Alex Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Has Arfield made any comment on this at all? Do we even know if he wants any part of playing for us? The only reports I have seen say that Canada has been reaching out. If he does come over here I would welcome him with open arms. Doesn't matter to me of he's ever been here or not, if he's allowed to play, he plays. I'll cheer my ass off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 It's fun when Marc Bircham, a player who retired internationally for Canada because he wasn't playing for us is considered as a god by some people on here. It was a nice story, but to say that he was more benefical than 90% of Canadian internationals is ludicrous. He was an okay player, and he drank beers in Kingston with a couple of V's, but that doesn't make him a god like Keegan has said. I do think that Arfield is trying to get called by Scotland by reaching Canada. I don't know if he's geniounely interested in our program. If he is, he just has to file his one-time switch and I'll believe him. Until then, meh. Is God a synonym for Canadian? Because I never said that, nor have I seen anyone on this forum call Bircham a god and I also didn't even bring up that story about Kingston but that's cool. I guess saying someone is good for something equates to worshipping them as a god, I'll try to choose my words more carefully. If Bircham is a god I have more gods than Greek mythology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Is God a synonym for Canadian? (THUMBS-UP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Quality comments you two. Well done fellas, well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Is God a synonym for Canadian? Because I never said that, nor have I seen anyone on this forum call Bircham a god and I also didn't even bring up that story about Kingston but that's cool. I guess saying someone is good for something equates to worshipping them as a god, I'll try to choose my words more carefully. If Bircham is a god I have more gods than Greek mythology. Ok, but he wasn't a top 10% of Canadian players. PErhaps it was an easy sophism, but I stand by the point that Bircham wasn't a top 10% of Canadian players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 If a guy wants to play for Canada, or decides to play for Canada because he was passed over, and works his hardest while wearing the maple leaf, I have no problem with that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Ok, but he wasn't a top 10% of Canadian players. PErhaps it was an easy sophism, but I stand by the point that Bircham wasn't a top 10% of Canadian players. That's fair, my argument is that as a coach he is a valuable asset and has been able to influence Canadian soccer positively and not many Canadian players do that after retirement. He is one of what, 7 pro coaches? Yallop, Watson, Dasovic, Miller, MDS, Marcina, Bircham. Edit: 8, I forgot about Peschisolido. Edited April 3, 2015 by Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Its probably someone in Arnfield's camp trying to force Scotland's hand into calling him up. We are all getting in a tizzy about a 10 word blurb/rumor, I'd like to see something more concrete. Then lets have the Aird, Vittoria, Hoilett, Akendele, Ethan Findly, who is Canadian argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 That's fair, my argument is that as a coach he is a valuable asset and has been able to influence Canadian soccer positively and not many Canadian players do that after retirement. He is one of what, 7 pro coaches? Yallop, Watson, Dasovic, Miller, MDS, Marcina, Bircham. Edit: 8, I forgot about Peschisolido. Rob Friend has a 5 year-old son that was ripping up U6 this year in North Van. If his son goes on to play for Canada, does that make Rob a top 10% player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Rob Friend has a 5 year-old son that was ripping up U6 this year in North Van. If his son goes on to play for Canada, does that make Rob a top 10% player? He already is. Canadian Tower, baby! Edited April 3, 2015 by Obinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Have to imagine Bircham also had a hand in bringing Petrasso and Careiro to QPR as well, another benefit from bringing him on board back in the day. It would be nice to hold ourselves to higher standards than Germany and Portugal, but we don't have that luxury. Bob, surely you must get tired of jetting around the continent watching us lose? It's an interesting novelty, but after a while I'd take a few extra points here and there even if it meant calling up the equivalent of the foreign guest-worker program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Bob, surely you must get tired of jetting around the continent watching us lose? It's an interesting novelty, but after a while I'd take a few extra points here and there even if it meant calling up the equivalent of the foreign guest-worker program.I don't enjoy losses, but I enjoy jetting around the continent watching the men and women who represent my country. If they're just "some guys", I won't care if they win any more than I care about the Portuguese jai alai team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Fair enough. I'd take the odd "mercenary" like Spain with Diego Costa if it allows those remaining 10 men who "truly" represent the country to do so at a higher level. I always say in these cases it should be up to the players as a group. I feel like they'd be pissed and actually play worse if they knew the team wasn't what it could be, because a supporters' group (who, unlike the players, have no financial interest in how well the team does) disagreed as to what made a player Canadian enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Why would any player play worse on purpose because the team COULD be better? Doesn't that go against the very being of a professional athlete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghonj Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I guess we should just focus on Aboriginal players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I guess we should just focus on Aboriginal players. Oh do explain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Oh do explain! Theyre the only players who are native to this land. Everyone else is some sort of immigrant down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 That's a rather odd view. Nobody in this thread is ragging on immigrants anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Theyre the only players who are native to this land. Everyone else is some sort of immigrant down the line. Aboriginals were the first immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Aboriginals were the first immigrants. This statement is ridiculous. Better keep the talk just on football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 This statement is ridiculous. Better keep the talk just on football... So you disagree that they came to the America's 20 000 years ago across the Siberian ice bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 So you disagree that they came to the America's 20 000 years ago across the Siberian ice bridge? I think the point is we can hardly keep it civil when we talk soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think the point is we can hardly keep it civil when we talk soccer. I agree and my statement was made semi-facetiously, but now i'm interested why my factually correct statement is "ridiculous". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Please don't ruin this thread for me! I came here for footy talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Please don't ruin this thread for me! I came here for footy talk +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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