Canada and the U17 World Cup: Nov 10 to Dec 2 in Indonesia

[Soccerpro2]

5 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

Didn’t Lowell Wright have a good tournament too? 

I stand by my take. Justin Smith was the only standout from the team.

[VinceA]

42 minutes ago, Soccerpro2 said:

Justin Smith was the only player on the Canadian roster who played strongly in the qualifying tournament.

The CPL players didn’t raise the previous standard of the u20 program.

 

29 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

Didn’t Lowell Wright have a good tournament too? 

The CPL players looked better than the academy players, but the general play of the team was pretty middling, which I blame on the prep and coaching. We don't hold nearly as many camps as other programs which always bites us. The team did better than the ones previous just based on the fact they had an extra camp in April before the tournament.

The CPL players though looked like they were much more comfortable out there. And this was sentiment shared by media IIRC. I remember Poku being pretty decent as well.

It's cool if you don't want to rate the CPL guys, but that's your opinion.

[Stoppage Time]

15 minutes ago, Soccerpro2 said:

Justin Smith was the only player on the Canadian roster who played strongly in the qualifying tournament.

The CPL players didn’t raise the previous standard of the u20 program.

How might the next U-20 team stack up? Are there some up and coming young guys in the CPL who could help the team improve?  How about for the U - 17? As for the senior team, it will take a Buchanan or Johnston or David type player to be discovered and/or developed by a CPL team to make an impact. These days, think somebody like Nimick at Wanderers? 

[Soccerpro2]

52 minutes ago, VinceA said:

 

The CPL players looked better than the academy players, but the general play of the team was pretty middling, which I blame on the prep and coaching. We don't hold nearly as many camps as other programs which always bites us. The team did better than the ones previous just based on the fact they had an extra camp in April before the tournament.

The CPL players though looked like they were much more comfortable out there. And this was sentiment shared by media IIRC. I remember Poku being pretty decent as well.

It's cool if you don't want to rate the CPL guys, but that's your opinion.

It is my opinion. Poku was good, but to say the the CPL players were better generally than the other players is false. Assi, Ferdinand weren’t good, Wright was a bull in a China shop using his physicality and not much else, Catavalo was decent at the tourney and terrible for my Valour.

One can acknowledge the CPL is a good thing without being a cheerleader with rose coloured glasses. A few months or a year with a CPL team isn’t going to substantially move the needle for our youth national teams at Concacaf tourneys.

[Dominic94]

Poku was good, I liked Catavolo and our CPL guys were the better ones.

it’s the ones who get the regular pro minutes who will really benefit and standout. That will take time.

[phresh]

48 minutes ago, Stoppage Time said:

How might the next U-20 team stack up? Are there some up and coming young guys in the CPL who could help the team improve?  How about for the U - 17? As for the senior team, it will take a Buchanan or Johnston or David type player to be discovered and/or developed by a CPL team to make an impact. These days, think somebody like Nimick at Wanderers? 

The U20 tourney is next year, the dates haven't been released yet. I believe the cut-off is 2005. Khadim Kane and James Cameron are the two with the most playing time in the CPL, Tahid is two years younger. The only '05 that's gotten game time in MLS this year is Pearlman, then you got Stefanovic who's an '06. De Fougerolles will be eligible, the rest will probably be made up of Next Pro guys and CFM academy players, maybe a couple based in Europe . There's also Kimani-Stewart Baynes, the freshman at Maryland who's been absolutely electric, probably their best player. His name has been brought up here before, though I don't know if we'll see an NCAA player on the team. Overall, not a lot of players at a high level 

[Stoppage Time]

3 hours ago, phresh said:

The U20 tourney is next year, the dates haven't been released yet. I believe the cut-off is 2005. Khadim Kane and James Cameron are the two with the most playing time in the CPL, Tahid is two years younger. The only '05 that's gotten game time in MLS this year is Pearlman, then you got Stefanovic who's an '06. De Fougerolles will be eligible, the rest will probably be made up of Next Pro guys and CFM academy players, maybe a couple based in Europe . There's also Kimani-Stewart Baynes, the freshman at Maryland who's been absolutely electric, probably their best player. His name has been brought up here before, though I don't know if we'll see an NCAA player on the team. Overall, not a lot of players at a high level 

Does not sound promising, Stefanovic and Pearlman notwithstanding. And, James Cameron at VFC has been a disappointment at the back, IMHO, being caught out of position often. Hopefully, we can get some more young Canadians who are playing in Europe into the squads.

[Atlantic]

3 hours ago, phresh said:

The U20 tourney is next year, the dates haven't been released yet. I believe the cut-off is 2005. Khadim Kane and James Cameron are the two with the most playing time in the CPL, Tahid is two years younger. The only '05 that's gotten game time in MLS this year is Pearlman, then you got Stefanovic who's an '06. De Fougerolles will be eligible, the rest will probably be made up of Next Pro guys and CFM academy players, maybe a couple based in Europe . There's also Kimani-Stewart Baynes, the freshman at Maryland who's been absolutely electric, probably their best player. His name has been brought up here before, though I don't know if we'll see an NCAA player on the team. Overall, not a lot of players at a high level 

It'll be interesting to see if they'll do what happens in most youth tournaments where the majority of the squad is the oldest players eligible or if they're willing to take skill over age. With that said, some good 2005 players in Europe are Schiavoni (Bologna), Costa (Wolfsburg), Swiderski (Bordeaux) and Boyaci (Demirspor). Bunbury in the US with Crew 2 is a decent shout for a roster spot next year. 

