NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)

[1998]

Newbie here to international football, how much would someone get paid to play in a Hungary 3rd tier league?  Croatia 3rd tier?  Thanks.

[shamrock]

7 hours ago, 1998 said:

Newbie here to international football, how much would someone get paid to play in a Hungary 3rd tier league?  Croatia 3rd tier?  Thanks.

They don't. At best they get a place to stay and some meals. 

[1998]

Thank you for your response.

[jpg75]

22 hours ago, 1998 said:

Newbie here to international football, how much would someone get paid to play in a Hungary 3rd tier league?  Croatia 3rd tier?  Thanks.

Can't say for sure, but starting as low as 2nd division in the Balkans they are paid under the table (cash) on a per game basis. This could be happening in the leagues you are asking about. A per diem for food might also get paid as Shamrock mentioned. In France in the 50's and 60's good lower division players were sometimes given jobs in local businesses owned by the club owner or his friends, this could also be a perk for the leagues you're enquiring about. Hope that helps.

[Unnamed Trialist]

On 10/12/2018 at 3:02 PM, 1998 said:

Newbie here to international football, how much would someone get paid to play in a Hungary 3rd tier league?  Croatia 3rd tier?  Thanks.

Most likely lower than Canadian minimum wage, sorry to say.

If it were not for an apartment from the club, most would not be able to do it. 

Only exceptions are those clubs who have money and/or history and fan base, and are trying to promote for sure into the 2nd tier. 

Most 2nd tiers in Europe pay a proper salary, most third tiers apart from say the better 6-7 leagues are very tight financially. 

[Fussball_eh]

On 10/9/2018 at 4:12 PM, Fussball_eh said:

I hope it's fine to post the following message here. If you believe it doesn't belong on the V forum please let me know and I will ask the admins to remove it.

After many years of running Canucks Abroad and this thread with a small team of dedicated volunteers (that include many Voyageurs) I have decided to launch our project on Patreon. Basically it's just an opportunity for stakeholders who use our services to give back financially to compensate us for the countless hours we have invested in keeping the database up to date and the twitter monster fed.

Feel free to check out our Patreon page here: . Please note the database  "Mother Of All Canadians Abroad List" will remain intact, and it's the exact same one we use on our website.

We've also updated www.canucks-abroad.ca recently if that's of interest. Some of you have heard that we launched a #CanPL discord a while ago. It's a little thriving community, feel free to check it out as well.

Happy tracking and see you next Tuesday!

Did a little writeup about what all that means. It was nice meeting many of you in Toronto yesterday. See you at the next game!

[Toje]

Kellyann Kande was signed with Bruno's Magies FC in the Gibraltar 2nd tier.  Dimitriu  is another Canadian who is with Magpies.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-magpies/startseite/verein/43032/saison_id/2018

Screenshot from their last match.

Edited October 18, 2018 by Toje

[Fussball_eh]

We are currently looking for a dedicated volunteer to cover the French-speaking world to start, and possibly PLSQ (not required). If anyone wants to dedicate a lot of their time, and get little more than positive karma in return, please DM me ;).

[Toje]

Just an update on Alessandro Hojabrpour.  He played for the 1st team of Plovdiv in one or two friendlies this past summer and scored at least one goal.  

Since the season began, he has been playing for the U19 side. 

 

Edited October 25, 2018 by Toje

[jordan]

Theodor Corbeanu officially at Wolves now

 

 

[Blackjack15]

Former TFC II & Youth International Luca Uccello signs with USL Side Memphis for 2019

A Guy that should have stayed in Canada for CPL

[JasonDias]

Lucas Dias former Toronto Sporting FC academy player and now Sporting CP academy player has been called up to represent Portugal's sub-15 team. @Fussball_eh your website has him listed as a defender. He often plays the false 9 position on Sporting's U-15. Occasionally, a winger as well. 

Source: He's my godfather's son. You can find his name littered in the Portuguese media here in Toronto.

