jpg75 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Janeil didn't get dicked by the provincial team so that might be why he plays for us. Perhaps it is less about the dad and more to do with Junior and his view on soccer politics in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I heard about that as well, but the guy is approaching 25 and plays in the EPL. I find it hard to imagine him still holding a grudge from his teenage years.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fussball_eh Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Hoilett Sr. granted me an interview for Canucks Abroad but never got back to me when I followed up… I should ask again Maybe phrase a question like this: Is your son, Junior, going to play international football? Yes you should. Good idea :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 He'll get eaten alive by TFC fans if he ever signs. No he won't, I wish we could, but we won't, a lot of fans in the SS or even the rest of BMO just don't care about the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) No he won't, I wish we could, but we won't, a lot of fans in the SS or even the rest of BMO just don't care about the national team. I guarantee you that the SS would rip him up. 90% of hard cores at BMO support the national team (think back to WCQ). And I know people who sit all around the stadium who care about and attend Canada matches as well and they're well aware of Hoilett/JDG2. How many fans does it cause to stir something up? There would be at least 2 supporters groups immediately protesting against such a move and that would only snowball when people realized why. Edited January 29, 2015 by Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Janeil didn't get dicked by the provincial team so that might be why he plays for us. Perhaps it is less about the dad and more to do with Junior and his view on soccer politics in Canada? That was a long time and a hundred levels of soccer ago. I doubt a player of his calibre would hold such petty grudges. If, indeed, he DOES, though, that would be pretty immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 No point in holding grudges for any of these guys. Haven't we all made decisions because our parents told us to, or pressured us to, and then regretted it later? A guy like Hoilett is being praised as the "next" thing in EPL one day, and fighting relegation the next. His dad left Jamaica like so many others, looking for opportunity for family, and they find it in Canada. Some immigrants never really "leave" the old country and want to live vicariously through their kids, while others embrace their new homeland. For most, its likely a combination. We can never really guess the mix of influences, incentives, pride and prejudice that goes on in any one household. Then, sports are fickle. One day, Hoilett is the savior, the next day, he's a utility player. Best example of that was young Freddie Adu. I can't wait to see that Documentary of how his life played out, how his parents influenced his early decisions, and how it all went downhill. If JDG II never gets called up again for Holland (like dozens of other young players in that country), will he regret missing out on that opening to play for Canada? If Bosnia goes on to suck for years, we Begovic regret doing what his parents wanted and playing for his homeland? What I can say is that we seem to have a good coach on our side these days, well respected, and one who can help players improve. Players seems to want to play for him, and some decent results and performances (esp Colombia IMO) help to sow the seeds of hope. When these players choose to play for Canada, they can now at least be assured of good backing, structure, coaching, and maybe...just maybe...the chance to get a big payday at TFC! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 No he won't, I wish we could, but we won't, a lot of fans in the SS or even the rest of BMO just don't care about the national team. I guarantee you that the SS would rip him up. 90% of hard cores at BMO support the national team (think back to WCQ). And I know people who sit all around the stadium who care about and attend Canada matches as well and they're well aware of Hoilett/JDG2. How many fans does it cause to stir something up? There would be at least 2 supporters groups immediately protesting against such a move and that would only snowball when people realized why. I tend to agree with Zeelaw here, if JH suited up for Jamaica then signed with TFC or vice versa there would be a little complaining from some of the supporters but they would be in the minority! Most of these same TFC supporters could care less that there probably won't be a Canadian on the pitch for the team this season in fact many that I know find it cool to slag our Canadians, I get slated and ridiculed for defending them in fact! This season I won't have to bother, besides the odd game off the bench by Osorio,there will be no Canadian contribution at TFC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Someone should do an academic study as to why Canadians are self-loathing when it comes to international sports. Seriously, it is quite an interesting phenomena. It blows my mind how quickly Canadians will brand their own as losers, as if this somehow disassociates them from the failure. Isn't it strange to see Canadians, who watch and grew up playing soccer, view it as weird to support Canadian soccer? Canadians are such bandwagoners. I am glad to be part of the minority. I have a hard time imagining a similar situation occuring anywhere else in the footballing world. Edited January 29, 2015 by Obinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fussball_eh Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Someone should do an academic study as to why Canadians are self-loathing when it comes to international sports. Seriously, it is quite an interesting phenomena. It blows my mind how quickly Canadians will brand their own as losers, as if this somehow disassociates them