came back and scored a tap in on a tic tac play Zouhir will get an earful for that one. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, PastPros said: Zouhir will get an earful for that one. It’s likely, he killed the chance. But look, he is young and this is a very young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Really great game imo. Unlucky on the goal. It had been coming unfortunately and he was left more and more exposed over the last 20 minutes. Definitely earned his starting spot. Dominic94, gator, Fresh Prince of MTL and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastPros Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: It’s likely, he killed the chance. But look, he is young and this is a very young team. The lack of depth was abundantly clear in the last 30mins - on the upside, lots of Canadians will get minutes this season. Shway, Dominic94, gator and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, PastPros said: The lack of depth was abundantly clear in the last 30mins - on the upside, lots of Canadians will get minutes this season. Offence is a little anemic, but it’s year one of the new cycle. Trading Torres hurts, Zouhir and co on the bench need time, in 3 years this code could be the union. We could use a difference maker up top, but the plan takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Dominic94 said: Offence is a little anemic, but it’s year one of the new cycle. Trading Torres hurts, Zouhir and co on the bench need time, in 3 years this code could be the union. We could use a difference maker up top, but the plan takes time. Agree, except for Torres. I think the young kids could replace him quicky with no real gap. I feel Torres was all flash and no photo Fresh Prince of MTL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just hung out to dry tonight, nothing he could do. An Observer and Jack1997 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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