[Big_M]

Mississauga MetroStars officially announce Babouli signing and invite Rahman brothers and Stergiotis, a gk who played in greek 2nd tier, to training camp. They also have Becic a gk who played in croatian 2nd tier

https://www.mississaugametrostars.ca/news/mississauga-metrostars-sign-former-toronto-fc-forw

[Joe MacCarthy]

On 10/2/2015 at 11:02 PM, rob.notenboom said:

How was the original decision on the format for the MOACA made? Was it simply the best format that could be found at the time or were there other reasons given for it to be in that format? I'm afraid my tenure around here doesn't extend back long enough to know how it all came about.

This is the link where the Moaca began to change  from the start it was given by CdnSupporter at BigSoccer, to my wanting to clarify it more.

The above evolved into this

Found the list on the other board. Looks like G-L had the idea before I did.

Edited November 4, 2018 by Joe MacCarthy

[Toje]

Here is a list from June 2000 - www.canadian-soccer.com

England (13)

 Pos.        Name                         Club                      Level           Div.

 

GK MF FW DF MF MF DF DF DF FW MF MF GK

Craig Forrest Terry Dunfield Paul Peschisolido Jim Brennan Gordon Chin Ian Hume Mark Watson Marc Bircham Mark Rogers Carlo Corazzin Kevin Sharpe Mike Klukowski Dennis Kindel

West Ham United Manchester City Fulham Nottingham Forest Portsmouth Tranmere Rovers Oxford United Millwall Wycombe Wanderers Northampton Town Wigan Athletic Doncaster Rovers Doncaster Rovers

First Team Reserves First Team First Team Youth First Team First Team First Team First Team First Team First Team Youth Youth

Premier Premier 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 Conf. Conf.

Scotland (10)

 

MF GK DF FW MF FW DF DF MF FW

Nick Dasovic Pat Onstad Jason de Vos Emilio Botiglieri Russel Huggon Niall Thompson Paul Fenwick Richard Hastings David Xausa Simon Vickers

St. Johnstone Dundee United Dundee United Hibernian Hibernian Airdrieonians Raith Rovers Inverness Caley Thistle Inverness Caley Thistle Clyde

First Team First Team First Team Reserves Reserves First Team First Team First Team First Team First Team

Premier Premier Premier Premier Premier 1 1 1 1 1

United States (15)

 

MN MF MF FW DF DF GK DF DF FW DF FW FW MF GK

Frank Yallop Geoff Aunger Jason Bent Alex Bunbury Chaka Daley Gilbert Jean-Baptiste Greg Sutton Jeff Clarke Carl Fletcher Grant Needham Randy Samuel Dwayne de Rosario Steve Kindel Carmine Isaaco Martin Nash

DC United DC United Colorado Kansas City Boston Charleston Cincinatti Hampton Rds Hampton Rds Hampton Rds Hampton Rds Richmond Richmond Rochester Rochester

MLS MLS MLS MLS A-League A-League A-League A-League A-League A-League A-League A-League A-League A-League A-League

Portugal (3)

 

MF MF DF

Nilton Terroso Fernando Aguiar Bruno Oliveira de Xavier

Sporting Lisbon Beira Mar Amora

Reserves First Team First Team

I I II B South

Germany (7)

 

MF MF FW FW GK GK DF

Owen Hargreaves Nicholas Blicharski Jeremy Sheppard Paul Stalteri Wojtek Zarzycki Lars Hirschfeld Kevin McKenna

Bayern Munich Hertha Berlin Hertha Berlin Werder Bremen Werder Bremen Energie Cottbus Energie Cottbus

First Team Youth Youth First Team Youth Reserves First Team

1 1 1 1 1 1 1

Netherlands (2)

 

GK DF

Mike Franks Brad Parker

PSV Feyenoord

Reserves First Team

Honour Honour

France (3)

 

MF MF -

Julian de Guzman Orlin Chalmers Serge Epoh

Olympique Marseille Cannes Olympique des Aves

Youth Youth -

1 2 -

Belgium (2)

 

FW FW

Tomasz Radzinski Garret Kusch

RSC Anderlecht KV Mechelen

First Team Reserves

1 1

Former Yugoslavia (3)

 

