Ottawafan74 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, matty said: it's actually a pretty old school style of joke that dates back to the early 90s at least. the issues with it are valid but no one here cares so fuck it move on Tbh I didn’t read any sexual connotations into his comments. Just figured he is still upset that the Fury fought back against the governing body that tried to pull a fast one on them. And won. ChrisinOrleans and Bbeto 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, m-g-williams said: So . . . any chance of getting back to discussing Ottawa and the CPL? How about in a year or 2?️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ottawafan74 said: Tbh I didn’t read any sexual connotations into his comments. Just figured he is still upset that the Fury fought back against the governing body that tried to pull a fast one on them. And won. he described the club as "bi-feeder" before using a bunch of buzzwords commonly and historically used in association with (both seriously and mockingly) the act of coming out of the closet and living openly. the use of "bi" in this context is pretty directly taken from bisexual as opposed to bicycle or bilateral. anyways i am done, no one cares grant mgw's wishes ChrisinOrleans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Back on topic... m-g-williams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ansem said: Back on topic... YES! back on topic. Ottawa Fury are dicks and a CPL team needs to put them in their place in the 3rd round also Ottawa Fury needs to set a public time line in the next several months to join CPL. I don't expect it till after the Gold Cup but it would still be very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, matty said: YES! back on topic. Ottawa Fury are dicks and a CPL team needs to put them in their place in the 3rd round also Ottawa Fury needs to set a public time line in the next several months to join CPL. I don't expect it till after the Gold Cup but it would still be very nice. I'm just happy that you started putting back capital letters at the beginning of sentences.? Red and White, Nerf and Billy Bishop 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Initial B Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I hope the Fury win, but I hope it's on away goals to show OSEG that it's at least a comparable level to USL and therefore they should switch for 2020. ? Shortdutchcanuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 https://www.ledroit.com/sports/fury/de-laction-a-prevoir-chez-le-fury-50d053e79ea68e61f8cd5acf30c0103c bad google translate of the key note De Guzman: "I still look at our project as if we were going to be in the same league for two, three, four or even five years. We want our players to grow in this environment. The players and their agents are aware of our plan and some are still seduced by it. " also "We have a lot of conversations with the three clubs right now. We would like 20 to 30% of our players to come in season loans like Thomas Meilleur-Giguère and Maxime Crépeau last year. We do not want revolving doors, but at the same time, there are short-term loans that can help everyone like Doneil Henry of the Whitecaps last year. He was able to get back on his feet while waiting to be ready and he also helped our team grow. MLS clubs know we are a cradle of Canadian soccer now, "added De Guzman. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Are they in CPL? Not yet... so... off topic? I'm done criticizing the Fury. Until they join CPL, they are a USL team that will have to deal with CSA & CONCACAF less than a year from now regarding their future. Until then, awaiting CPL related news for Ottawa Bbeto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ansem said: Are they in CPL? Not yet... so... off topic? I'm done criticizing the Fury. Until they join CPL, they are a USL team that will have to deal with CSA & CONCACAF less than a year from now regarding their future. Until then, awaiting CPL related news for Ottawa dude many people have gone over why fury actions impact an ottawa cpl team. you wanna stop shitting on offc fine but don't act like this is "off topic" just like don't comment for the sake of commenting Edited January 16, 2019 by matty Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, matty said: dude many people have gone over why fury actions impact an ottawa cpl team. you wanna stop shitting on offc fine but don't act like this is "off topic" just like don't comment for the sake of commenting I'll be happy to discuss Fury in a USL thread or Fury thread or Canadian Championship thread since they will reload with loans from MLS teams There's no CPL news for Ottawa, that's all I'm saying. Edited January 16, 2019 by Ansem Billy Bishop and Bbeto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Ottawa saying they have plans to stay in USL and not move to CanPL IS CanPL news, like it or not. Kent, Sébastien, m-g-williams and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Ansem said: I'll be happy to discuss Fury in a USL thread or Fury thread or Canadian Championship thread since they will reload with loans from MLS teams There's no CPL news for Ottawa, that's all I'm saying. The middle section of the article is about how the team is planning knowing that there is pressure to move have them in the Canadian Premier League. So yes this directly relates to CPL news for Ottawa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, rob.notenboom said: Ottawa saying they have plans to stay in USL and not move to CanPL IS CanPL news, like it or not. CPL in Ottawa doesn't start or end with the Fury. Not me saying it but Clanachan said it when he said there were other investors. That's the kind of news I'm looking forward to. If Fury comes around, awesome but they obviously aren't interested for now so, looking forward to see how the league handles Ottawa market in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, matty said: The middle section of the article is about how the team is planning knowing that there is pressure to move have them in the Canadian Premier League. So yes this directly relates to CPL news for Ottawa They don't want in and looks like they will fight it by all means necessary... so understandably, the