-Hammer- Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 2:48 PM, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Not sure if this adds much. I mean, we all suspected. This is exactly what the league was meant to do, and exactly how the league needs to pay it's own bills. Metro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Would have thought it's mainly a prime example of why CF Montreal were foolish not to have a Next Pro team. They don't have enough pro contracts available for all their top academy prospects that have a shot at making it in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Would have thought it's mainly a prime example of why CF Montreal were foolish not to have a Next Pro team. They don't have enough pro contracts available for all their top academy prospects that have a shot at making it in the game. They’ve done pretty well loaning young players to CPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 ^^^probably doesn't realize that what he wrote does not address the point I made. In the absence of an MLS Next team (or USL II team prior to that) they only have 4 professional contracts available on a non-active portion of the roster for players like Sean Rea who are breaking through from the Academy beyond the standard MLS 30 man roster: https://www.spotrac.com/mls/cf-montreal/cap/2022/ That's why even though they still rated Pacius, he wound up at the Forge. Suspect it's only a matter of time until CF Montreal will be required to have a Next Pro team. PdS of the Valour seemed to think the era of MLS loans was drawing to a close in an interview recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbeto Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: ^^^probably doesn't realize that what he wrote does not address the point I made. In the absence of an MLS Next team (or USL II team prior to that) they only have 4 professional contracts available on a non-active portion of the roster for players like Sean Rea who are breaking through from the Academy beyond the standard MLS 30 man roster: https://www.spotrac.com/mls/cf-montreal/cap/2022/ That's why even though they still rated Pacius, he wound up at the Forge. Suspect it's only a matter of time until CF Montreal will be required to have a Next Pro team. PdS of the Valour seemed to think the era of MLS loans was drawing to a close in an interview recently. More or less always are going to MLS loans. I´m sure that it´s natural things. Unnamed Trialist and MM3/MM2/MM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: ^^^probably doesn't realize that what he wrote does not address the point I made. In the absence of an MLS Next team (or USL II team prior to that) they only have 4 professional contracts available on a non-active portion of the roster for players like Sean Rea who are breaking through from the Academy beyond the standard MLS 30 man roster: https://www.spotrac.com/mls/cf-montreal/cap/2022/ That's why even though they still rated Pacius, he wound up at the Forge. Suspect it's only a matter of time until CF Montreal will be required to have a Next Pro team. PdS of the Valour seemed to think the era of MLS loans was drawing to a close in an interview recently. It's still early, but Montreal appear to have made the right decision to skip Next Pro. I still doubt that league lasts more than 5 years before MLS comes up with some other convoluted idea. Besides even without having Next Pro, Montreal appear to be outpacing TFC and Vancouver in young player development. gator and Stryker911 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, narduch said: It's still early, but Montreal appear to have made the right decision to skip Next Pro. I still doubt that league lasts more than 5 years before MLS comes up with some other convoluted idea. On what merit? Nobody has gone out on loan and came back to play with the first team. And what Montreal doing with the loans is nothing new. They've been doing it before when they sent TMG, Kinumbe and others to the Fury....those guys didn't come back to the team. 9 minutes ago, narduch said: Besides even without having Next Pro, Montreal appear to be outpacing TFC and Vancouver in young player development. Cmon bro, we went through this already.....this isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Shway said: On what merit? Nobody has gone out on loan and came back to play with the first team. And what Montreal doing with the loans is nothing new. They've been doing it before when they sent TMG, Kinumbe and others to the Fury....those guys didn't come back to the team. Cmon bro, we went through this already.....this isn't true. Quite frankly I think all 3 MLS Canadian clubs should be doing a better job. Period. I still disagree with you on Montreal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: ^^^probably doesn't realize that what he wrote does not address the point I made. In the absence of an MLS Next team (or USL II team prior to that) they only have 4 professional contracts available on a non-active portion of the roster for players like Sean Rea who are breaking through from the Academy beyond the standard MLS 30 man roster: https://www.spotrac.com/mls/cf-montreal/cap/2022/ That's why even though they still rated Pacius, he wound up at the Forge. Suspect it's only a matter of time until CF Montreal will be required to have a Next Pro team. PdS of the Valour seemed to think the era of MLS loans was drawing to a close in an interview recently. Are you feeling okay? Yesterday you were mocking the notion of CPL teams signing MLS level players, and now you're claiming they need reserve teams to prevent CPL teams from poaching from them. This seems very out of character for you, even though I do imagine it was intended to be a shot at CPL. None of what you say really contradicts what Hammer said about Pacius being an example of why CPL was needed though. A young player given a pro shot, making the most of it and drawing attention from elsewhere. Bbeto and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, narduch said: Quite frankly I think all 3 MLS Canadian clubs should be doing a better job. Period. Agreed! 2 minutes ago, narduch said: I still disagree with you on Montreal though. But I've been waiting for the comparison of why? Where/who are the fruits from Montreals better development. You can't make statements like that without presenting the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Shway said: Nobody has gone out on loan and came back to play with the first team. Wasn't Pantemis a starter by the end of the year? narduch, Shway and chris_yzf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aird25 said: Wasn't Pantemis a starter by the end of the year? And won't he be the starter this year? Or is he going to be replaced by that veteran they signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aird25 said: Wasn't Pantemis a starter by the end of the year? Boom corrected just like that! Is that it? 4 minutes ago, narduch said: And won't he be the starter this year? Or is he going to be replaced by that veteran they signed? Interesting because they waived him, and then re-signed him. Which makes me think they got him back on a cheaper deal, and haven't signed anyone else. No way the D2 keeper is going to be the starting #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Aird25 said: Are you feeling okay? ... I'm not the one who childishly uses emoticons in a passive aggressive sort of way on here. All I'm pointing out is that Pacius is an MLS academy product and that what he has subsequently done in CanPL (and the reported interest from European clubs) suggests that CF Montreal should have found a way to keep more players like him around. There is no CanPL vs MLS angle in any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hammer- Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 2:36 PM, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Would have thought it's mainly a prime example of why CF Montreal were foolish not to have a Next Pro team. They don't have enough pro contracts available for all their top academy prospects that have a shot at making it in the game. Well they don't, which is just a larger crack players in the MLS academies can fall into, that doesn't mean there are others. The transition from youth to academy is bad in this country due to costs, the transition from academy to pro, is far worse due the lack of spots and places to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I don’t get how Forge do this every season. https://northerntribune.ca/forge-fc-preseason-2023/ NVsoccer, Ivan and Ftduck 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 this certainly feels like one last season for bekker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftduck Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Forge kit release party March 10, 7pm to 9pm. Just got an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Forge is massive! gator, Ftduck, SpursFlu and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jonovision Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 One simply has to LOL sometimes at the caliber of signings that Forge gets to make compared to other CPL teams. red card, gator, masster and 6 others 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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