Toronto CPL

[GuillermoDelQuarto]

2 hours ago, yellowsweatygorilla said:

Please no military-based names. And given the history/politics of the Canadian military, especially when you are going back to earlier histories of displacement ... we're really wading into difficult territory.

mm  yea probably a good point.

[Rheo]

Some folks on Twitter excited about this in Mississauga.  Not really CPL related but interesting for sure

https://www.insauga.com/new-soccer-field-coming-to-city-centre

[Rocket Robin]

Redcoats?   And what would be the team colours?  

How would they be different than TFC?    Hey are those fans dressed in red our fans or our (at least Voyageurs Cup) rivals?   

 

[Fort York Redcoat1555362293]

On 6/13/2017 at 10:30 AM, Complete Homer said:

Helps to avoid calling it Tier 2 in the first place

Well this will be a topic issue from now on as to how to describe it. We can't ostrich our way out of how casuals will want to simplify structure.

I have the greatest respect for this leagues endeavor.

Edited June 16, 2017 by Fort York Redcoat

[johnluckpickherd]

Duke of York for Friday, June 30th, 6:30-8:00 PM has been booked for our pre-match pub before League One action at Varsity Stadium (North Mississauga v. North Toronto)

Hope to see you folks out!

https://www.facebook.com/events/308276056281543/?acontext={"ref"%3A"4"%2C"feed_story_type"%3A"308"%2C"action_history"%3A"null"}

[matty]

Anyone find it kind of cute that Cafe Diplomatico seems to be trying to become the Toronto CPL HQ?

Seriously who here runs their Twitter?

Edited June 25, 2017 by matty

[GuillermoDelQuarto]

7 hours ago, matty said:

Anyone find it kind of cute that Cafe Diplomatico seems to be trying to become the Toronto CPL HQ?

Seriously who here runs their Twitter?

that's good though, really.  

The more publicity the better

[Gopherbashi]

8 hours ago, matty said:

Anyone find it kind of cute that Cafe Diplomatico seems to be trying to become the Toronto CPL HQ?

Seriously who here runs their Twitter?

Are they still at it?

[johnluckpickherd]

We've started a new twitter account! Check us out at @Toronto_CPLSG

[mpg_29]

what's this about?..

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianPL/comments/6ndbb4/italian_article_about_the_canadian_premier_league/dk8rwru/

 

[Zem]

31 minutes ago, mpg_29 said:

what's this about?..

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianPL/comments/6ndbb4/italian_article_about_the_canadian_premier_league/dk8rwru/

 

Assuming the translation's correct, a lot of the details sound like bullshit or at the very least the authors don't really understand where the league is at, but i suppose it doesn't eliminate the possibility that the group is real. The article states that the CPL will be "like MLS" and claims that the league will start next spring and will have a draft for Canadian players in January or February. Probably the most sketchy thing about the article is that it claims the Toronto club will play at BMO Field.

Federico Turriziani, who is currently the director of Empire Canada Soccer Academy is supposedly going to be "guiding" the group. He has a UEFA B licence and was once an assistant coach with Empoli, a youth coach with Cesena, a youth coach with York Region Shooters and head coach of Katane Soccer, a farm club of Atalanta. He was most recently head coach of Centese Calcio in Italy (a tier 7 amateur club) before taking the academy job last year.

Frankly Turriziani doesn't sound like a very notable figure and the article doesn't mention any of the actual owners, so I'm pretty skeptical. It kind of sounds to me like the writers heard "the league will be like MLS" and extrapolated from there. The article also talks about a lot of things regarding the league that we know are still uncertain (from Beirne's recent interview) as if they were basically set in stone.

Edited July 15, 2017 by Zem

[yellowsweatygorilla]

There's also this: https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/resto-del-mondo/esclusiva-tmw-canadian-premier-league-turriziani-contatti-con-toronto-983394

 

seems kind of strange? Argos involvement doesn't make much sense....

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

This is part of what Google Translate provides for that link:

The project began officially on May 6, 2017, at the time confirmed affiliations are Hamilton and Winnipeg. But even Vancouver, Calgary, and Ottawa think of forming a professional football team. Like Toronto, but not through the second team of "Giovinco" franchise. The idea of the league, in fact, is to have no youth teams or club club reserves that militate in MLS. And Toronto could be represented by the Argonauts, Canadian football franchise. And just in Toronto could train an Italian, Federico Turriziani, who overseas drives the Empire Canada Soccer Academy: "It's true, there were contacts. The new situation could come to fruition as well as jump. Canadian football, I had an interview with the Argonauts: they are interested in having me as a coach. "

Looks to me like a way for Federico Turrizani to remind people in Italy that he is still alive and make them think he might be worth hiring there. What he doesn't seem to realize is that the Argos are owned by 2/3rds of TFC's ownership, so are not likely to be in the market for a rival soccer team to TFC.

Edited July 15, 2017 by BringBackTheBlizzard

[mpg_29]

2 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

This is what google translate provides:

The project began officially on May 6, 2017, at the time confirmed affiliations are Hamilton and Winnipeg. But even Vancouver, Calgary, and Ottawa think of forming a professional football team. Like Toronto, but not through the second team of "Giovinco" franchise. The idea of the league, in fact, is to have no youth teams or club club reserves that militate in MLS. And Toronto could be represented by the Argonauts, Canadian football franchise. And just in Toronto could train an Italian, Federico Turriziani, who overseas drives the Empire Canada Soccer Academy: "It's true, there were contacts. The new situation could come to fruition as well as jump. Canadian football, I had an interview with the Argonauts: they are interested in having me as a coach. "

Looks to me like a way for Federico Turrizani to remind people in Italy that he is still alive and make them think he might be worth hiring there. What he doesn't seem to realize is that the Argos are owned by 2/3rds of TFC's ownership, so are not likely to be in the market for a rival soccer team to TFC.

that a pretty direct statement though..