from the failure. Isn't it strange to see Canadians, who watch and grew up playing soccer, view it as weird to support Canadian soccer? Canadians are such bandwagoners. I am glad to be part of the minority. I have a hard time imagining a similar situation occuring anywhere else in the footballing world. You're right, it really is an odd phenomenon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 It looks like Hoilett is one step closer to moving on: http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/football-wls-qpr-man-left-out-of-squad-ahead-of-expected-move-derby-county-interested Cue the "I won't play international football until I'm settled at my new club" lines already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Derby County? Owned by Whitecaps owner Jeff Mallett. Whitecaps hate Canada. Junior will play for Jamaica confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I doubt he plays for Jamaica. The well of England C team players is running dry and they haven't looked that good lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditty Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It looks like Hoilett is one step closer to moving on: http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/football-wls-qpr-man-left-out-of-squad-ahead-of-expected-move-derby-county-interested Cue the "I won't play international football until I'm settled at my new club" lines already! Gladbach is also interested http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/qpr/transfer-talk/news/gladbach-make-hoilett-enquiry_201996.html Gladbach is also interested http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/qpr/transfer-talk/news/gladbach-make-hoilett-enquiry_201996.html Gladbach were rumoured to be in the mix when he moved from Blackburn to QPR. Money aside, this is actually a move up in, IMO. Gladbach are in the mix for a CL spot. He'll definitely have lots of competition in the attacking mid spots, though. Don't see him better than guys like Herrmann, Hahn and Traore. But Gladbach are also in the knockout stages of the EL, so I can see why they're interested in adding Junior for depth at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Gladbach were rumoured to be in the mix when he moved from Blackburn to QPR. Money aside, this is actually a move up in, IMO. Gladbach are in the mix for a CL spot. He'll definitely have lots of competition in the attacking mid spots, though. Don't see him better than guys like Herrmann, Hahn and Traore. But Gladbach are also in the knockout stages of the EL, so I can see why they're interested in adding Junior for depth at least. Don't know if it is happening anymore because Hoilett is in the gameday squad for QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 They may feature him for a game to show that he's still useful; but that doesn't mean he's not going to be transferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Seeing the twitter comments by QPR fans they really don't like Hoilett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 "Toilett". I believe his name is actually "Toilett". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 If anyone happened to see the QPR match today, Hoilett did come off the bench in the 2nd half and played his usual match, he missed a gaping open net by taking an extra touch and allowing the defender to make a desperation block! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Junior, Canada's time is now. Pledge your allegiance or forget about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) ^I bet if we go back through the 66 now pages of this thread, that different versions of this comment have been said quite a few times before. There are those who will say "screw him, he already had his chance" and guys that will say 2 years from now "he used to play in the Premier League, we can never turn down talent" (note that I'm assuming in 2 years he won't be in the Premier League) Even if we qualified for Russia, and Toilett tried to bandwagon jump to us, there would be some that would still welcome him saying to bring the most talented squad possible. (in that scenario, I certainly would NOT be one of them) From MY perspective? I agree...now is like a last chance kind of time for him to win me, over...but that's just me, personally Edited March 13, 2015 by madmonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 What ever happened to the report Gerry Dobson had about him anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 What ever happened to the report Gerry Dobson had about him anyway... I believe that was in December and we're still a ways off from games of consequence so it could still be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) I tend to agree with Zeelaw here, if JH suited up for Jamaica then signed with TFC or vice versa there would be a little complaining from some of the supporters but they would be in the minority! Most of these same TFC supporters could care less that there probably won't be a Canadian on the pitch for the team this season in fact many that I know find it cool to slag our Canadians, I get slated and ridiculed for defending them in fact! This season I won't have to bother, besides the odd game off the bench by Osorio,there will be no Canadian contribution at TFC! The south end would be vocal like Keegan said. As for your little problem, you should line up all the individuals you see exhibiting these Canadian slagging tendencies and punch them each on the noses. Edited March 14, 2015 by Macksam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 The south end would be vocal like Keegan said. As for your little problem, you should line up all the individuals you see exhibiting these Canadian slagging tendencies and punch them each on the noses. I'm wondering if the supporters will have a Banner for Vitoria if he hasn't committed to Canada when Philly rolls to town. They have one for Teal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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