league's looking at alternatives Looking forward to those. Their future are in their hands and sanctioning bodies hands. I truly wish them well on their future endeavors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Ansem said: CPL in Ottawa doesn't start or end with the Fury. Not me saying it but Clanachan said it when he said there were other investors. That's the kind of news I'm looking forward to. If Fury comes around, awesome but they obviously aren't interested for now so, looking forward to see how the league handles Ottawa market in the future Did he say investors or did he say interested parties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, matty said: Did he say investors or did he say interested parties? I'd like to think that interested parties are potential investors. Pardon me if I'm mistaken on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Ansem said: I'd like to think that interested parties are potential investors. Pardon me if I'm mistaken on that No, they're interested parties who might be a local official or agent in the area who are inquiring about what is needed to bring the team in. They may or may not be money men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ansem said: CPL in Ottawa doesn't start or end with the Fury. Not me saying it but Clanachan said it when he said there were other investors. That's the kind of news I'm looking forward to. If Fury comes around, awesome but they obviously aren't interested for now so, looking forward to see how the league handles Ottawa market in the future That’s great and all, but that doesn’t make discussion of an article where an Ottawa staffer was specifically asked about CanPL ‘off topic’. Keegan and matty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, matty said: No, they're interested parties who might be a local official or agent in the area who are inquiring about what is needed to bring the team in. They may or may not be money men I'd like to think that CPL would have the professionalism (which I think they do), to only make time for those who have the financial means to at least get a meeting. I know my calls wouldn't get returned...cause...I don't have the money for such a venture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, rob.notenboom said: That’s great and all, but that doesn’t make discussion of an article where an Ottawa staffer was specifically asked about CanPL ‘off topic’. Fine, my bad. I was out of line. So De Guzman is planning long term in USL and CPL isn't on his radar. Unfortunate Bbeto, Keegan, rob.notenboom and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ansem said: I'd like to think that CPL would have the professionalism (which I think they do), to only make time for those who have the financial means to at least get a meeting. I know my calls wouldn't get returned...cause...I don't have the money for such a venture we could think that but having a government official, from a 150k+ city, call to ask about stuff relating to bringing a team to their city isn't some random no body. they're not an owner but they are an interested party none the less Edited January 16, 2019 by matty Sébastien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, matty said: we could think but having a government official, from a 150k+ city, call to ask about stuff relating to bringing a team to their city isn't some random no body. they're not an owner but they are an interested party none the less Ok...sure but to have followed decades of Quebec Nordiques drama with the NHL, Bettman would always say that there was "no potential ownership" so the answer is no...but the city wanted the team the entire time. Regis Lebaume himself would reach out and the message was the same... no ownership. When Peladeau step up, only then did he acknowledged Quebec having a prospective owner or if you prefer "interested party". In all seriousness, a city employee calling the league would not qualify as "interested party". Why would the city of Ottawa do that anyways? They already have a stadium. Edited January 16, 2019 by Ansem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Ansem said: Ok...sure but to have followed decades of Quebec Nordiques drama with the NHL, Bettman would always say that there was "no potential ownership" so the answer is no...but the city wanted the team the entire time. Regis Lebaume himself would reach out and the message was the same... no ownership. When Peladeau step up, only then did he acknowledged Quebec having a prospective owner or if you prefer "interested party". In all seriousness, a city employee calling the league would not qualify as "interested party". That being said, other investors being interested in Ottawa isn't surprising. It's the biggest market with no CPL or MLS team in the country. It's the potential groups burden to pitch a viable plan to the league under the current set of circumstances. Firstly, different scale between both leagues what the NHL and CPL call and interested party may be different. Also I'm not talking about a random Parks and Rec employee, I'm talking about someone elected. If you look at the statement where Clahachan talked about an alternative in Ottawa, his wording and way he talked about it was very different from hom he spoke of place like Moncton and St. John's (two places he confirmed he was talking to potential owners from). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, matty said: Firstly, different scale between both leagues what the NHL and CPL call and interested party may be different. And that's supposed to make them less professional and owners would somehow forget business 101? 8 minutes ago, matty said: Also I'm not talking about a random Parks and Rec employee, I'm talking about someone elected. If you look at the statement where Clahachan talked about an alternative in Ottawa, his wording and way he talked about it was very different from hom he spoke of place like Moncton and St. John's (two places he confirmed he was talking to potential owners from). Ottawa already has a stadium, there's no reason for the city to inquire about CPL unless they planned to build a soccer specific stadium I wasn't aware of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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