jpg75 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Espinoza out. http://bantusportsnews.com/2016/08/27/roger-espinoza-se-baja-del-barco-seleccion-nacional/ Mejía in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Mejía Incredible. I wonder if his personal issues bubbled over tonight when he got red carded for an elbow late in the game? btw Mejia is back at Marathon. Honduras will probably go with Claros beside Acosta now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Alberth Elis has signed with Liga MX side Monterrey http://www.laprensa.hn/deportes/993949-410/turco-mohamed-alberth-elis-nos-puede-dar-esa-frescura-que-estamos-buscando and apparently he will be joining their U20 team: http://www.diez.hn/futboldeprimera/993559-99/según-espn-méxico-alberth-elis-va-a-la-sub-20-del-monterrey-como Anthony Lozano scored for Tenerife yesterday. Not good news for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, jpg75 said: Alberth Elis has signed with Liga MX side Monterrey http://www.laprensa.hn/deportes/993949-410/turco-mohamed-alberth-elis-nos-puede-dar-esa-frescura-que-estamos-buscando Anthony Lozano scored for Tenerife yesterday. Not good news for us... ...and you seemed quite content to see their U-23s play... They've got quality players moving up the ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: ...and you seemed quite content to see their U-23s play... They've got quality players moving up the ranks. I'm still content to see them play. Much rather have a 20 yr old who has proven nothing in Mexico than guys like David Suazo, Carlos Pavon or Carlos Costly from previous cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 They might score against us, but I like their inexperience. I don't think they are as mentally tough as 2014 cycle Honduras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 No Espinoza, no Najar...pretty great for us. Their midfield is much, much worse without those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Those are pretty big losses for them. They still have lots of talent but they're at a weak point in their overall talent pool right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 8 hours ago, jpg75 said: I'm still content to see them play. Much rather have a 20 yr old who has proven nothing in Mexico than guys like David Suazo, Carlos Pavon or Carlos Costly from previous cycles. You seem to be the most knowledgable person on the Honduran team, what do you think their starting 11 will look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I think Mario Martinez is a dangerous player for them in midfield. He really hurt us last cycle in SPS and forced two saves from Borjan in Vancouver IIRC. Him being ruled out would be bigger for me than Espinoza, but I am happy to hear he won't be playing nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I'm definitely not as knowledgeable as jpg75, but I'd say on the backline Mayor Figueroa will be a CB and Izzaguire of Celtic will be at LB. I think Beckeles (who plays in 2nd division Mexico) will be the RB and maybe Johnny Palacios will be the fourth guy. That would give them an experienced, physical back four to match up with our athletic attackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I do remember that izzaguire didn't play in Vancouver, and Mario Martinez seemed to be the most dangerous player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Tesho, you would think, would be able to give a good scouting report on his club teammate Figueroa. Interestingly, Tesho and Figueroa assisted separate Michael Barrios goals yesterday against Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 20 minutes ago, shorty said: Tesho, you would think, would be able to give a good scouting report on his club teammate Figueroa. Interestingly, Tesho and Figueroa assisted separate Michael Barrios goals yesterday against Houston. I think that Figueroa would give Honduras more information on Tesho than Tesho has on Figueroa. (Many reasons, but mostly that one's played against Canada 4 times in 4 years and the other has played 9 minutes against Honduras.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Fair enough, and good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 11 hours ago, jpg75 said: Anthony Lozano scored for Tenerife yesterday. Not good news for us... That kid is on fire, Felt Edgar & deJong held their own for whitecaps last night at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 ----------------------------Escober----------------------- Beckeles----Palacios-Figueroa-Izzaguirre ------------------Acosta----Claros--------------------- Martinez------------------------------------B.Garcia -----------------------Elis----Lozano-------------------- Typical Honduran 4-4-2, unless they go 4-2-3-1 which they have played from time to time. Then i would assume: Elis------------------Martinez-------------B.Garcia -------------------------Lozano------------------------- But Quioto could play out on the wing and that would likely mean Martinez out (and B.Garcia in the middle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 On 28/08/2016 at 5:17 PM, jpg75 said: But Quioto could play out on the wing Diez just posted that Quioto is out or injured (not sure - on my phone and the website is glitching). Can somebody check the article and translate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I believe it says that he has a sore throat and is not training, but that his participation in the game Friday is not in jeopardy. (native speakers please feel free to correct me) http://www.diez.hn/laseleccion/995002-99/romell-quioto-sufre-faringitis-y-no-entrenó-con-la-selección-de-honduras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, shorty said: I believe it says that he has a sore throat and is not training, but that his participation in the game Friday is not in jeopardy. (native speakers please feel free to correct me) http://www.diez.hn/laseleccion/995002-99/romell-quioto-sufre-faringitis-y-no-entrenó-con-la-selección-de-honduras Ok thanks. Thought it was more serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Interesting that the game is also going to be shown on BEIN sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 after appealing to FIFA, the Honduran federation has confirmed that Pinto will be serving a sideline ban for this match. http://www.diariomas.hn/2016/08/30/ratifican-pinto-no-dirigira-honduras-juegos-canada-mexico/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 The last paragraph says that he doesn't know where he will be in the stadium, but that he will try to figure out how to relay instructions to his assistants. Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reme90 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Fantastic interview with Benito Floro with a Miami radio station. Sometimes I feel we really don't appreciate his pedigree. No Canadian coach has ever understood the game quite like him, even under Osieck. http://fdpradio.com/benito-floro-el-futbol-es-un-juego-para-ganar/ Sorry it's in Spanish, both the article and the radio interview. A couple of highlights: The base of the team is the same for a long time now. He says he never sets up his team to defend the penalty box. He doesn't believe in parking the bus. Even when he has faced powerful teams. But rather if you only have a 20% chance of winning than to focus on executing that 20%. Orlando was chosen for weather but it's been cold and raining. He doesn't take this game as a "final" but understands it's importance. He believes Goal Difference is a factor and El Salvador can surprise, even Mexico. Guzmán injured otherwise he has the squad he needs to get a result. No other injuries in the squad, everyone is healthy. He's reviewed the 8-1 game 3 times extensively. He wants his players to be the protagonists in the game. Soccer is played to win. There is no greater mental preparedness than a player understanding what he can't do and what he should do. He's been working hard on that with the team. Feels that often coaches ask their players to die on the field for the team without telling them how to play the game. Effort is not our problem but game decisions and understanding is. He feels we have the right mindset and character to execute the plan. Was asked what his game plan was and he said "I'll give you the answer that all wise managers do; that they have their qualities and we will try to reduce them. You can never eliminate them. You have your own qualities and you try to maximize them. Score when you have the ball and don't let them score when they have it" He feels arguments about heat, time of day, crowd etc are all excuses. The heat affects their heart and kidneys the same as ours. One minute into the game the players should be aclimatized. Was pressed on how important the game was and he said the "finals" is when it's do or die and we are not there yet. He acknowledged that the results if they were drastic could leave us with no recourse but that only after the game we cam say if it's truly over. (Minimizing pressure on players?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 8 hours ago, reme90 said: Fantastic interview with Benito Floro with a Miami radio station. Sometimes I feel we really don't appreciate his pedigree. No Canadian coach has ever understood the game quite like him, even under Osieck. http://fdpradio.com/benito-floro-el-futbol-es-un-juego-para-ganar/ Sorry it's in Spanish, both the article and the radio interview. A couple of highlights: The base of the team is the same for a long time now. He says he never sets up his team to defend the penalty box. He doesn't believe in parking the bus. Even when he has faced powerful teams. But rather if you only have a 20% chance of winning than to focus on executing that 20%. Orlando was chosen for weather but it's been cold and raining. He doesn't take this game as a "final" but understands it's importance. He believes Goal Difference is a factor and El Salvador can surprise, even Mexico. Guzmán injured otherwise he has the squad he needs to get a result. No other injuries in the squad, everyone is healthy. He's reviewed the 8-1 game 3 times extensively. He wants his players to be the protagonists in the game. Soccer is played to win. There is no greater mental preparedness than a player understanding what he can't do and what he should do. He's been working hard on that with the team. Feels that often coaches ask their players to die on the field for the team without telling them how to play the game. Effort is not our problem but game decisions and understanding is. He feels we have the right mindset and character to execute the plan. Was asked what his game plan was and he said "I'll give you the answer that all wise managers do; that they have their qualities and we will try to reduce them. You can never eliminate them. You have your own qualities and you try to maximize them. Score when you have the ball and don't let them score when they have it" He feels arguments about heat, time of day, crowd etc are all excuses. The heat affects their heart and kidneys the same as ours. One minute into the game the players should be aclimatized. Was pressed on how important the game was and he said the "finals" is when it's do or die and we are not there yet. He acknowledged that the results if they were drastic could leave us with no recourse but that only after the game we cam say if it's truly over. (Minimizing pressure on players?) Thanks for the translation. That's pretty interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Well its supposed to feel like 100 today in Orlando so at least that problem will be solved Everything there is what I want to hear from a manager...its just tough when you juxtapose it with the actual results on the field (in all fairness to Floro, the one time he opened up a bit we missed a bunch of sitters and got run out of Vancouver by Mexico). But I always do wonder if the mentality when we went into SPS four years ago was 'draw or bust,' because as anyone who's played any sport at a remotely high level knows, if you go in there with that mentality you're going to lose 100% of the time. We don't need to start controlling the game or throwing our fullbacks forward or anything, but if Floro can get the team to believe they can win that's half the mental battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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