BearcatSA Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 11:02 AM, canta15 said: He has far far from locked his starting position True, but it won't be Morgan taking that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 6 hours ago, BearcatSA said: True, but it won't be Morgan taking that spot. He was referring to Morrow having the spot. There’s no chance he’s being displaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 If you told me 6 months ago that Morgan would score vs Club America I'd have have asked you "What have you been smoking?" Obinna, deschamp86 and Grandbloke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 So... he's getting a call to be on Canada's bench, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ansem said: So... he's getting a call to be on Canada's bench, right? If Morgan or Adekugbe are injured then for sure but we don’t need 3 left backs otherwise. Nice run forward but that doesn’t make his game suddenly more complete than the other two. He’s good in build up, decent one v one but can’t dribble for his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I think wingback in that 352 is maybe his best position, he hardly put a foot wrong tonight and what a goal started by a perfectly weighted pass with his right foot, him and Osorio were immense on the left side tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, gator said: I think wingback in that 352 is maybe his best position, he hardly put a foot wrong tonight and what a goal started by a perfectly weighted pass with his right foot, him and Osorio were immense on the left side tonight! Let's face it, wingback is probably the best fit for almost all of our fullbacks. For whatever reason most of our guys are good going forward but are relatively weak(er) defenders. Edited April 4, 2018 by jpg75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Best performance of Morgan's career. He was immense. Grandbloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, jpg75 said: Let's face it, wingback is probably the best fit for almost all of our fullbacks. For whatever reason most of our guys are good going forward but are relatively weak(er) defenders. Perhaps we should try the 352? Morgan was very good defensively tonight as well in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, gator said: Perhaps we should try the 352? Morgan was very good defensively tonight as well in my opinion! The Issue is Hoilett can't play in that formation. He's not really suited to be a ten (I also don't see Canada using one) and he's not a good enough finisher to play as a FW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Vince193 said: The Issue is Hoilett can't play in that formation. He's not really suited to be a ten (I also don't see Canada using one) and he's not a good enough finisher to play as a FW. My bigger concern would be if we could put 3 proper CB's together for this formation, Hoilett can be quite good as a10, some of his best matches at QPR were there! jpg75 and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Morgan hasn't put a foot wrong since returning and seems to be getting better with each game. A great boost for the national team if he can maintain this form and contribute to grow. Northvansteve, Obinna, Club Linesman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Morgan completely shut down the much-vaunted wing play from Club America, had a great pass which was crucial to the second goal as well as the third goal even though he ended up scoring it. Arguably MOTM . The three fouls he was called for weren't even fouls but good tight defensive play. gator, Kadenge, Free kick and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Morgan had a terrific match tonight. Massive props! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroArrow Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 So if TFC starts having cap issues, do they let Morrow go and replace him with Morgan? Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, AvroArrow said: So if TFC starts having cap issues, do they let Morrow go and replace him with Morgan? Not a chance, Morrow will be right back in his starting spot when he's healthy, the club wouldn't have let Edwards go if they had any plans of that IMO! deschamp86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroArrow Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, gator said: Not a chance, Morrow will be right back in his starting spot when he's healthy, the club wouldn't have let Edwards go if they had any plans of that IMO! I'm not debating that Morgan should start over Morrow. My point is that in a salary cap league, there comes a time when you may have to replace player A with player B because that gives you the cap space to sign player C. Edited April 4, 2018 by AvroArrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradMack Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) I could see Morgan replacing Morrow in 2 years or whenever Morrow starts to slow down, he is 30 now and you can't afford to lose a step as a fullback in the TFC system. Morgan is 3.5 years younger and should be in his prime. If Ashtone can keep this level of play up he will be given an opportunity but that remains to be seen. I think outside of the 3 DPs, Greg Vanney will switch his lineup to give himself the best chance to