mrstepp817 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 The biggest wildcard for the Gold Cup is the Nations League.....if teams make the Nations League semifinals and finals and send their "A" squad to that tournament with the Gold Cup starting less than ten days after do they give some of their stars some time off in the summer? Especially guys based in Europe who have had such a condensed schedule with a winter World Cup etc... It's basically what the US did after they won the Nations League in 2021...sent pretty much a different team to the Gold Cup...I think at minimum the four teams who make the Nations League finals will rotate some guys through narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 hours ago, CanadaFan123 said: Mexico and Jamaica have already clinched. Yeah, what @Olympique_de_Marseillesaid. I wrote that on not much sleep in a rush and got confused. Those scenarios for Jamaica and Mexico were for final 4. The others were for clinching Gold Cup, but obviously I could have made a bunch of other errors too, I'm not sure. CanadaFan123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Scenarios for Gold Cup qualification today. Nicaragua qualifies if -they draw against Trinidad Trinidad and Tobago qualifies if -they win against Nicaragua French Guiana qualifies if -they draw against Guatemala Guatemala qualifies if -they win against French Guiana narduch, dyslexic nam, Shway and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Kent said: Scenarios for Gold Cup qualification today. Nicaragua qualifies if -they draw against Trinidad Trinidad and Tobago qualifies if -they win against Nicaragua French Guiana qualifies if -they draw against Guatemala Guatemala qualifies if -they win against French Guiana I hope Trinidad qualify and Guatemala beats the FG. Just so the unofficial teams have a harder time of making the final tournament. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Shway said: I hope Trinidad qualify and Guatemala beats the FG. Just so the unofficial teams have a harder time of making the final tournament. Yeah, I'm definitely cheering for Guatemala, and I have a slight preference for T&T over Nicaragua, completely due to the memory of T&T's golden generation that made it to the World Cup (and lost to us in the 2000 Gold Cup) so there is some hope that they could raise their level. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Nicaragua and Guatemala have both qualified. All direct qualification spots have been taken now. There is just one spot left in the prelims that will be taken by either Bonaire (non-FIFA country, so boo!) or Sint Maarten. It looks like the preliminary round draw is part of the main draw, on April 14th. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCrTFC Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Had Beliz qualified we would have had all the continental members of Concacaf participating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil R. Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Kent said: Nicaragua and Guatemala have both qualified. All direct qualification spots have been taken now. There is just one spot left in the prelims that will be taken by either Bonaire (non-FIFA country, so boo!) or Sint Maarten. It looks like the preliminary round draw is part of the main draw, on April 14th. Sint Maarten takes the final spot in the preliminary round with their away win over US Virgin Islands. Bonaire was unable to defeat Turks and Caicos Islands at home, so 3 of the 4 non-FIFA members will be in the qualification round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) So if we go based on the current CONCACAF rankings and the same draw format as 2021, the pots are: Pot A: Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Canada Pot B: Panama, Jamaica, Haiti, Honduras, Pot C. Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Cuba Pot D. Qatar, Playoff winners Group of life: Canada, Haiti/Honduras, Nicaragua, Sint Maarten Group of death: Canada, Panama, El Salvador, Qatar Edit: After closer inspection, we may see Guatemala and Honduras trade places before the draw. Honduras as a pot 3 team would be a definite banana peel for someone, regardless of recent results. Edited March 29, 2023 by footballfreak johnyb, Admiral Murray, Jack1997 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 blueseeka, Obinna and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Announce locations Edited March 30, 2023 by theaub narduch, Pottsy3 and Olympique_de_Marseille 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, theaub said: Announce locations Not sure how much that matters until the draw on April 14th. Of course, you could always just book your trip to SoFi Stadium on July 16th now. 😉 Unnamed Trialist and nfitz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, narduch said: Do we want the easiest possibly group to deepen the squad, do we want the toughest group for the most competitive experience, or a combination? Toughest: Panama (or Jamaica), Honduras, Qatar Easiest: Guatemala, Nicaragua (tempted to go Cuba), Prelim Winner (T&T are a realistic underdog) Tougher Combination: Haiti, El Salvador, Qatar Easier Combination: Guatemala, Honduras, Curacao (arguably best team in Prelim) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 10:39 PM, footballfreak said: So if we go based on the current CONCACAF rankings and the same draw format as 2021, the pots are: Pot A: Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Canada Pot B: Panama, Jamaica, Haiti, Honduras, Pot C. Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Cuba Pot D. Qatar, Playoff winners Whoever we draw, this really beats a few years ago when we'd be in (hopefully) pot 2 looking up at pot 1 and hoping to be drawn with Costa Rica or Panama instead of Mexico or the US. Now I honestly don't really care who we draw because I expect us to win. Vasi, Goal_Kick, jsmith and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, Obinna said: Do we want the easiest possibly group to deepen the squad, do we want the toughest group for the most competitive experience, or a combination? Toughest: Panama (or Jamaica), Honduras, Qatar Easiest: Guatemala, Nicaragua (tempted to go Cuba), Prelim Winner (T&T are a realistic underdog) Tougher Combination: Haiti, El Salvador, Qatar Easier Combination: Guatemala, Honduras, Curacao (arguably best team in Prelim) Easiest because you still have to play. And you want to finish 1st in the group to get a better quarter final draw. They'll gerrymander the draw so that Mexico and the US don't face each other until the final, as long as each finishes first in their group. So we'll have a US or Mexico semi final, like last time. Olympique_de_Marseille and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil R. Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 They've already allocated which group the 4 highest-ranked teams will be in: Group A United States Group B Mexico Group C Costa Rica Group D Canada The 2021 Gold Cup also saw the US and Mexico in A and B (Mexico was in A, the US was in B). If this year's knockout stage bracket follows the 2021 tournament bracket, 1D/2A was a quarter-final matchup, as was 2D/1A. 1D/2A's path from the quarter-final led to a semi-final with the winner of 1B/2C. johnyb and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Watchmen said: Not sure how much that matters until the draw on April 14th. 3 hours ago, Neil R. said: They've already allocated which group the 4 highest-ranked teams will be in: Group A United States Group B Mexico Group C Costa Rica Group D Canada That is why I think they can announce locations; those will tell us where the USA, Mexico, Costa Rica and us will play our group stage matches. Edited March 31, 2023 by Olympique_de_Marseille Watchmen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) On 3/30/2023 at 2:31 PM, Neil R. said: They've already allocated which group the 4 highest-ranked teams will be in: Group A United States Group B Mexico Group C Costa Rica Group D Canada The 2021 Gold Cup also saw the US and Mexico in A and B (Mexico was in A, the US was in B). If this year's knockout stage bracket follows the 2021 tournament bracket, 1D/2A was a quarter-final matchup, as was 2D/1A. 1D/2A's path from the quarter-final led to a semi-final with the winner of 1B/2C. In other words, if things go chalk we get Mexico in the semi-finals. Kinda hoped we might get the US first. I feel like Mexico will wilt as the tournament goes on, whereas the US depth ensures they will still be fresh in the final. Here’s hoping 2A is a soft touch in the QF - Guatemala would be ideal. Edited April 1, 2023 by footballfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 There is another way to think about this though: It was always set up before to guarantee a Mexico vs US final assuming both teams won out. Canada's play now makes that no longer a guarantee. Wonder if they might worry less about setting up the Mexico/US final now, and just allowing the match up to happen in the semi-finals if that's how it goes. Heck, could even have a proper draw for once. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, Watchmen said: There is another way to think about this though: It was always set up before to guarantee a Mexico vs US final assuming both teams won out. Canada's play now makes that no longer a guarantee. Wonder if they might worry less about setting up the Mexico/US final now, and just allowing the match up to happen in the semi-finals if that's how it goes. Heck, could even have a proper draw for once. Well last time it was better than previous editions when they gamed the 12 team tournament so that even if the US or Mexico were 2nd in the group they still wouldn't play a group winner. The expansion to 16 teams did away with that option. johnyb and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Metro, Alex, maccaliam and 19 others 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShralpShralpShral Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Well that's pretty sweet. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Wow that was out of the blue. Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShralpShralpShral Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Does the Gold Cup take place at the same time as the Nations League finals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 May help explain the extra seats behind the goal at BMO Field. Hopefully it will be a CMNT game or even better games that get played there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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