Complete Homer Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, dyslexic nam said: In jest, I know, but it would be really interesting to know how much of a role he did play in those recruitments (and I mean stuff that would not have otherwise happened with a different Canada-calibre coach). I think you can make a pretty decent argument either way, but at this point it is all pure speculation. Others on this board have said that most of the work was done by others in the organization, so I'm not assigning much credit to him other than having an impressive enough resume when googled to make the program not look as bush league as it used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Complete Homer said: Others on this board have said that most of the work was done by others in the organization, so I'm not assigning much credit to him other than having an impressive enough resume when googled to make the program not look as bush league as it used to be That is kind of where I am at, as well. I have said it elsewhere that I think a player's age, circumstance, and realistic alternatives/prospects likely play a far bigger role in their decision-making process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Not saying he takes the job or even is a fit. What do you guys think about Miguel Herrera. Realize he is a character with his sideline antics but that could potentially be a good thing for mainstream fans/hype etc. former Mexican team coach. Mexico in my opinion has regained the Kings of Concacaf title. Helped Mexico regroup and had a pretty decent World Cup. Went undefeated in group stage (Brazil,Cameroon,Croatia) and got burned hard by Robben's dive in the quarter finals, otherwise very likely could have made it to the semi's. Won the last Gold Cup, mind you with controversy, but they still won it. Has the Mexico LX and concacaf qualifying experience which some of us wanted as both a player and manager. Not sure he would be even interested or how much he'd cost but I could see him wanting to coach on the international stage again. He's been managing since 2002 with mixed results but since 2011 he has been fairly successful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Herrera Regardless his passion would be entertaining to watch and I would seen him as a massive upgrade over Floro with more experience in the areas that we require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The thing I like about Herrera is he really allows and helps/tries to create space for his quality players. I'm sure he would bring creative guys like Osorio, Aleman, Tiebert etc back into the mix, while trying to open up space for guys like Arfield on the field to bag goals. That's my 2 cents. I would approve of the hire. I just know he prefers the 3-5-2.... not sure if we have that player ability but maybe. At the same, he is never afraid to adjust formations etc, so I am sure he would be able to get the best out of our player pool. I don't see him ever wanting to play a long striker up top except maybe vs mexico where he'd line us up as a 5-4-1 instead of the 4-1-4-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Imagine that he'd be a wee bit expensive for our tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Watson/Daso will work cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Would be nice if the "interm" manager brought in was one of the CDN guys. Give him a run out while they search for Floro's replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Of all those, right now, I would only take one, for me the bar minimum but just barely. Anyone want to guess who it is? No idea, but if It was my choice of this lot I MIGHT consider Dos Santos or Biello. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 My money is still on Findlay. He is familiar with the current "feel" (for lack of a better word) of the team and would enable a smooth transition. Plus, I really liked how we played vs Ghana, while he was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, David C. said: My money is still on Findlay. He is familiar with the current "feel" (for lack of a better word) of the team and would enable a smooth transition. Plus, I really liked how we played vs Ghana, while he was in charge. As interim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 38 minutes ago, Complete Homer said: As interim? Yes, I meant as interim for the October/November friendlies. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One American Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 As far as MLS candidates, you should probably add Oscar Pareja of FCD. Good coach, great with youth and development, plus I would guess that the Hunts are paying him in Taco Bueno coupons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I really hope they go after a Liga MX guy like Guillermo Vazquez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, matty said: I really hope they go after a Liga MX guy like Guillermo Vazquez A good Liga MX coach is probably going to cost too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Findlay should be the intern imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Is the interim speculation just that? Or new news? Thought we wanted the new permanent coach in right away - no interim coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I don't know for sure, but I think an interim coach is most likely. They said they weren't going to rush bringing in the next manager, so someone must take the reins in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Pretty much guaranteed to get an interim. Mont Vic said they are not going to rush and are going to do an exhaustive search. No way that's completed by Oct FIFA dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditty Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 56 minutes ago, rob.notenboom said: Pretty much guaranteed to get an interim. Mont Vic said they are not going to rush and are going to do an exhaustive search. No way that's completed by Oct FIFA dates. Yeah, and last time it took a good deal of time before Floro was named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 If we go less than a year with an interim it will be an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 hours ago, jpg75 said: A good Liga MX coach is probably going to cost too much. Likely but you never know. There is pressure on them, from both fans and the media, to hire somebody with a strong track record of success in either MLS or CONCACAF. That pressure could result in the CSA investing a great deal more money than they've previously spent on a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 20 hours ago, The Beaver said: No idea, but if It was my choice of this lot I MIGHT consider Dos Santos or Biello. How about you? The first of those, good picks...though maybe with a bit more experience the second will prove even better. Still, I think that neither is what we need right now, I'd love for things to be different one day, but we are a bit of a ways from seeing Canadian managers doing top notch work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hammer- Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 As far as the goal being to make the HEX, making the World Cup would have been pure gravy. I prefer to think of that as the expectation put on Floro and the team. An expectation that wasn't met, which further justifies his removal. Now this might seem odd...but what about going with a Mexican coach? I'm sure that you could find one of reasonable ability for a resonable cost who certainly understands Central America and how to operate and prepare there. Just a bit of a whimsy thought. Edit: Didn't see Matt's post...yeah I suppose cost might be an issue. As would language barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I think it's worth noting that many managers (including many discussed here) cannot handle being a national team manager. No, I don't mean the pressure, I mean having so much down time. Look at Conte with Italy: he left mainly because he didn't have the opportunity to spend as much time with his players. Basically, he got bored. And Mourinho has said in the past that a national team manager should be in the later stages of their career, so as to not miss the day-in day-out so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 15 hours ago, RJB said: I think it's worth noting that many managers (including many discussed here) cannot handle being a national team manager. No, I don't mean the pressure, I mean having so much down time. Look at Conte with Italy: he left mainly because he didn't have the opportunity to spend as much time with his players. Basically, he got bored. And Mourinho has said in the past that a national team manager should be in the later stages of their career, so as to not miss the day-in day-out so much. I agree with this in principle, the only real exception is if you really have a guy working technically with the FA in question and deeply involved in everything from U-17 up, busy, active, scouting, working on training and models, engaged with the regions. Our problem is that someone who would be ready to handle that would be likely Canadian, or quick to tune in and engage, but we do not have the quality at home for the senior MNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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