Bison44 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 9:24 AM, Cicero said: Do we have any news on roster moves, aside from drafting the two USports guys? I suppose Bobby was distracted by his interview process. MLS draft is tonight.. some of our guys wont get drafted and they would be good targets for CPL. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Three months until the season. Without champions league, the CPL off-season is soooo long. Still not a peep out of Forge. Did Krutzen stick with Vancouver? toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 For you... Ftduck, Bison44, narduch and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 By March of 2024 he would have spent 5 years playing for Canadian teams. He could be close to qualifying to play for us. toontownman, Pottsy3, Ftduck and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Ivan and cronaldo7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I guess that’s a piece of roster news… Shamit Shome isn’t being re-signed by Forge and instead signed with Cavalry. in other news, Krutzen is still in preseason with VWFC2, and played 25 minutes in their preseason friendly vs a Bundesliga 2 side today. Ftduck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I'm starting to wonder if the team folded and they just didn't bother announcing it...but they keep taking my money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cicero said: I'm starting to wonder if the team folded and they just didn't bother announcing it...but they keep taking my money... Ftduck, aredding77 and NVsoccer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 gator, aredding77, Ftduck and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, narduch said: Good news I would say. I'm sure he would have hoped to get a chance to move up by this point, but he's a valuable contributor for Forge, so as a fan I'm glad to see him return. narduch and fil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftduck Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 ^ Happy to hear this but quite surprising that he wouldnt move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Forge also updated their roster page. Not sure when that happened, but it may reflect who is signed or expected to play for Forge in the coming season. Only 13 on the page plus Choiniere. Notable absences: Bekker, Krutzen, Pacius, Grant (did he retire?), Morgan, Welshman, Nanco. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 And Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 if all those players return, it's a pretty solid core. I'd say still the best D+Mid group in the league. Even without Pacius, Borges-Campbell-Choiniere is a pretty solid front three. Other teams' fans are going to hate us more, but with many of our players entering their prime 25-30 age years, I can definitely see another year of league and/or tournament victory for Forge. Especially if we upgrade at GK. gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 aredding77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Sounds like Krutzen is headed to USLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 5:48 PM, narduch said: Sounds like Krutzen is headed to USLC Interesting…. Surely Forge could match his salary no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Shway said: Interesting…. Surely Forge could match his salary no? Maybe he wants a new challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Booo, couldn't he wait until he has citizenship! Best of luck to him. Pottsy3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Shway said: Interesting…. Surely Forge could match his salary no? Perhaps one day we’ll actually be privy to these sorts of details. Fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Aird25 said: Perhaps one day we’ll actually be privy to these sorts of details. Fingers crossed Probably could match it, but you'd think they'd have to let someone go to do it. Their back five includes Rama, Belewu, Samuel, Metusala, Jonsson if he remains a CB and (currently unsigned) Morgan. That's got to be eating up a lot of the salary cap. They've got a lot of guys in their mid to late 20's now, I'd think some aren't going to want to stick it out for part-time wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The backline instantly becomes our weak spot. It made a difference as soon as Krutzen returned last year. And while AAJ got glowing reviews at CB, I found him oft out of position, and would prefer him back at CDM. As much as Metusala has improved consistently, I don’t love him on the ball. I think we’ll need a new number 1 CB to fill this spot. gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Cicero said: ...Probably could match it, but you'd think they'd have to let someone go to do it... The USL championship doesn't have a rigid salary cap and has players making more than the MLS minimum according to this article from last summer. https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/soccer/rising/2022/06/24/why-so-rare-usl-players-make-leap-mls/7527892001/ ...That raises a separate set of issues. The MLS veteran minimum salary this season is $84,000 whereas USL stars can make upwards of $100,000. While MLS is inherently appealing to players as the country's top-level soccer league, it becomes less so with a trade-off of less money and less playing time... CanPL was probably also aiming for that sort of scenario initially at the top end of its salary range but wound up downscaling the salary budgets from what was initially being talked about on podcasts and in newspaper articles (including the Hamilton Spectator). Edited January 23, 2023 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, Pottsy3 said: The backline instantly becomes our weak spot. It made a difference as soon as Krutzen returned last year. And while AAJ got glowing reviews at CB, I found him oft out of position, and would prefer him back at CDM. As much as Metusala has improved consistently, I don’t love him on the ball. I think we’ll need a new number 1 CB to fill this spot. I don't think it's weak defensively, but Krutzen definitely adds more going forward. We only gave up more than one goal four times last season, and one of those was a 4-3 win over Edmonton. Scoring dried up in August and September, so they limped home to second place in the league with a bunch of 1-0 losses and 1-1, 0-0 ties. I'd agree on Jonsson at CDM, but do we need Jonsson and Hojabrpour playing that role? That's a luxury I would say. I have a feeling Bekker may be winding down his role, or maybe even retiring, so that may change the look of our mid. Looking at the passing map for the final without Bekker, Hojabrpour and Jonsson really ran the offence, Jensen was pushed almost out as a left wing, and Krutzen's possessions look more like a left wingback than a cb. Looking at the passing, most of the game was played really deep in Ottawa's zone. Can't see the strategy of the final working with a Samuel-Metusala CB pairing. Samuel needs to be more of a stay-at-home guy, and neither passes as well as Jonsson or Krutzen. Have to think Smyrniotis is going to look to Belewu to step up and be the Krutzen-type defender in these situations. I think he's capable. Probably going to make a few more mistakes, but I thought he looked pretty solid most of the time he played, though I can remember one clearly boneheaded loss of possession near the end of the season where he tried to dribble forward in Forge's half and paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, Cicero said: I don't think it's weak defensively, but Krutzen definitely adds more going forward. We only gave up more than one goal four times last season, and one of those was a 4-3 win over Edmonton. Scoring dried up in August and September, so they limped home to second place in the league with a bunch of 1-0 losses and 1-1, 0-0 ties. I'd agree on Jonsson at CDM, but do we need Jonsson and Hojabrpour playing that role? That's a luxury I would say. I have a feeling Bekker may be winding down his role, or maybe even retiring, so that may change the look of our mid. Looking at the passing map for the final without Bekker, Hojabrpour and Jonsson really ran the offence, Jensen was pushed almost out as a left wing, and Krutzen's possessions look more like a left wingback than a cb. Looking at the passing, most of the game was played really deep in Ottawa's zone. Can't see the strategy of the final working with a Samuel-Metusala CB pairing. Samuel needs to be more of a stay-at-home guy, and neither passes as well as Jonsson or Krutzen. Have to think Smyrniotis is going to look to Belewu to step up and be the Krutzen-type defender in these situations. I think he's capable. Probably going to make a few more mistakes, but I thought he looked pretty solid most of the time he played, though I can remember one clearly boneheaded loss of possession near the end of the season where he tried to dribble forward in Forge's half and paid for it. Jensen seems to go wherever he wants, just loves to role. I think Hojabrpour has the ability to add more going forward than AAJ, and I remember him doing so with Pacific. Bobby loves a defensive line that can shift, I think that's why he uses so many CB's that also have an ability to play in a wide position. I agree on Belewu being asked to step up and honestly I had sorta forgot about him in my assessment. To me, he's looked like the most promising of the defensive bunch. Peter Schaale is the one option who comes to mind that could fit a Krutzen role seamlessly. Alternatively, I wonder if Nyal Higgins would be an option, as someone who looked solid at CB for FC Edmonton last year and has the mobility to play wide as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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