TGAA_Star Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, lamptern said: If 12 groups of 4 teams was the plan, then: The change would make a huge difference in the amount of games at the World Cup, with 64 matches in Qatar going up to 104 across North America. It would also last 35 days, instead of the current 28, and see teams have to play eight matches to win the entire tournament, instead of the previous seven. Then either way I would still welcome that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamptern Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 After some proposal digging, I found this: https://www.natgoldc.com/2026 This unique format is almost perfect considering: seven Ideal Tournament Criteria after putting everything together: ⚖️ Preserves competitive integrity 📣 Prioritizes entertainment value 3️⃣ Guarantees at least 3 games per team 🍎 Uses apples to apples comparisons 🗓 Fits within the existing World Cup calendar window ⛑ Protects players’ health 🏟 Adds no more extra matches than the host nation(s) can successfully accommodate 104 matches in 32 days, 4 more host cities, tons of extra revenue, no collusion in a 3 team group……I can’t find a plan better than this so far if FIFA wants to keep 16 groups to accommodate European teams evenly. TGAA_Star, Free kick, TOcanadafan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Granted there will be 48 teams regardless, the better way to increase the number of teams was 8 groups of 5, so you're adding only eight more teams. But that would really increase the number of games overall, and more importantly would lengthen the tournament and mean it takes more games to win it. Clubs don't like that. Ultimately, the groups of three means it takes the same number of games to win the trophy, which keeps the same burden on the players. But man, groups of three really suck. I predict lots of handshake-draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Ram Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 22 hours ago, xabuep2 said: Hopefully the format of the 2026 World Cup will change to 12 groups of 4 countries, as has been discussed. So Canada would play at least 2 games in BC and one in BMO. The format of groups of 3 sucks. Yep especially with the last group game has the potential to be fix or gentleman agreement in order both teams to advance. Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 12:43 PM, lamptern said: After some proposal digging, I found this: https://www.natgoldc.com/2026 This unique format is almost perfect considering: seven Ideal Tournament Criteria after putting everything together: ⚖️ Preserves competitive integrity 📣 Prioritizes entertainment value 3️⃣ Guarantees at least 3 games per team 🍎 Uses apples to apples comparisons 🗓 Fits within the existing World Cup calendar window ⛑ Protects players’ health 🏟 Adds no more extra matches than the host nation(s) can successfully accommodate 104 matches in 32 days, 4 more host cities, tons of extra revenue, no collusion in a 3 team group……I can’t find a plan better than this so far if FIFA wants to keep 16 groups to accommodate European teams evenly. This would be a fair way to do the groups of 3 and get rid of the stupid ‘best 3rd place’ finishers… I like it. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 12:43 PM, lamptern said: After some proposal digging, I found this: https://www.natgoldc.com/2026 This unique format is almost perfect considering: seven Ideal Tournament Criteria after putting everything together: ⚖️ Preserves competitive integrity 📣 Prioritizes entertainment value 3️⃣ Guarantees at least 3 games per team 🍎 Uses apples to apples comparisons 🗓 Fits within the existing World Cup calendar window ⛑ Protects players’ health 🏟 Adds no more extra matches than the host nation(s) can successfully accommodate 104 matches in 32 days, 4 more host cities, tons of extra revenue, no collusion in a 3 team group……I can’t find a plan better than this so far if FIFA wants to keep 16 groups to accommodate European teams evenly. This is an excellent idea. Really like it. Between this and the matchvision format, there is no shortage of solutions. People just need to psychologically detach themselves from the concept of groups. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: This is an excellent idea. Really like it. Between this and the matchvision format, there is no shortage of solutions. People just need to psychologically detach themselves from the concept of groups. True. When one expands their thought process and stops thinking in terms groups, there are many possibilities. One major flaw with that system (that they overlooked) is the fourth bullet point in the following: So what happens if one group is much stronger than the other and wins all the games against teams in the other group? Or even if it's a little bit stronger than the other group and wins most of the game? If group B is much stronger than group A (for example) then you could have a case whereby a team from group A (or both teams from group A) advances to the knockout stage without winning a single game. Equally, a team from group B could be eliminated and have to go home and have to see a team that they defeated from group "A" advancing. **** But this got me thinking of a system that might work. Its leverages from the matchvision system. If, instead of thinking of groups, groups, and groups all the time. You could set up a WC draw for each team to have three matches. Each of your opponents would be from a different pot (ie.: we now have POT 1, 2, 3 & 4 teams) and you obviously wouldn't face an opponent from your own pot. So everybody gets three matches guaranteed, obviously you wouldn't be able (or allowed) to face the same opponent twice. Basically, instead of a draw to assign teams to groups, you have three draws for match opponents in Match Day 1, 2, and 3 of the now hypothetical group stage. When everyone has played three matches, Then you rank all 48 teams based on record and applying the usual tie breakers that they apply now plus a few new ones (eg.: goals in open play). Now you stick the top 16 or 32 teams in the knockout brackets based on overall standing after 3 matches. This might even be more fair than what they have now with 32 teams. EDIT.: I just realized after watching the video that the Matchvision format is more or less what mentioned. So I should have been responding/replying to @lamptern post instead. Edited October 11, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 12:43 PM, lamptern said: After some proposal digging, I found this: https://www.natgoldc.com/2026 This unique format is almost perfect considering: seven Ideal Tournament Criteria after putting everything together: ⚖️ Preserves competitive integrity 📣 Prioritizes entertainment value 3️⃣ Guarantees at least 3 games per team 🍎 Uses apples to apples comparisons 🗓 Fits within the existing