Match Thread: April 15, 2023 - Forge v Cavalry

[Kadenge]

Musse has looked good on the right flank for the Cavs

[SpursFlu]

I won the lottery!

Wizard of Oz " you know how much taxes you have to pay"

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

8 minutes ago, Kadenge said:

Musse has looked good on the right flank for the Cavs

Certainly has some pace that's for sure.

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

1-2 Cantave

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

2-2 Jensen

Edited April 15, 2023 by Ozzie_the_parrot

[Big_M]

cantave with an early candidate for goal of the year...jensen on the other end says no bekker no problem and equalizes

[Big_M]

getting a pretty clear answer on why montgomery never played a minute in mls...james misses an open header at the end and it finishes 2-2 in a fun one

[Markoaleks]

OTP- must be hard to hate so often and so consistently 

Forge SSH here and there were close to 7k at the match 

8 less per the announced crowd 

and both second goals Forge and the horses were crackers 

[Sonny Heung-min]

9 minutes ago, Markoaleks said:

Forge SSH here and there were close to 7k at the match 

8 less per the announced crowd 

What was the announced attendance?

Apologies must have missed it

[Ftduck]

11 minutes ago, Sonny Heung-min said:

What was the announced attendance?

Apologies must have missed it

6800ish

[narduch]

 

[Sonny Heung-min]

Thanks, great start to opening weekend!

[gator]

Just home from the match, it certainly was entertaining and the wonderful weather helped in bringing in a great crowd, as has been noted both teams 2nd goals were excellent! We thought it should have been a red on the penalty but we were at the far end and it was hard to tell, Cavalry had a good bit of the play with Forge choosing to counter, Escalante at LB, wtf? 

Edited April 15, 2023 by gator

[SthMelbRed]

10 hours ago, Soccerpro2 said:

Bevin reminds me of Wade Boggs in the old Simpson's episode where Mr. Burns demands he gets rid of his sideburns.

Don Mattingley, I believe.

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

12 hours ago, Ftduck said:

6800ish

If only around a quarter of a 24000 capacity stadium was being used (upper tiers not used on both sides as well as the lower tier on the camera side AFAIA), the majority of the actively used seating was easily visible on the Onesoccer stream. They appeared to be closer to half full rather than near capacity as the announced number would appear to imply.

If they distributed 6800 tickets, there must have been a lot of no shows if they were only using the mezzanine level on the camera side in other words. Compare and contrast with the Pacific game where most of the seats are clearly actually being used and there a lot of people standing at the barriers and on concourses.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Ozzie_the_parrot

[Tigers]

Ooh, Ozzie, keep going,  talk dirty to me!

[Bison44]

One game.....one game into the season and it starts............... "I saw some crowd shots of part the stadium and I say it was half of the announced attendance".   

[narduch]

6 hours ago, Bison44 said:

One game.....one game into the season and it starts............... "I saw some crowd shots of part the stadium and I say it was half of the announced attendance".   

There were probably more people at the Forge or Ottawa games than at the NYRB game yesterday. Despite the announced attendance 

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

This pretty much confirms that only the mezzanine and corporate boxes were in use on Saturday on the camera side:

so for 6800 to match the actual attendance rather than being a generously announced tickets distributed number (cue somebody posting something about MLS like I am supposed to be oblivious to the way teams in other leagues do this sort of thing as well for PR related reasons) the seats you see in the active sections on the far side from the vantage point of the Onesoccer stream have to be close to all full.

Edited April 17, 2023 by Ozzie_the_parrot

[Tigers]

And?  Say you're right.  So fucking what? 

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

The actual crowd likely isn't enough to pay the bills so don't get carried away about the league being a huge success when attendance numbers that have clearly been inflated for PR reasons are announced.

[narduch]

23 minutes ago, Tigers said:

And?  Say you're right.  So fucking what? 

It all comes back to him hating the league because it didn't involve TFC's reserve team and didn't link up with the USSF.

Nevermind the fact that Forge have 20% more season ticket holders this season. Don't think he has made a single comment on that yet. Maybe he thinks they are lying about that too 

He posts articles about the league to help hide the fact that he hates it so much 

Edited April 17, 2023 by narduch

[narduch]

2 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

This pretty much confirms that only the mezzanine and corporate boxes were in use on Saturday on the camera side:

so for 6800 to match the actual attendance rather than being a generously announced tickets distributed number (cue somebody posting something about MLS like I am supposed to be oblivious to the way teams in other leagues do this sort of thing as well for PR related reasons) the seats you see in the active sections on the far side from the vantage point of the Onesoccer stream have to be close to all full.

Pathetic as usual. 

[Unnamed Trialist]

On 4/16/2023 at 11:18 AM, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

If only around a quarter of a 24000 capacity stadium was being used (upper tiers not used on both sides as well as the lower tier on the camera side AFAIA), the majority of the actively used seating was easily visible on the Onesoccer stream. They appeared to be closer to half full rather than near capacity as the announced number would appear to imply.

If they distributed 6800 tickets, there must have been a lot of no shows if they were only using the mezzanine level on the camera side in other words. Compare and contrast with the Pacific game where most of the seats are clearly actually being used and there a lot of people standing at the barriers and on concourses.

Stop talking reason when your position is the most irrational again and again. You have this preconceived notion you apply like some conspiracy theorist whe sees every shred of information in his favour. You try to foist your self-fulfilling prophecies on objective evidence. And nothing of what you say can be tested. 

You're the board's master of irrational argumentation.

Announced attendance is the first piece of data. Those who go to games are in a position to judge the accuracy. There's no logical reason to falsify that.

In any case, the whole rationale is ignorant. If you inflate paid attendance then you are admitting revenue that could then be subject to taxation and would go against expenditures in your accounting. If anything, if you are claiming losses, which all CPL clubs and CSB are avowedly doing, you should deflate income sources to favour your accounting, taxes and even your bargaining position before players and club employees. 

Sorry to interrupt your flat earth society meeting, go on.

Edited April 17, 2023 by Unnamed Trialist

[narduch]

6 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Stop taking reason when your position is the most irrational again and again. You have this preconceived notion you apply like some conspiracy theorist whe sees every shred of information in his favour. You try to foist your self-fulfilling prophecies on objective evidence. And nothing of what you say can be tested. 

You're the board's master of irrational argumentation.

Announced attendance is the first piece of data. Those who go to games are in a position to judge the accuracy. There's no logical reason to falsify that.

In any case, the whole rationale is ignorant. If you inflate paid attendance then you are admitting revenue that could then be subject to taxation and would go against expenditures in your accounting. If anything, if you are claiming losses, which all CPL clubs and CSB are avowedly doing, you should deflate income sources to favour your accounting, taxes and even your bargaining position before players and club employees. 

Sorry to interrupt your flat earth society meeting, go on.

I don't even understand his argument that they are inflating the numbers for PR reasons.

You aren't creating a false sense of scarcity by announcing 6900 people attending a game at your 20k+ stadium.

His entire premise is ludicrous