king1010 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I dont buy the "you dont call in players to sit on the bench". This isnt some friendly. Its third round wcq. You need depth. Especially with jdg hutch and johnson getting older and susceptible to injury. Nations all over the world call good players in who dont see the field. Also what about team cohesion and having the player perfect floros system. I dont believe wcq is the time to experiment and call in younger players in place of the more established players so the younger ones can develop. Once again this is wcq. We should select our best. 4th round wcq is 2 months away. If we have one injury in one of our weaker positions we should have the next best up to take his place. The time time for players to learn the system for olympic qualifying was the pan ams. Or the upcoming olympic camp. Not wcq. Wcq is time to call your best players to qualify for the world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Osorio is probably the best jack of all trades, utility midfielder we have. We don't have a spot on the squad for someone of his skillsets? (excluding drama w manager factor) It's not like Canada is blessed with midfielders who are good technically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 To Floro's credit he said we don't have many good dribblers and then he called in 2 of the best we could with Petrasso and Issey. I think Osorio was the casualty of one of those two rather than Bekker. Issey and Petrasso are real wild cards here. If one or both can impress that would be really exciting and give this team an injection of confidence. The more I think about it the more I think this team was strategically rotated from the Gold Cup to give us a morale boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The time time for players to learn the system for olympic qualifying was the pan ams. Or the upcoming olympic camp. Not wcq. Wcq is time to call your best players to qualify for the world cup. Be careful because under that same logic you are saying don't call in players to get cap-tied, and brand new players might have to wait months more to become part of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think it's fair to leave Oso out given his reaction to being subsituted, even if that decision still baffles the mind and defies logic. I also buy into the idea that some squad rotation is taking place, and given the quality of Belize, it's not something I am particularly worried about. That being said, I just don't feel good about this team at this stage of the cycle. I get that Floro wants us to play a certain way and it may take us where we need to go, but it's just a shame that we can't seem to get the maximum out of players like Osorio and Teibert due to tactics. For all the talk about Osorio being lackluster with Canada, there is little talk about Teibert and his drop off with the nats. Like Oso, I don't think we are seeing the best of him and he consistantly looks like a man on and island. Obvious quality but nobody to play off of. Hopefully that changes with Hutchinson and Johnson coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Be careful because under that same logic you are saying don't call in players to get cap-tied, and brand new players might have to wait months more to become part of the system. Floro won't cap tie players anyways. Petrasso over Bustos? Please someone make an argument to explain that I beg you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Under a scenario where we are up a few goals on Belize, all substitutions becomes possible, including cap tying players just to give them their first international experience. Probably not in the first game, more likely in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomurphy1 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Floro won't cap tie players anyways. Petrasso over Bustos? Please someone make an argument to explain that I beg you. Petrasso was scoring as a 19 year old in League One last year. I don't think picking Petrasso is unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Morning everyone! I couldn't be more excited to head up to Toronto and put in a shift with the national team. Have a great week. #canMNT" - Will Johnson's twitter. Just curious, but I wonder where all those people that were questioning Will's loyalty have gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Be careful because under that same logic you are saying don't call in players to get cap-tied, and brand new players might have to wait months more to become part of the system. yes, good point. Its a difficult balancing act for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Morning everyone! I couldn't be more excited to head up to Toronto and put in a shift with the national team. Have a great week. #canMNT" - Will Johnson's twitter. Just curious, but I wonder where all those people that were questioning Will's loyalty have gone? Will is a BEAUTY! Glad he is back firing on all cylanders for Portland. Things could've been a lot worse with that injury of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 CSA just tweeted that training camp will be held at Nottawasaga before heading back to Toronto on Thursday. Guess they preferred to get out of the city and stay at a resort with all amenities on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Morning everyone! I couldn't be more excited to head up to Toronto and put in a shift with the national team. Have a great week. #canMNT" - Will Johnson's twitter. Just curious, but I wonder where all those people that were questioning Will's loyalty have gone? El Hombre Sarcástico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 CSA just tweeted that training camp will be held at Nottawasaga before heading back to Toronto on Thursday. Guess they preferred to get out of the city and stay at a resort with all amenities on site. And do the same thing they've always done for any camp in the Toronto area for the last 12 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 El Hombre Sarcástico It does point to something someone mentioned earlier here where if a thought gets repeated often, it