jpg75 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Daniel Fernendes just signed with San Antoino Scorpions on loan for the rest of the season. Is he cap tied to Portugal due to his switch? He can still file a switch if he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 As usual a large number of the Vees with a naive and myopic view of international allegiance. At some point, especially when these players start having kids, they look at practical considerations. They see Hargreaves, who dismissed the CSA and got a dream move to Man Utd on the back of a solid World Cup with England - for him, it was worth untold thousands. They see Begovic, who played 3 games at a World Cup and got a move to Chelsea - likely partly due to that exposure. They see JDG2, playing in the 3rd place game at a World Cup final. And then, even if they were motivated by genuine Canadian pride, they see the sheer ineptitude of administration and coaching within the CSA that makes the CanMNT choice even less appealing. I get it, in an ideal world they could tell their wife that it's worth having a less comfortable lifestyle to play for Canada. But the CSA makes that choice a lot harder. I don't think we should be faulting these guys, who are often making a decision in their late teens. I definitely don't think we should be rejecting them - not like we're in a position to. Your other two examples work but this one is really week. Chelsea chose Begovic because he was available and because they've played against over a dozen times in the last few years... They probably watched tape from the WC but the bulk of their research would have been from the league both Stoke and Chelsea play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I think you are reading too much into this financial security for families argument. I'm not really inclined to believe that's why most people make the call to abandon Canada. None of us know so let's not assume, but I don't think that should pass as fact. But even if that were the case, no one here is passing judgment, we are merely saying if you go the money route, don't expect a place on the national team. Anyway, I've typed out and deleted like 10 different angles to take this but I think we are so far away there's no real point. I just don't see any benefit in letting 18 year old kids call the shots. Cal you're correct. I've known quite a few young professional athletes and not many of them were making life long decisions in their late teens and early twenties. Most of these guys have a group of people around them that will help/push them in certain directions and others that are constantly telling them how wonderful they are. That combination is why I think these guys end up with the belief that they're world betters and can play for Chile, Argentina or Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah fair enough re: Begovic, although it's questionable if he gets that move to Stoke from Portsmouth in the first place if they knew he'd be jetting off every few months to Honduras instead of somewhere like Latvia. See also: Hoilett, whose reluctance to be a CanMNT regular may be so he's in a better bargaining position everytime he has to negotiate a new contract. As for your second point, I agree that these kids get pushed into thinking they're good enough for a world power, and I don't think we should hold it against them if we can re-recruit them later in their 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 He can still file a switch if he wants. Did he not use his switch moving the other direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Did he not use his switch moving the other direction? No. He never played in an official youth match for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 daniel fernandes to CANADA ?? that is depth, ya know 4 experienced gk is good , for international football, but the youngsters GK's wont be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) On the MLS live broadcast they just said Vitoria wants to play well in Canada and he's made the decision to play for the Canadian national team. It's said in first half stoppage time. Edited August 23, 2015 by jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 On the MLS live broadcast they just said Vitoria wants to play well in Canada and he's made the decision to play for the Canadian national team. It's said in first half stoppage time. Can confirm he said it at 45:30. No reference or explanation so I think the announcer may just have made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Was Vitoria playing yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Yes. Started and played the full 90 in a 1-0 shutout of Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Who cares. We have no need for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 ^not the case. With Jakovic injured (even without Jakovic injured at that) we cetainly could use the a starting MLS CB with decent feet in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Can confirm he said it at 45:30. No reference or explanation so I think the announcer may just have made a mistake. Seems like a very specific mistake to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 ^not the case. With Jakovic injured (even without Jakovic injured at that) we cetainly could use the a starting MLS CB with decent feet in some capacity. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 No need for a solid center back? Really? He played a great game last night, in what was otherwise a drab affair. I coulda sworne he asked for Drogba's jersey before the match ended. Drogba opted to give it to an Ultra, in a good move. Good in the air and played well all game. But then again, it was not much of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 ^not the case. With Jakovic injured (even without Jakovic injured at that) we cetainly could use the a starting MLS CB with decent feet in some capacity. This x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilecalgary Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Looks like Steven Vitória is waiting for a national team call up from Benito Floro and the CSA... Enjoyed watching him score that header against TFC on October 3rd. When he was with Estoril between 2010 and 2013 he scored 19 goals, including 13 penalties... not bad for a defender! Edited October 29, 2015 by mobilecalgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Looks like Steven Vitória is waiting for a national team call up from Benito Floro and the CSA... Enjoyed watching him score that header against TFC on October 3rd. When he was with Estoril between 2010 and 2013 he scored 19 goals, including 13 penalties... not bad for a defender! Is that comment based on any new information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilecalgary Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Based on his twitter reply yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 That's not a real account guys..... No blue check mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Ummm that twitter account is his parody! A PARODY. says in the bio. Plus that account is @notstevevitoria obviously not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobilecalgary Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Weird is right... 460 tweets and some in Portuguese... tweeted Júlio César was playing a friendly with Benfica at BMO Field in July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 In August he also tweeted, "attackers have extra supplies whenever they face us cuz I take them to school!" I have Portuguese friends who can speak Portuguese too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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