Obinna Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 How did he do out there in his 15 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm pretty sure, looking at baulderdash's numbers, that this is now a record year for Canadian players and MLS minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I'm pretty sure, looking at baulderdash's numbers, that this is now a record year for Canadian players and MLS minutes. That's quite possible, although in 2009, Toronto's minutes played by Canadians rate was 38%, which is not far off from the 41.6% combined total of the Canadian MLS teams to this point this year (Toronto 19.6%, Montreal 14.2%, Vancouver 7.8%, including V-Cup games - the MLS-only numbers are a bit lower). 2009 also had quite a few MLS regulars on non-MLS teams (De Rosario, Hainault, Onstad, Johnson, Jakovic, off the top of my head). It will interesting to see how things compare at the end of the season, keeping in mind the MLS season is slightly longer these days (right?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What I'd consider a record is that we have 6 regular "starters", 6 regular "subs" or at least rotation guys along with another 12 bench warmer types. That's probably a record amount of depth for us compared to other years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What I'd consider a record is that we have 6 regular "starters", 6 regular "subs" or at least rotation guys along with another 12 bench warmer types. That's probably a record amount of depth for us compared to other years. You're probably right. I might run the numbers at the end of the season. Other non-TFC Canadians in MLS in 2009 included Ante Jazic, Antonio Ribeiro, and Kevin Harmse. I suspect no matter what definition you use, 2009 and 2014 will end up being quite close in terms of Canadian content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I think in 2012 there were more minutes played. From a blog I saw that Toronto played Candians 7,692, Montreal played 2,194 & Vancouver played 132 minutes (seriously!). On top of that off the top of my head we also had DeRo(2195), Will Johnson (2087), Jakovic (1861), Hainault (2030), Jazic (2379) and De Guzman (929 at Dallas). I'm sure there were other Canadians. So definitely 2012 had more Canadian content in terms of minutes and quality minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What I'd consider a record is that we have 6 regular "starters", 6 regular "subs" or at least rotation guys along with another 12 bench warmer types. That's probably a record amount of depth for us compared to other years. Yeah I agree, I've been sort of talking about depth for a bit in other threads, and I think the MLS Canadian teams are starting to pay minor dividends in terms of CMNT depth. Still a long way to go, but on the right path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One American Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Man, Montreal is developing a real core of Canadian players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How many of them are actually going to figure into the first team next year? Playing Ouimette/Lefevre/Miller in the backline at the start of the season really helped put the team in a tailspin that they never recovered from. That's a cautionary tale about playing a lot of young players that I'm sure the organization won't forget any time soon, similar to the Whitecaps forward situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How many of them are actually going to figure into the first team next year? Playing Ouimette/Lefevre/Miller in the backline at the start of the season really helped put the team in a tailspin that they never recovered from. That's a cautionary tale about playing a lot of young players that I'm sure the organization won't forget any time soon, similar to the Whitecaps forward situation. None of them were ready but the problem was we did not have anyone else better to put in because we inexplicably did not make any signings in the off-season. I have no idea what could have led NDS to think that the youth players were ready other than his total incompetence. They should be brought in slowly playing with other strong players not thrown to the wolves on a terrible team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Normally I agree with such a statement, but I for one am happy that young Canadians were "thrown to the wolves" so to speak. Strictly from a CMNT perspective, I don't think we can afford to bring our young players in slowly (even if that is the ideal). We severally lack depth in our program. Would the national team be better off with Ouimette getting spot minutes on a good Montreal team? Or, would we be better off with Ouimette playing significant minutes on a poor Montreal team? I'd prefer the latter. The best teacher is the game experience itself. So while not ideal for Montreal, I think there's a silver lining for Canadian fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Man, Montreal is developing a real core of Canadian players. I know, it's impressive. In all honesty though, I have a feeling that for a while now Klopas has essentially took a look at his squad, their place in the league and the lack of cap room or tradable assets, and decided the rest of this year will be a "developmental season". Perhaps some of their academy players have been fast-tracked a bit into the first team to provide cheap squad depth next year. Montreal are sure to re-tool in the off-season, and I will be interested to see if their's a net increase or decrease in their Canadian player minutes next season... but I suspect the later. I would love to be proven wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One American Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I know, it's impressive. In all honesty though, I have a feeling that for a while now Klopas has essentially took a look at his squad, their place in the league and the lack of cap room or tradable assets, and decided the rest of this year will be a "developmental season". Perhaps some of their academy players have been fast-tracked a bit into the first team to provide cheap squad depth next year. Montreal are sure to re-tool in the off-season, and I will be interested to see if their's a net increase or decrease in their Canadian player minutes next season... but I suspect the later. I would love to be proven wrong though. I would guess decease, although some players like Tissot have earned more time and more consistent play toward the end of the season than at the beginning, so that might balance it some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I would guess decease, although some players like Tissot have earned more time and more consistent play toward the end of the season than at the beginning, so that might balance it some. RIP Canadian soccer minutes Serioiusly though, personally I hope to see an increase...and I think it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Russell Teibert goes 90 in our loss to Portland. That is pretty much it for our playoff hopes. This was a "must not lose" game and we lost. 2 points behind Portland isn't insurmountable but they have the easier finish to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One American Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 JGL starts at left back. Will Johnson gets his usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 JGL starts at left back. Will Johnson gets his usual. How did JGL play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 How did JGL play? The usual. He's calm on the ball and did his job. Klopas even has said that one of the reasons he's playing JGL there because Canada is playing him there, (the other being that with Krol suspended and with the decision to sit out Camara due to an elbow injury, that he chose to play him at left back instead of Ouimette.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The usual. He's calm on the ball and did his job. Klopas even has said that one of the reasons he's playing JGL there because Canada is playing him there, (the other being that with Krol suspended and with the decision to sit out Camara due to an elbow injury, that he chose to play him at left back instead of Ouimette.) It would be nice if he could win the spot. I,rate him over Krol and Ouimette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 After watching JGL the past couple weeks I don't see how they go back to Krol, especially at this stage when you're looking to the future. One particular play I was impressed with was when he outpaced Cato and nodded it back to Bush, great composure and he made a tough play look easy. Another play he out waited Cato who was in a decent position and forced the winger to dribble out across the touchline, he showed great patience there. I can see why Floro likes him as a left back, he really has great potential in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Agreed I was saying a couple months ago when we first saw JGL there that this could be "a thing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I stand corrected lol. I believe I was the one who claimed JGL at left back would be temporary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 How has Jackson Hamel been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 How has Jackson Hamel been? Getting a sore bum on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Tesho Akindele did not start, but came on in the 54th minute of Dallas' home match with Seattle. The score was 1-2 for Dallas at the time, and they would go on to win the match 3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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