Grizzly Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 12 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: If we assume the news is true, why would Benfica release him of his contract? Is it because they cannot loan him out at a value equal to the cost of covering his contract (so it's cheaper to simply cancel it)? If a team has decided a player has no future at their club and they can't make any money selling him they will always want to get him off their books as a far preferable and less risky option than trying to loan him. In particular, they want to have no future liabilities to the player. If the player thinks he can sign for similar money somewhere else or is willing to take a pay cut to further his career and get playing time then the best solution is usually a mutually agreed termination of the contract. As long as a player is under contract the team has control of when and with whom he can sign with so much better for his career to get released if he has some interest from other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Well, with a January contract termination, I have a feeling that if he's on the Camp Poutine roster tomorrow it's because he may be headed towards a Canadian MLS team. No proof, just a gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 @Blackdude if Vitória ever reaches 3 goals for the MNT (and therefore moves beyond the "Friend zone"), do you think @El Hombre will let him into his heart? BuzzAndSting, Brethers8 and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Just now, Olympique_de_Marseille said: @Blackdude if Vitória ever reaches 3 goals for the MNT (and therefore moves beyond the "Friend zone"), do you think @El Hombre will let him into his heart? If Vitoria apologizes to El Hombre in person and do that, then maybe he will in 10 years. Obinna and Brethers8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I am so fucking pissed right now... yomurphy1, Olympique_de_Marseille, Lord Bob and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, El Hombre said: I am so fucking pissed right now... but you're the keeper of the sar-chasm....how can I take you serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, El Hombre said: I am so fucking pissed right now... I'll bet you TFC will sign him just to spite you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) it is what it is. he'll have to play hard and bring his best to get any minutes for us in a meaningful game. i'll support him as i will any player who wears our kit. but the stunt he pulled in 07 remains one of the more bitter slaps in the face canadian soccer has ever received. I will remember. Edited January 22, 2016 by BrennanFan Alex and gator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Fuck Vitoria, and fuck us for being so spineless as to accept him. But I'm going to focus on the new players like Farago, Irving, and Dixon who aren't pieces of shit. shermanator, Grizzly, A_Gagne and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Benjamin Massey said: Fuck Vitoria, and fuck us for being so spineless as to accept him. But I'm going to focus on the new players like Farago, Irving, and Dixon who aren't pieces of shit. Isn't it the Canadian thing to do to forgive and forget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Just now, canta15 said: Isn't it the Canadian thing to do to forgive and forget? I am under no obligation to forgive what has never been apologized for or regretted. Edited January 22, 2016 by Lord Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 TBH I'm happy he will be in camp now so that all the negative feelings are vented; when the March roster comes out it will be all about happy dreams and Arfield! Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 30 minutes ago, Benjamin Massey said: Fuck Vitoria, and fuck us for being so spineless as to accept him. But I'm going to focus on the new players like Farago, Irving, and Dixon who aren't pieces of shit. What a sexist comment. If it was Sydney Leroux coming back into fold i bet you'd be super supportive. [/trolling] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, jpg75 said: What a sexist comment. If it was Sydney Leroux coming back into fold i bet you'd be super supportive. [/trolling] for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 31 minutes ago, jpg75 said: What a sexist comment. If it was Sydney Leroux coming back into fold i bet you'd be super supportive. [/trolling] If you say something bad about Sydney Leroux you're racist. Grizzly, Obinna, Olympique_de_Marseille and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanfromvancouver Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Benjamin Massey said: Fuck Vitoria, and fuck us for being so spineless as to accept him. what makes someone spineless to do this? Yeah, Vitoria was a bad dude... however, that is in the past. I get it, he wanted to play for Portugal and waited years to see if they would call him. Now that he knows it will never happen, he comes back to his home country. I get the anger over it, but it is in the past. Let me ask you, are you someone who thinks that it someone makes a bad decision, they should never be forgiven or allowed in the door again? If so, your comment makes a bit more sense. Thanks Edited January 22, 2016 by amanfromvancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, amanfromvancouver said: what makes someone spineless to do this? Yeah, Vitoria was a bad dude... however, that is in the past. Let me ask you, are you someone who thinks that it someone makes a bad decision, they should never be forgiven or allowed in the door again? If so, your comment makes a bit more sense. Thanks Forget that, I am even going to question this opinion that he's a "bad dude" Does anyone here actually know him personally? If not, you're opinion of him is not particularly valid. Furthermore, just because he made a personal decision that doesn't suit our interests, it does not mean he is a bad person. It means he had the guts to go after what he wanted. Even if "what he wanted" turned out to be a poor career choice. He could have been approaching 40 or 50 caps with us now. That experience would have likely boosted his club career. We'll never know what would have been. Regardless, I choose to take the "I told you so" stance to this. I would have bet big money on him never playing for Portugal, and the fact he is in our program is all I need to be satisfied. Besides, he is a decent player that will help our program (if he has the right attitude, which remains to be seen given the fact he walked out of the Union press conference, apparently). Edited January 22, 2016 by Obinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, amanfromvancouver said: however, that is in the past. I get it, he wanted to play for Portugal It's that he played for them at the U-20 level instead of Canada. In Canada's showcase event at the time: the 2007 U-20 World Cup. In his hometown of Toronto. Edited January 22, 2016 by Olympique_de_Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, amanfromvancouver said: what makes someone spineless to do this? Yeah, Vitoria was a bad dude... however, that is in the past. I get it, he wanted to play for Portugal and waited years to see if they would call him. Now that he knows it will never happen, he comes back to his home country. I get the anger over it, but it is in the past. Let me ask you, are you someone who thinks that it someone makes a bad decision, they should never be forgiven or allowed in the door again? If so, your comment makes a bit more sense. Thanks W E W L A D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanfromvancouver Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Benjamin Massey said: W E W L A D alright don't answer my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 1 minute ago, amanfromvancouver said: alright don't answer my question Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: It's that he played for them at the U-20 level instead of Canada. In Canada's showcase event at the time: the 2007 U-20 World Cup. In his hometown of Toronto. Serious question: In 2007, did Vitoria turn the CSA down in favour of Portugal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Just now, Obinna said: Serious question: In 2007, did Vitoria turn the CSA down in favour of Portugal? I honestly have no idea. I don't know the story/specific timeline of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Obinna said: Forget that, I am even going to question this opinion that he's a "bad dude" Does anyone here actually know him personally? If not, you're opinion of him is not particularly valid. Furthermore, just because he made a personal decision that doesn't suit our interests, it does not mean he is a bad person. It means he had the guts to go after what he wanted. Even if "what he wanted" turned out to be a poor career choice. He could have been approaching 40 or 50 caps with us now. That experience would have likely boosted his club career. We'll never know what would have been. Regardless, I choose to take the "I told you so" stance to this. I would have bet big money on him never playing for Portugal, and the fact he is in our program is all I need to be satisfied. Besides, he is a decent player that will help our program (if he has the right attitude, which remains to be seen given the fact he walked out of the Union press conference, apparently). Y'know what, you're right. Everybody is wonderful. I hope all games end in ties so that no one gets discouraged. Let's expand the World Cup to be 200 teams because all the players are unique snowflakes and they all deserve to get to play in the big game. Let's all hug. Lord Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, amanfromvancouver said: alright don't answer my question You'll find that several posters here won't address questions when it doesn't suit them. It's unfortunate, really. marauder01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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