[InglewoodJack]

1 hour ago, Stoppage Time said:

Does not sound promising, Stefanovic and Pearlman notwithstanding. And, James Cameron at VFC has been a disappointment at the back, IMHO, being caught out of position often. Hopefully, we can get some more young Canadians who are playing in Europe into the squads.

If LDF comes over and if that kid at Juventus who was apparently playing pro in Bulgaria at 15 is actually in the mix, that would be a decent core. I like what little I’ve seen of Tahid too, he started the season off well. 

[VinceA]

4 hours ago, phresh said:

The U20 tourney is next year, the dates haven't been released yet. I believe the cut-off is 2005. Khadim Kane and James Cameron are the two with the most playing time in the CPL, Tahid is two years younger. The only '05 that's gotten game time in MLS this year is Pearlman, then you got Stefanovic who's an '06. De Fougerolles will be eligible, the rest will probably be made up of Next Pro guys and CFM academy players, maybe a couple based in Europe . There's also Kimani-Stewart Baynes, the freshman at Maryland who's been absolutely electric, probably their best player. His name has been brought up here before, though I don't know if we'll see an NCAA player on the team. Overall, not a lot of players at a high level 

Fun fact: Stewart-Baynes' brother is Minnesota Vikings wide receiver N'Keal Harry.

[Dominic94]

4 hours ago, InglewoodJack said:

If LDF comes over and if that kid at Juventus who was apparently playing pro in Bulgaria at 15 is actually in the mix, that would be a decent core. I like what little I’ve seen of Tahid too, he started the season off well. 

Tahid hasn’t played in awhile 

[VinceA]

8 hours ago, phresh said:

The U20 tourney is next year, the dates haven't been released yet. I believe the cut-off is 2005. Khadim Kane and James Cameron are the two with the most playing time in the CPL, Tahid is two years younger. The only '05 that's gotten game time in MLS this year is Pearlman, then you got Stefanovic who's an '06. De Fougerolles will be eligible, the rest will probably be made up of Next Pro guys and CFM academy players, maybe a couple based in Europe . There's also Kimani-Stewart Baynes, the freshman at Maryland who's been absolutely electric, probably their best player. His name has been brought up here before, though I don't know if we'll see an NCAA player on the team. Overall, not a lot of players at a high level 

And right on point James Cameron scores his first pro goal to win VFC their match.

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

1 hour ago, Dominic94 said:

Tahid hasn’t played in awhile 

He played a few minutes tonight!

[Jack1997]

I doubt LDF is on the roster but if he is that’d be huge, a back 3 of LDF, Stefanovic and Pearlman would maybe be the best in the whole tournament.

[HochelagaFC]

13 hours ago, VinceA said:

Fun fact: Stewart-Baynes' brother is Minnesota Vikings wide receiver N'Keal Harry.

I just read that Harry is only born in Canada but was raised in St-Vincent and in Arizona. Is it the same with Stewart Baynes or does he have stronger ties to Canada?

[VinceA]

32 minutes ago, Jack1997 said:

I doubt LDF is on the roster but if he is that’d be huge, a back 3 of LDF, Stefanovic and Pearlman would maybe be the best in the whole tournament.

for the U17s? He's too old.

[Jack1997]

Just now, VinceA said:

for the U17s? He's too old.

U20s, I am just realizing now that my post made no clarification I was talking about u20s and it wasn’t evident at all.

[Footyeh]

I'm not sure how much Olivieri will change the roster from the group that Qualified, but it would be criminal not to add in players like Tahid or Joses Chukwu (top Canadian goal scorer from MLS Next).  The team seemed to lack ideas up top.  

Praying for a surprise or two.

[NVsoccer]

Liam Mackenzie (2007) made his debut for Whitecaps FC 2 yesterday.

https://www.whitecapsfc.com/wfc2/news/caps-drop-1-0-result-to-st-louis-city2

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

FIFA reconfirm the pots (that were previously leaked)

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/u17worldcup/articles/u17-world-cup-draw-indonesia-2023-all-you-need-to-know

The draw is Friday.

[VinceA]

Are we gonna get a roster for these friendlies?

[xabuep2]

5 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

FIFA reconfirm the pots (that were previously leaked)

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/u17worldcup/articles/u17-world-cup-draw-indonesia-2023-all-you-need-to-know

The draw is Friday.

Indonesia, Ecuador and New Zealand a group of life 🤞

[phresh]

 

[VinceA]

Hope Kevaughn Tavernier gets a call-up. Training and playing with Forge's first team now. That's better than U16/U17 ball in an academy.

[VinceA]

I wonder if the U17 program should seriously look at regulars in League1 Ontario.

Goalkeeper for North Miss Michael Williams played 15 games against men, and was on the bench for York United a number of times. Surely that's worth a look over GKs who are still in academy set-ups?