World Cup calendar window ⛑ Protects players’ health 🏟 Adds no more extra matches than the host nation(s) can successfully accommodate 104 matches in 32 days, 4 more host cities, tons of extra revenue, no collusion in a 3 team group……I can’t find a plan better than this so far if FIFA wants to keep 16 groups to accommodate European teams evenly. I can actually support this now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimSandberg56 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) These are some highly crucial and competitive matches in the World cup, I am looking forward to stream26th November 2022 England vs USA26th November 2022 France vs Denmark27th November 2022 Argentina vs Mexico28th November 2022 Spain vs Germany29th November 2022 Portugal vs Uruguay30th November 2022 Wales vs England1st December 2022 Croatia vs Belgiumyou guys can directly stream these important matches live online Edited October 17, 2022 by TimSandberg56 wrong date written Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Here are the first specific predictions I've seen, he seems to hold Canada with some esteem by predicting these scores. Maybe more than ourselves: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Some tidbits from FIFA's 1 month to go press conference: Infantino: Everything is ready. Everybody is welcome. Media: 12k+ media expected. 78 media rights holders. Media centre will house VAR. 2.7k non-accredited media for non-match coverage. Pitch: All stadiums have grow lights, sub air system, hybrid stitching, 74 pitches in tournament footprint. 700 groundskeepers. Team Base camps for the first time will be decorated in team colours. Japan will be the first team to arrive on Nov. 7. 420k applied to be volunteers from 209 nationalities. 20k were chosen of which 89% live in Qatar. 85% have already been trained. 90 fan activation centres. Al Bidda Park in central Doha will show all matches with 40k capacity. lamptern, johnyb, Free kick and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Not sure why this thread was moved to the Qatar sub- forum. Edited October 21, 2022 by narduch TGAA_Star and Free kick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCrTFC Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 It should be two eagles and goose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, narduch said: Not sure why this thread was moved to the Qatar sub- forum. I have been wondering the same. What did it need to be moved out from the forum where it was? What does this (2026 WC) have to do with Qatar 2022? Edited October 22, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 6:38 PM, narduch said: Not sure why this thread was moved to the Qatar sub- forum. I love this logo plus the mascots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 We had a lengthy discussion in here about the quality of each region, under/over representation, etc. The AFC has now had the first host nation to not win it's opening match, and Qatar was absolutely dreadful while doing it. I'll continue to maintain that the AFC is secretly very terrible and despite their claims are actually over represented in the World Cup already. Kusch to the Corner, Free kick and TGAA_Star 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Watchmen said: We had a lengthy discussion in here about the quality of each region, under/over representation, etc. The AFC has now had the first host nation to not win it's opening match, and Qatar was absolutely dreadful while doing it. I'll continue to maintain that the AFC is secretly very terrible and despite their claims are actually over represented in the World Cup already. Yeah but for 2026 they get 8 teams potential for a 9th team via Inter confederation playoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamptern Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Watchmen said: We had a lengthy discussion in here about the quality of each region, under/over representation, etc. The AFC has now had the first host nation to not win it's opening match, and Qatar was absolutely dreadful while doing it. I'll continue to maintain that the AFC is secretly very terrible and despite their claims are actually over represented in the World Cup already. Should be “not win or draw”. By the way, I agree AFC is over represented. Infantino was desperate to get China/India in. Watchmen, Free kick, Ivan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, lamptern said: Should be “not win or draw”. By the way, I agree AFC is over represented. Infantino was desperate to get China/India in. Well China haven't been to a World Cup in over 20 years since 2002 so I can see why AFC got more spots but for India they have never qualified but 2026 they do have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, TGAA_Star said: Yeah but for 2026 they get 8 teams potential for a 9th team via Inter confederation playoff I know, and the increase in the tournament probably dictates it. But the AFC was complaining back in 2002 about "not enough spots" and they've never justified it. TGAA_Star and Cheeta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimSandberg56 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 10/17/2022 at 10:58 AM, TimSandberg56 said: These are some highly crucial and competitive matches in the World cup, I am looking forward to stream26th November 2022 England vs USA26th November 2022 France vs Denmark27th November 2022 Argentina vs Mexico28th November 2022 Spain vs Germany29th November 2022 Portugal vs Uruguay30th November 2022 Wales vs England1st December 2022 Croatia vs Belgiumyou guys can directly stream these important matches live online The matches are becoming crucial, I was looking for options but got a superb black friday deal just came up with a crazy price of $1.33. BBC iPlayer runs smother via vpn. Highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Really hoping Infantino decides that it will be 4 team groups with 12 groups of 4 teams and top 2 advance into the Round of 32 because then that way you avoid collusion in 3 team groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Another 4 year wait to get back to the World Cup but saving grace we are hosting it in our backyard but with that in mind it begs the question of where this team goes from here. Or who do we bring in because if Herdman is gone, then who to replace him as manager? Or if he stays, which players come into the team as a part of the new generation heading into 2026? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 TSN showing again why I'm glad OneSoccer exists: Bison44, nolando, A.D.I.D.A.S. and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, mpg_29 said: TSN showing again why I'm glad OneSoccer exists: TSN going to fire all their soccer commentators in a few weeks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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