2023 U20 CONCACAF Championship and U23 Olympic Qualification to be merged in a tournament in Summer 2022

[narduch]

28 minutes ago, xabuep2 said:

Check it out: wikipedia in Spanish has the detailed format: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campeonato_Sub-20_de_la_Concacaf_de_2022

I don't think that is correct. The 1st place teams would face each other in the 2nd round of the knock out stage?

[narduch]

Trying to analyze this draw. In my opinion it is favourable for us. We have a really good chance of making the U-20 World Cup.

You only need to finish top 3 in your group of 4 to advance.

And if the tournament format mirrors the one used in the Women U-20 we will only be battling Teams from Group E & G (plus those 2 play in teams) up to and including the Semi-Finals.

The best result for us in the Group stage would be Canada and USA finishing 1 & 2. The order doesn't really matter.

Edited March 3, 2022 by narduch

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For those looking for a decent summary of eligible guys:

 

 

[VinceA]

 

A good thread looking at YNT expenditure by US Soccer.

[Jedi Ram]

WOW $100 million budget ???   I wonder what's our budget is ?

[VinceA]

7 minutes ago, Jedi Ram said:

WOW $100 million budget ???   I wonder what's our budget is ?

Groupon.

[toontownman]

31 minutes ago, VinceA said:

Groupon.

Expired 2013

[Sal333]

1 hour ago, Jedi Ram said:

WOW $100 million budget ???   I wonder what's our budget is ?

It's about the same amount. We just have less zeros.

[shorty]

8 minutes ago, Sal333 said:

It's about the same amount. We just have less zeros.

No.  It's 100,000,000 as well.  In binary.

[Kadenge]

Crazy that we can even compete currently  with the US given their budget. Just goes to show the talent we have in Canada but we will need to invest heavily in future years if we want to keep up.  The US is churning out young talent like a conveyer belt

[Sal333]

36 minutes ago, Kadenge said:

Crazy that we can even compete currently  with the US given their budget. Just goes to show the talent we have in Canada but we will need to invest heavily in future years if we want to keep up.  The US is churning out young talent like a conveyer belt

They may be churning out young talent like a conveyor belt but they can only play 11 players at a time and 14 (16 for now) for a whole game. Quality is more important than quantity. In hockey Sweden and Finland  compete with Canada for championships but Canada turns out 4-5 times the number of young players that they do.

[VinceA]

59 minutes ago, Kadenge said:

Crazy that we can even compete currently  with the US given their budget. Just goes to show the talent we have in Canada but we will need to invest heavily in future years if we want to keep up.  The US is churning out young talent like a conveyer belt

We don't though. At the youth level we haven't been in a U20 WC since we hosted it. And generally we underperform at youth level until recently.

[narduch]

1 hour ago, VinceA said:

We don't though. At the youth level we haven't been in a U20 WC since we hosted it. And generally we underperform at youth level until recently.

We made the quarter finals in 2003. Off of strong performances by Hume and Josh Simpson. 

But yes its been a major dry spell since we hosted in 2007

[Norrin Radd]

2 hours ago, narduch said:

We made the quarter finals in 2003. Off of strong performances by Hume and Josh Simpson. 

... and Hutchinson!

[Kadenge]

4 hours ago, Sal333 said:

They may be churning out young talent like a conveyor belt but they can only play 11 players at a time and 14 (16 for now) for a whole game. Quality is more important than quantity. In hockey Sweden and Finland  compete with Canada for championships but Canada turns out 4-5 times the number of young players that they do.

Generally, the more blue chip youth players you churn out increases the probability that a few will develop into top end players. We have some elite forwards in Davies & David and Larin is red hot. Plus Tajon potting a few. That has been the difference for us. We probably have the best forwards in Concacaf. Can we sustain that going forward? Not without investing in our youth programs. Sorry can't speak to our hockey teams

[Kadenge]

4 hours ago, VinceA said:

We don't though. At the youth level we haven't been in a U20 WC since we hosted it. And generally we underperform at youth level until recently.

True but our youth programs have been poorly organized...from player selections, poor coaching, lack of camps and prep etc. I am hoping that Herdman has set up a blueprint for Olivieri and his staff to follow and that John has input on player selections as well.

[narduch]

In the latest Northern Futbol podcast they discuss the draw a bit.

Nef called into question our coach. Can't say I disagree with him on that

[toontownman]

4 minutes ago, narduch said:

In the latest Northern Futbol podcast they discuss the draw a bit.

Nef called into question our coach. Can't say I disagree with him on that

Pandering to the Cansoccernews peeps. Disgusting  
 

Think they will bother to release a roster for this camp in advance? Week and a half til it starts, senior roster should be dropping next week too shouldn't it? 17th is the week before the Costa Rica game, probably a good time to drop both rosters. 

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[Cblake]

26 minutes ago, Approve My Account Pls said:

 

Great to see a youth camp once again, will be interesting to see the type of roster they are able to pull together for this. 

[toontownman]

Interesting, wonder if it was moved back or original dates reported were wrong. Good it doesn't clash with the CMNT but also not a fifa window for bringing in European players. 

Hope that Herdman and staff can be there in this case. 

Arsenal u23s don't play during that period though.. 👀 well almost, they do on the 22nd.

[Shway]

15 hours ago, toontownman said:

Interesting, wonder if it was moved back or original dates reported were wrong. Good it doesn't clash with the CMNT but also not a fifa window for bringing in European players. 

Hope that Herdman and staff can be there in this case. 

Arsenal u23s don't play during that period though.. 👀 well almost, they do on the 22nd.

Not that good. We got some guys who have been playing at home who would potentially miss out.

Let’s hope Montreal doesn’t hold back their lot, as a bunch of their guys have looked good under professional minutes.

[Shway]

I still stand on they should’ve had a domestic camp, and played against Forge. No reason why or restrictions for that.

[Sal333]

59 minutes ago, Shway said:

Not that good. We got some guys who have been playing at home who would potentially miss out.

Let’s hope Montreal doesn’t hold back their lot, as a bunch of their guys have looked good under professional minutes.

Huh?!  Two makes a bunch? Out of Kone and Zouhir only Ismael has seen regular minutes.

[Xavier.]

2 hours ago, Sal333 said:

Huh?!  Two makes a bunch? Out of Kone and Zouhir only Ismael has seen regular minutes.

Kone is not eligible