MF - FW

Ante Jazic Josip Bucic Igor Prostran

Hajduk Split Hajduk Split FK Rad

First Team Youth -

Croatia 1 Croatia 1 Serbia 1

Elsewhere in Europe (7)

 

- MF MF FW FW MF DF

Tom Rajabzadeh Jason Mathot Rocco Placentino Gaspare Borselino Vladimir Edouard Daniel Imoff Milan Kojic

SC Eisenstadt BSV Blad Bleiberg Foggia Portenza Campo Basso St Gallen Vasalund EF

Reserves - First Team - - First Team -

Austria 3 Austria Italy C2 Italy Italy Switzerland A Sweden 1

South America & Asia (2)

 

DF MF

Anthony Santos Menezes Velimir Crljen

Botafogo Rio Armed Forces

First Team First Team

Brazil Singapore 1

[rob.notenboom]

57 minutes ago, Joe MacCarthy said:

This is the link where the Moaca began to change  from the start it was given by CdnSupporter at BigSoccer, to my wanting to clarify it more.

The above evolved into this

Found the list on the other board. Looks like G-L had the idea before I did.

Wow. This is a blast from the past. 

[jordan]

I may have to load up Championship Manager 01/02 up looking at that list.

Looks Like Terroso was in charge of Olhanense last year.

 

Blicharski and Sheppard disappeared, as many of the youth from that era did.

[Joe MacCarthy]

2 hours ago, jordan said:

Blicharski and Sheppard disappeared, as many of the youth from that era did.

When I kept the list, I still maintained a list of players who disappeared off this list.  People would be amazed at how many there were and some would post that we didn't have enough quality players to start a Canadian league.  I never worried about that.

There was one player (not on the list above) that I seem to recall Holger was very high on, Kerr McLeod (playing in Holland IIRC).  He was supposed to be the next big thing, wonder what happened to him.

[aloyol]

2 minutes ago, Joe MacCarthy said:

When I kept the list, I still maintained a list of players who disappeared off this list.  People would be amazed at how many there were and some would post that we didn't have enough quality players to start a Canadian league.  I never worried about that.

There was one player (not on the list above) that I seem to recall Holger was very high on, Kerr McLeod (playing in Holland IIRC).  He was supposed to be the next big thing, wonder what happened to him.

I don't remember that name but I remember Brad Parker who was playing in Holland and disappeared after being with Feyenoord youth club. He was a big prospect for us. He got some MNT caps at 18-19 years old.

[Admin]

4 minutes ago, aloyol said:

I don't remember that name but I remember Brad Parker who was playing in Holland and disappeared after being with Feyenoord youth club. He was a big prospect for us. He got some MNT caps at 18-19 years old.

Wait, who was the guy at Stevenage then.... ended up in an FA Cup tie, I had to pay $20 to get into a legion that was putting it on TV on Kingsway.

* Looking back I can now appreciate how insane people thought I was.

 

[Joe MacCarthy]

8 minutes ago, aloyol said:

I don't remember that name but I remember Brad Parker who was playing in Holland and disappeared after being with Feyenoord youth club. He was a big prospect for us. He got some MNT caps at 18-19 years old.

He refused callups and was the eponymous victim of the Brad Parker curse.  Misfortune would fall on anyone who refused callups (until the Ho)

[ray]

1 hour ago, admin said:

Wait, who was the guy at Stevenage then.... ended up in an FA Cup tie, I had to pay $20 to get into a legion that was putting it on TV on Kingsway.

* Looking back I can now appreciate how insane people thought I was.

 

Khaska Walker? 

Ah, those were the days!  Dark days for Canadian soccer, but still fondly remembered.

[Joe MacCarthy]

15 minutes ago, ray said:

Ah, those were the days!  Dark days for Canadian soccer, but still fondly remembered.

Did you create a Canadians Abroad list long ago at a website.  Seems to me one of the earliest was from someone named Ray, I could be wrong.

[Joe MacCarthy]

1 hour ago, admin said:

Wait, who was the guy at Stevenage then.... ended up in an FA Cup tie

Mark Rogers?

[Admin]

14 minutes ago, Joe MacCarthy said:

Mark Rogers?

No, doesn't sound right. 

Damn, this is bugging me now.