almost gets accepted as fact on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 And do the same thing they've always done for any camp in the Toronto area for the last 12 years.... easy there... just pointed it out because recently they were getting away from nottawasaga and using the TFC training ground. for wcq against dominica they never went up to nottawasaga. nor did they for gold cup albeit, turn around time from houston to Toronto was too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It does point to something someone mentioned earlier here where if a thought gets repeated often, it almost gets accepted as fact on this board. I wasn't on the Johnson hates us bandwagon because Bernier & Ouimette weren't getting called in too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Morning everyone! I couldn't be more excited to head up to Toronto and put in a shift with the national team. Have a great week. #canMNT" - Will Johnson's twitter. Just curious, but I wonder where all those people that were questioning Will's loyalty have gone? I'm still here. :-) ...and thrilled to see Will back in the fold. Reading through the endless Bekker vs Osorio posts, I can't help but think that the real story in the roster release is that for the first time under Floro, we finally get to have Atiba and Will pulling the strings in midfield - and just in time for a 2-game series, before we head into the dreaded Fourth Round (were we've failed miserably over the last few cycles). Few "situations" are more important for us than to keep these two healthy and in good form. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Petrasso was scoring as a 19 year old in League One last year. I don't think picking Petrasso is unreasonable. Yeah, he was. Now, he's not. Why are we calling him instead of Bustos? He's scoring in USL and needs to be cap tied. If Floro never picked Petrasso I would have nothing to complain about, but obviously he wants a young attacker to come in and learn. So then, why isn't that young attacker Bustos (or Boakai for that matter)? Is Petrasso that much better than Bustos that we're passing up a chance to cap-tie him? Edit: To add to that, I personally don't think either deserve a call and I acknowledge USL is a low level (as is QPR U-21), so it is not about one player being more deserving over the other, it's about both being undeserving and Floro calling in the one NOT at risk of defecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'm still here. :-) ...and thrilled to see Will back in the fold. Reading through the endless Bekker vs Osorio posts, I can't help but think that the real story in the roster release is that for the first time under Floro, we finally get to have Atiba and Will pulling the strings in midfield - and just in time for a 2-game series, before we head into the dreaded Fourth Round (were we've failed miserably over the last few cycles). Few "situations" are more important for us than to keep these two healthy and in good form. Cheers! Lets hope floro starts tiba and will together these next two matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Of course people had every right to question Will's loyalty. He hasn't had a cap in over 2 years. Glad to see him back, but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Yeah, he was. Now, he's not. Why are we calling him instead of Bustos? He's scoring in USL and needs to be cap tied. If Floro never picked Petrasso I would have nothing to complain about, but obviously he wants a young attacker to come in and learn. So then, why isn't that young attacker Bustos (or Boakai for that matter)? Is Petrasso that much better than Bustos that we're passing up a chance to cap-tie him? Edit: To add to that, I personally don't think either deserve a call and I acknowledge USL is a low level (as is QPR U-21), so it is not about one player being more deserving over the other, it's about both being undeserving and Floro calling in the one NOT at risk of defecting. That would be a bad precendent to set. Fence sitters/potential defectors get calls and guys loyal to program through youth program get to wait on senior calls?? The endless complaining is astonishing! How many young players can he captie and work into the system in one camp and a 2 game series that we HAVE TO WIN? I look at the roster and the inclusion of Adekugbe (needs to be captied almost as much as Bustos), Petrasso, James, Gasparatto, Crepeau (young guys getting integrated into system) and the return of Hutch, Johnson and Isssy (vets coming back to fold) and I am pretty pleased. He cant make everyone happy and have everyones particular fav player in every camp. He has a good strong team, and hopefully the mids will kick in some offense spark, we get up a few goals and some of the young guys can get their first cap. Maybe next time Tiebert/Bekker/Issey sits, Osario is rotated back in, Boaki, Babouli, Bustos and Trafford are the young guys getting their first shot. We can hope eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Of course people had every right to question Will's loyalty. He hasn't had a cap in over 2 years. Glad to see him back, but yeah. Exactly. I also questioned his loyalty at the time. But again, glad to see him back. Always (save the last two years) been a WJ fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Petrasso was involved with the senior team when we played a friendly at Craven Cottage a couple of years back, from all acounts he impressed as a youngster although he was there only for early exposure to the MNT set up! I am surprised as anyone at his inclusion on this roster because he has been injured for quite some time and was injured again on his return with the QPR U21's, I don't expect to see him play any minutes in these two matches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 People are only panicking about Bustos' "exclusion" from the team because some website somewhere said he could be an option for Chile's U-20 team. Were it not for that dubious link I don't think anyone who think twice that he wasn't on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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