Grizzly Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 7 hours ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: 1) Morocco was caught paying bribes for the 2010 World Cup in spite of losing the vote. They were double crossed by Blazer and Warner among others. They are capable of corruption. You don't think the US, Canada and Mexico are capable of corruption too? Every World Cup in recent memory has been won by a corrupt bid winning against other corrupt bids. There have been a lot of revelations about corruption in the winning Spain and Germany World Cup bids but they just don't get publicized so much because we in the West like to point our fingers at other countries corruption and hide and ignore our own. It is annoying. Qatar won over England not because England did not play as dirty as Qatar, Qatar simply beat them in the corrupt system that England played a big role in establishing. FIFA is just as corrupt now as when Blatter was there, the corruption is just controlled by different countries the main one of which is the US. If the US wants the World Cup they will get it and Morocco will have 0% chance no matter what they do. The only chance Morocco has is if the US is not fully interested in hosting the World Cup and only makes a half hearted effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Grizzly said: You don't think the US, Canada and Mexico are capable of corruption too? Every World Cup in recent memory has been won by a corrupt bid winning against other corrupt bids. There have been a lot of revelations about corruption in the winning Spain and Germany World Cup bids but they just don't get publicized so much because we in the West like to point our fingers at other countries corruption and hide and ignore our own. It is annoying. Qatar won over England not because England did not play as dirty as Qatar, Qatar simply beat them in the corrupt system that England played a big role in establishing. FIFA is just as corrupt now as when Blatter was there, the corruption is just controlled by different countries the main one of which is the US. If the US wants the World Cup they will get it and Morocco will have 0% chance no matter what they do. The only chance Morocco has is if the US is not fully interested in hosting the World Cup and only makes a half hearted effort. Of course the North America bid is capable of corruption. Never said they weren't. In fact, the 180 million dollar bonus that Fox is offering to FIFA if the US gets 2026 could be construed as an over the table bribe. Question is, would that sway the 211 individual voters compared to someone going around to voters like Bin Hamamm handing out brown envelopes. BTW, England did not lose to Qatar, they lost to Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/edmonton-to-discuss-playing-host-to-fifa-world-cup-in-2026 The Edmonton community and public services committee is going to hold a meeting regarding hosting the World Cup on January 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Also, we are 6 months away from knowing if United USA-MEX-CAN wins or if le Maroc va gagner! Strange that the community stuff would begin before confirmation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 The real question us that Trump aka the Neanderthal calling the African block a shithole just cost us the world cup? Too late to solo bid...FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNMNTPERUELIGIBLE Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Ansem said: The real question us that Trump aka the Neanderthal calling the African block a shithole just cost us the world cup? @ Ansem I hope not!!!!... You think it could have such a big effect in that regard??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 16 hours ago, Ansem said: The real question us that Trump aka the Neanderthal calling the African block a shithole just cost us the world cup? Too late to solo bid...FML Well, this article says that only only a "crazy action" from Donald Trump could cost Canmexiates the the World Cup. Those comments might just have been that "crazy action" which will haunt us. The fact that we are bidding against one of the countries that Trump is seemingly referring to does not help our cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2026 World Cup: Why North America Must Take Morocco's Bid Seriously https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveprice/2017/11/08/2026-world-cup-why-north-america-must-take-moroccos-bid-seriously/amp/ Imagine now with Trump's racist remarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Next time around 2040s if we win or as early as 2034 if we lose, let's bid SOLO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/01/22/mayor-john-tory-backs-2026-world-cup-bid.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 In the CBC report it states that Canada will be a automatic qualifier if we win the united bid. When was that decided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, MtlMario said: In the CBC report it states that Canada will be a automatic qualifier if we win the united bid. When was that decided? Remember, the article says that it is the city that said we will automatically qualify. That should be taken with a grain of salt as the staffers aren't soccer experts. It is possible that they just Googled "FIFA World Cup" and found that the hosts automatically qualify. They may not realize that a three team World Cup will probably have different regulations. The only confirmation that we should consider official should be from either the CSA, FIFA or the bid committee. Regardless, this is good progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort York Redcoat1555362293 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Interesting timing on the articles coming out. Still a year of the bid process left. I don't see this bid improving over the summer. I doubt the viewing numbers down south for