yothat Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 http://www.onceametro.com/2016/7/10/12139518/new-york-red-bulls-loanee-karl-ouimette-debuts-for-nasl-jacksonville-armada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Gideon Baah is out for the year with a broken tibia. NYRBs could have use for him now if they are even able to recall him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 On 7/11/2016 at 1:39 PM, Ruffian said: NYRBs could have use for him now if they are even able to recall him. NYRB not interested in a recall. Want him to stay at Jacksonville. http://www.onceametro.com/2016/8/10/12427032/report-karl-ouimette-wont-be-recalled-to-help-new-york-red-bulls-mls-nasl-jacksonville-armada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Unfortunate - perhaps Karl is just not ready to be a consistent MLS player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, Obinna said: Unfortunate - perhaps Karl is just not ready to be a consistent MLS player? He could be ready, he did well at fullback for NYRB last year, but he's been playing as a centre-back this year and it doesn't seem to be a position he's very comfortable in. David C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 4 hours ago, Zem said: He could be ready, he did well at fullback for NYRB last year, but he's been playing as a centre-back this year and it doesn't seem to be a position he's very comfortable in. Centre-back is his main position and the one he is better suited for. He needs to prove himself as a NASL level starting CB first before there is any consideration of him returning to MLS. At best he is backup level and probably 4th or 5th choice CB if he is on a MLS team. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 This is true and also concerning - How good does he have to be to get another chance? How many MLS clubs send a CB out on loan and then recall him (and USE him)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Obinna said: This is true and also concerning - How good does he have to be to get another chance? How many MLS clubs send a CB out on loan and then recall him (and USE him)? He is simply currently not good enough to be a MLS CB right now. He could be a back up but he is not going to get better being the 4th or 5th CB of an MLS team. He needs to play at least a couple of years of being a starter in NASL before thinking MLS again. If Red Bull recall him it will only be because of injuries. Tissot is also in a similar situation although I think he is more skilled than Ouimette but also in a harder position to break into as an offensive midfielder so he needs to also be a dominant player in NASL for a couple years also before thinking of MLS again. If there were more loans between MLS and NASL it would be a lot better for the development of players like this. Edited August 12, 2016 by Grizzly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) SB Nation article looking back on Karl's loan to Jacksonville. Hopefully, he can find a coach that believes in him (and maybe sees him more as a fullback). That likely won't happen in Jacksonville next year. "Under the guidance of former Metrostar and Red Bull Tony Meola, Ouimette made six appearances (five starts) for the Armada. But Meola was fired on August 7, since when Ouimette has had one minute of competitive playing time for Jacksonville." http://www.onceametro.com/2016/10/31/13480648/karl-ouimette-loan-to-jacksonville-armada-a-bust-nasl-new-york-red-bulls Edited November 1, 2016 by David C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 He is the perfect example of a player I think the CPL needs to be around for. Younger player that showed promise but was inconsistent. Needs to get a run of games but isn't going to find it at the MLS or even NASL level. Perhaps he will follow Tissot to Ottawa. matty and Complete Homer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) He's done with NYRB http://www.empireofsoccer.com/bwp-davis-duvall-to-return-zubar-ouimette-out-55952/ hope he can land a gig for 2017 Edited November 28, 2016 by matty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Not at all surprising to me that Ouimette was released. Early in the year was his chance to prove that he could be MLS calibre, and he looked poor. I'm not even sure if he lands with an NASL club next year given that he only played once in the club's last 14 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, shermanator said: Not at all surprising to me that Ouimette was released. Early in the year was his chance to prove that he could be MLS calibre, and he looked poor. I'm not even sure if he lands with an NASL club next year given that he only played once in the club's last 14 games. Think he'll try his luck in Finland while waiting for the CPL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, shermanator said: Not at all surprising to me that Ouimette was released. Early in the year was his chance to prove that he could be MLS calibre, and he looked poor. I'm not even sure if he lands with an NASL club next year given that he only played once in the club's last 14 games. I agree with your MLS comment but think that he could still latch on with another NASL team. If I remember correctly, he mainly stopped playing in Jacksonville due a coaching change. The original coach seemed to be fine with him (or was that with NYRB?). Also, I think he needs to promote himself (going forward) as a defensive fullback, instead of a centre-back. This appears to be his better position and he has been a serviceable back-up for the CMNT at this spot. So, no reason why an NASL team couldn't use him there. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 38 minutes ago, matty said: Think he'll try his luck in Finland while waiting for the CPL? Sure, why not. 15 minutes ago, David C. said: I agree with your MLS comment but think that he could still latch on with another NASL team. If I remember correctly, he mainly stopped playing in Jacksonville due a coaching change. The original coach seemed to be fine with him (or was that with NYRB?). Also, I think he needs to promote himself (going forward) as a defensive fullback, instead of a centre-back. This appears to be his better position and he has been a serviceable back-up for the CMNT at this spot. So, no reason why an NASL team couldn't use him there. Cheers! The best chance I think Ouimette has of signing with an NASL club is if he reunites with dos Santos in San Francisco. Outside of that, the current "Canadians as foreigners" situation in NASL really hampers his ability to sign on with an American club. David C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Doesn't matter where a defender plays if he's weak at 1vs1 defending. He can still play a few years in USL/NASL but might be more interesting to go back to studies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Big_M said: Doesn't matter where a defender plays if he's weak at 1vs1 defending. He can still play a few years in USL/NASL but might be more interesting to go back to studies. Players retiring at 24 is one of the reasons we don't have any depth. He has some skill but needs to go somewhere where he can play and continue to develop. He is unlikely to become the top level defender that we need as a national team starter but he may still improve to a point where he is at least a useful depth player. At 23 Corbin-Ong had just moved up to German 4th division from 5th division and now he is a starter on one of the better teams in the 3rd Bundesliga. If the CPL does arrive hopefully it will give players like Ouimette a place to play and continue their development because if enough of these guys keep playing a couple of them will be late bloomers and become good players and even those who do not will help the development of the younger players coming through. matty, Ivanovski94, Ivan and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Lack of depth is caused by not producing enough high quality players and not having a professional league. There are and will always be plenty of USL/NASL level players. What is needed is higher level players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 How to we get those "high level players". Seems to me if the CPL was running we would have another viable option for under 23 players to get some development. Not every high level guy is ID at 16. Especially our guys, look at the washouts from the 3MLS academies in the last 3-4 years. How many might have emerged as a "depth player" CMNT fringe player if they had steady playing time and decent coaching into their mid 20's. And as for plenty of USL level players, according to S.Sandor, 100+ CDN played in USL last year. With CPL not launching anytime soon, I hope that number rises to 150 next year. Give our depth type guys a place to play and we might polish a few gems (Didic,Levis). Maybe Ouimette goes to Europe, but he could also drop down to USL level, stay in the game, and work on his defending closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Karl Ouimette has signed with SF Deltas. Decent landing spot for him given his struggles in MLS. Dub Narcotic and matty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 hours ago, shermanator said: Karl Ouimette has signed with SF Deltas. Decent landing spot for him given his struggles in MLS. The deltas are my new favorite american team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Could be worse. Wish we develop to the point where our internationals aren't playing in NASL, but not quite there yet. Don't know if he'll make it back to MLS. I hope he gets another shot one day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 This piece of shit is back and signed again by Pittsburgh. Wow http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/789393?referrer_id=2333971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Big_M said: This piece of shit is back and signed again by Pittsburgh. Wow http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/789393?referrer_id=2333971 It was a bad and dangerous play on his part last year but I am not sure he should be identified for the rest of his career/life as a "piece of shit" because of one mistake. If he continues to commit such offences it is different but if it is a one time offence then it should remain in the past. Edited May 5, 2017 by Grizzly shamrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It was not and had nothing to do with a ''play''. It was brutality. No problem seeing him as such until he plays a couple of seasons without any incidents and shows good attitude. Ivanovski94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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