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

We'll find out if there is any truth to this soon enough as I am sure the likes of Rollins, Totera and maybe even Kurt Larson will be all over something like this.

some of the rest:

The hitches?
"Well, there are bureaucratic problems linked to the presence of two squads." Toronto wanted to deploy the squad reserves, but the League is not of this opinion, as we always have different interests, we will see who can win. "

...

Are the Canadian teams militating in MLS or USL not interested?
"They would also be interested, but as I said before, with teams under 23 or reserves, but the Canadian Premier League wants only first teams."

Edited July 15, 2017 by BringBackTheBlizzard

[Zem]

6 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

This is part of what Google Translate provides for that link:

The project began officially on May 6, 2017, at the time confirmed affiliations are Hamilton and Winnipeg. But even Vancouver, Calgary, and Ottawa think of forming a professional football team. Like Toronto, but not through the second team of "Giovinco" franchise. The idea of the league, in fact, is to have no youth teams or club club reserves that militate in MLS. And Toronto could be represented by the Argonauts, Canadian football franchise. And just in Toronto could train an Italian, Federico Turriziani, who overseas drives the Empire Canada Soccer Academy: "It's true, there were contacts. The new situation could come to fruition as well as jump. Canadian football, I had an interview with the Argonauts: they are interested in having me as a coach. "

Looks to me like a way for Federico Turrizani to remind people in Italy that he is still alive and make them think he might be worth hiring there. What he doesn't seem to realize is that the Argos are owned by 2/3rds of TFC's ownership, so are not likely to be in the market for a rival soccer team to TFC.

So it's speculative, basically. Turriziani apparently wants to start a team but doesn't actually have any kind of ownership group behind him.

[mpg_29]

I'm not saying it's true...but if you are the TFC owners and you start thinking about the scenarios in which CPL team(s) are coming to Toronto whether you own one or not....you might rather own one and have as much control of the pro soccer market in Toronto as you can

From a business perspective think of when Best Buy and Futureshop had stores right next to each other...ultimately they didn't care which one you went to as it was the same parent company.

 

[matty]

This is the worst story I've seen yet.

[Macksam]

You know what would be the biggest troll job ever? Form a club called FC Toronto with a red home kit that plays out of BMO Field. Just modify everything from the crest to the colours ever so slightly to avoid litigation from MLSE.

Edited July 15, 2017 by Macksam

[Complete Homer]

It's true, there were contacts. The new situation could come to fruition as well as jump. Canadian football, I had an interview with the Argonauts: they are interested in having me as a coach. "

 

[Ansem]

CPL is coming and that's a fact. So MLSE can either accept having a competitor in its backyard or use one of its subdivisions to start a CPL club so the entire Toronto market remains there's.

That strategy gas been done to death in the business world. CPL would never accept TFC brass to be near the CPL team but MLSE can create a separate division or use the Argos to run that team.

People think that MLSE micromanage, MLSE wants the money for their shareholders. That's all they care about. If acquiring and running a CPL team brings them more money, why would they oppose running it? 

[Ansem]

^^^

No, I'm not saying I'm believe that article

[Gopherbashi]

3 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

This is part of what Google Translate provides for that link:

The project began officially on May 6, 2017, at the time confirmed affiliations are Hamilton and Winnipeg. But even Vancouver, Calgary, and Ottawa think of forming a professional football team. Like Toronto, but not through the second team of "Giovinco" franchise. The idea of the league, in fact, is to have no youth teams or club club reserves that militate in MLS. And Toronto could be represented by the Argonauts, Canadian football franchise. And just in Toronto could train an Italian, Federico Turriziani, who overseas drives the Empire Canada Soccer Academy: "It's true, there were contacts. The new situation could come to fruition as well as jump. Canadian football, I had an interview with the Argonauts: they are interested in having me as a coach. "

Looks to me like a way for Federico Turrizani to remind people in Italy that he is still alive and make them think he might be worth hiring there. What he doesn't seem to realize is that the Argos are owned by 2/3rds of TFC's ownership, so are not likely to be in the market for a rival soccer team to TFC.

It seems like they think that "football" means "football".

I can't wait to see the Argos as part of the CPL.

[Greatest Cockney Rip Off]

If there is a Toronto team, I hope it has nothing to do with MLSE.  What would be the point of supporting it instead of TFC?

[mpg_29]

9 minutes ago, Ansem said:

CPL is coming and that's a fact. So MLSE can either accept having a competitor in its backyard or use one of its subdivisions to start a CPL club so the entire Toronto market remains there's.

That strategy gas been done to death in the business world. CPL would never accept TFC brass to be near the CPL team but MLSE can create a separate division or use the Argos to run that team.

People think that MLSE micromanage, MLSE wants the money for their shareholders. That's all they care about. If acquiring and running a CPL team brings them more money, why would they oppose running it? 

yeah basically what I was saying..essentially they'd own it to maintain control of the market..

But even if they set up a separate division or use the Argos to run the team I don't see how CPL could be convinced that there wouldn't be coordination..