win, he's pretty fair that way (outside of the weird Ben Spencer thing) and seems to trust most of his guys. In any case, we know he will not just be handed the position, they will sign another LB, even when Van der Weil was brought in he saw immediate competition in Auro brought in. Just a side note, it really seems like the level TFC has gotten to has caused everyone to grow as players. Osorio has improved a ton and it looks like Morgan has as well. I guess training every week with the quality in that squad has some clear benefits. Just wish we could see some of the other Canadians play some minutes so we could see how much improved they are. Edited April 4, 2018 by BradMack gator, zeelaw, yothat and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, AvroArrow said: My point is that in a salary cap league, there comes a time when you may have to replace player A with player B because that gives you the cap space to sign player C. With the growth of TAM and GAM the past few years teams (who are willing to pay) have been able to pay for players they want to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, BradMack said: Just a side note, it really seems like the level TFC has gotten to has caused everyone to grow as players. Osorio has improved a ton and it looks like Morgan has as well. I guess training every week with the quality in that squad has some clear benefits. Just wish we could see some of the other Canadians play some minutes so we could see how much improved they are. This is precisely why i am not worried about Chapman at TFC. And he looked to be coming in last night, ahead of Akexte, which showe that Vanney has trust in him. Like Morgan, just needs to take his chance when it comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Obinna said: This is precisely why i am not worried about Chapman at TFC. And he looked to be coming in last night, ahead of Akexte, which showe that Vanney has trust in him. Like Morgan, just needs to take his chance when it comes. Yes, Chapman was standing on the sidelines waiting to come on when the game ended - Vanney is often too slow to make his subs I find, I think Chapman was called to the sidelines to come in at the 88th minute but was still waiting to come on 5 minutes later. I think the circumstances also dictated Vanney choosing him - if they were down at goal or even only up 3-2 I suspect Aketxe would have come on instead of Chapman and much earlier but as TFC were in more of a "defending the lead" mode I believe Vanney sees Chapman as a safer bet defensively to win challenges and hold on to the ball than Aketxe at the moment. As for Morgan, even though he played great, Morrow being on the bench was a sign that he's almost fit so I suspect Morgan will still get benched next week. But as I said earlier, he's at least proving that he can be relied upon and I think has picked up his defensive side of the game considerably. Edited April 4, 2018 by Gian-Luca mpg_29, deschamp86, Obinna and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 14 hours ago, BradMack said: I could see Morgan replacing Morrow in 2 years or whenever Morrow starts to slow down, he is 30 now and you can't afford to lose a step as a fullback in the TFC system. Morgan is 3.5 years younger and should be in his prime. If Ashtone can keep this level of play up he will be given an opportunity but that remains to be seen. ... inany case, we know he will not just be handed the position, they will sign another LB, even when Van der Weil was brought in he saw immediate competition in Auro brought in. I'm not as optimistic of the longer term. He had a great match and his efforts were rewarded with a well earned goal (which might be the difference in this tie) but I don't see him as being a successor to Morrow down the road. I think the club will be much more inclined to buy a younger option with TAM. But who knows? The biggest thing I'm seeing from an NT perspective is that we are seeing more guys competing for starting and squad places as opposed to seeing guys being selected without any real competition for their places. Big performances on the bigger stages by Osorio, Morgan, and other Canadian guys are crucial for Herdman's selection going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestseveran Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 8:34 AM, gator said: Not a chance, Morrow will be right back in his starting spot when he's healthy, the club wouldn't have let Edwards go if they had any plans of that IMO! I actually think Vanney will give Morgan a run in the team until proven otherwise. He's done that with Oso. There still plenty of games with CCL and Canadian Championship so I assume they will be interchangeable at times. gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Usually the way it works. If the players on form the position should be there's to lose. There will be a high level of scrutiny though. If morrow will definitely come in and do a better job it might be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I would start Morgan against Minnesota, I'm sure he'll be up for playing against Quintero and revisiting a long-term friendship: CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE, gator and honestseveran 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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