Russia will be impressive to FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jith12 said: Remember, the article says that it is the city that said we will automatically qualify. That should be taken with a grain of salt as the staffers aren't soccer experts. It is possible that they just Googled "FIFA World Cup" and found that the hosts automatically qualify. They may not realize that a three team World Cup will probably have different regulations. The only confirmation that we should consider official should be from either the CSA, FIFA or the bid committee. Regardless, this is good progress. I agree it says the city said it, but the CBC ( writer ) should of pointed out that it wasn't confirmed yet. That's the point I was trying to make. I should of been clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It would be insane if we hosted and were not automatic qualifiers. Given the size of that WC, why on earth wouldn't we be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, admin said: It would be insane if we hosted and were not automatic qualifiers. Given the size of that WC, why on earth wouldn't we be? Then again, this is FIFA and the CSA put together. If anyone thinks that either of these organizations are acting in the best interests of the sport they are kidding themselves. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the CSA declines automatic qualification so that the boys can "gain experience" and then we flop out to Montserrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Jith12 said: Then again, this is FIFA and the CSA put together. If anyone thinks that either of these organizations are acting in the best interests of the sport they are kidding themselves. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the CSA declines automatic qualification so that the boys can "gain experience" and then we flop out to Montserrat. I can appreciate cynicism as much as the next person... but come on. Of course we will have automatic qualification. They did this for two hosts, they will do it for three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 55 minutes ago, admin said: I can appreciate cynicism as much as the next person... but come on. Of course we will have automatic qualification. They did this for two hosts, they will do it for three. This. I don’t even know why this is seriously even being questioned to this degree. Everyone chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 If we win the bid, we most likely get automatic advancement. But I still have more than 0 doubt because this is effectively the USA hosting with Canada and Mexico hosting a couple games. I could see them ruling that a country hosting only 12.5% of the tournament doesn’t warrant automatic qualification. Where do they draw the line? Can 8 countries bid together and each qualify automatically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kent said: If we win the bid, we most likely get automatic advancement. But I still have more than 0 doubt because this is effectively the USA hosting with Canada and Mexico hosting a couple games. I could see them ruling that a country hosting only 12.5% of the tournament doesn’t warrant automatic qualification. Where do they draw the line? Can 8 countries bid together and each qualify automatically? UEFA has made it clear that Euro 2020 (which will be hosted in 12 countries) will have no automatic qualification. Obviously this is much more than 3 hosts but the fact that we will only have 12.5% of the games leads to uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kent said: If we win the bid, we most likely get automatic advancement. But I still have more than 0 doubt because this is effectively the USA hosting with Canada and Mexico hosting a couple games. I could see them ruling that a country hosting only 12.5% of the tournament doesn’t warrant automatic qualification. Where do they draw the line? Can 8 countries bid together and each qualify automatically? Given the number of teams in the tournament from this point forward, this might be the new normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I'm curious to see how far into the tourney we will be hosting. Do we get to host into the round of 16? Also, I've never been a fan of three team groups (previous Gold Cups and the one and iirc only time it was used in a previous World Cup in 1982). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Kent said: If we win the bid, we most likely get automatic advancement. But I still have more than 0 doubt because this is effectively the USA hosting with Canada and Mexico hosting a couple games. I could see them ruling that a country hosting only 12.5% of the tournament doesn’t warrant automatic qualification. Where do they draw the line? Can 8 countries bid together and each qualify automatically? Well keep in mind that the spot(s) now come out of your regions allotment, not a bonus spot(s). That right there puts a cap on it to a certain extent. CONCACAF will have 6 spots, two of which would be almost certainly taken up by the US and Mexico anyway. So really the argument is should Canada get one of the other 4 spots. Given that we're hosting, I find it hard not to see us getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Kent said: If we win the bid, we most likely get automatic advancement. But I still have more than 0 doubt because this is effectively the USA hosting with Canada and Mexico hosting a couple games. I could see them ruling that a country hosting only 12.5% of the tournament doesn’t warrant automatic qualification. Where do they draw the line? Can 8 countries bid together and each qualify automatically? They would not accept an eight country bid in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The only real news source wrote a piece on us co-hosting and getting a spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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