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Initial B

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  1. From what I was told at the SSH meeting, if the Fury were forced to switch leagues, they would. But if the CPL folded, the Fury would be folding right along with them. Another problem with another soccer team using TD Place Stadium is that they would have to hire their own front office separate from OSEG, who currently enjoys economies of scale using the same front office for three teams. That would lead to increased operational costs for the new club that might make it unsustainable. They may as well look for a new location.
  2. MLSE will never, ever, sell their stake in MLS. Remember that unlike Impact and Whitecap Ownerships, TFC directly generates content for the media outlets of their Bell/Rogers owners. They will be the equivalent of the Raptors and Jays - holding the "Canada's Team" flag in a US league. Saputo, otoh, has Bologna in Serie A to satiate his Div 1 cravings, if needed. The Whitecaps are having troubles with their organization but I still don't see them moving to CPL. There is too much rivalry invested with their Cascadia counterparts to leave easily.
  3. There is: The front office sales and ticket staff for the Fury are shared with the 67s and RedBlacks. There are separate locker rooms and training rooms for RedBlacks and Fury players underneath the new south stands.
  4. I would agree with you if I hadn't had interactions with both sides of the fence. I think at this point even if it makes business sense and the Fury beg and plead to join the CPL in the future, the CPL will not let them in as the organization is currently constructed.
  5. We lost almost an entire Supporter's group over the Fury not joining CPL and it's showing in the stadium vibe. Attendance looks low, but it usually is until it gets warmer. As I've said elsewhere, the JdG sounded pretty conciliatory at the SSH meeting last month, but at a CPL presentation the following week a CPL staff member was not. Nobody cares to mend fences for what is best for Canadian soccer - this has become personal. It's the same crap that 's been dogging Canadian development for decades with too many egos involved.
  6. Don't sell these leagues short. Blainville played the Ottawa Fury close last year - we barely scraped by. People who are expecting blowouts between Div 3, CPL, and Fury clubs are going to be disappointed.
  7. https://twitter.com/24thminute/status/1129038328903413763 Sigh. Definitely personal now.
  8. I used to live around there in Whitby. Bayly and Church is pretty close to the Ajax Go Train Station as well, so shuttle buses to the stadium should be doable. I get the feeling that they'd probably be affiliated with Darby FC from L1O as well to provide a pipeline of players.
  9. The extra splits were to create a more regionalized lower division, assuming that one of the main limiters of getting new teams into the league being travel and accommodations costs. The third split moves Div 2 from a national to a more regional grouping with less travel involved. The fourth split could either make completely regionalized Div 2 or a stepping-stone semi-regionalized Div 2 with a regionalized Div 3. The former would require less teams overall, but there might be a club financial shock going from regional to national travel. The latter would provide a buffer to lessen the financial travel shock, but would require more teams to fill Div 3. That said, this is all looking far into the future. If the league proves viable, they wouldn't do the first split until around the 2026WC, the second split wouldn't happen until 10 years after that, and the third split wouldn't happen until 10 years after that (if at all), say, 2046.
  10. To answer all the 'no <insert municipality here>?' I was just musing if there was a closed system like MLS and a limited number of games we can play per season in our climate, then those clubs are what I think would have the widest national footprint. Throw Pro-rel and lower divisions into the mix and anyone can join at that point. To grow the CPL in teams, I'd probably divide it into phases: Phase 1: 8-16 teams, single table, 28 games, apertura/clausura format, Single Division. Phase 2, First Split: Div 1 - 8-10 teams, single table, 28 games, two last-place clubs get relegated; Div 2 - 8-16 teams, single table, 28 games, top 4 clubs have playoffs to determine who is promoted to Div 1. Phase 3, Conference Split: Div 1 - 10-15 teams, single table, 28 games, two last place clubs get relegated; Div 2 - 3 Conferences (West/Central/East) of 4-7 teams each, 28 games, play one game against each opposing conference and remaining games in-conference, top club in each conference and team with next-best overall record have playoffs to determine who is promoted to Div 1. Phase 4, Conference Isolation: Div 1 - 15-16 teams, single table, 28-30 games balanced schedule, three last place clubs get relegated; Div 2 - 3 Regional Divisions of 7-15 teams each, 28 games, all games in-division, playoffs between top two teams in each region to determine who gets promoted to Div 1 (ensures that each region of Canada will have a steady influx of teams to Div 1 and limit Ontario domination, may lead to regional teams unprepared for national travel requirements). Phase 4 Alternate, Div 2 Split: Div 1 - 15-16 teams, single table, 28-30 games balanced schedule, three last place clubs get relegated; Div 2 - 3 Conferences of 6 teams each, 28 games, play one game against each opposing conference and remaining games in-conference, playoffs between top two teams in each conference to determine who gets promoted to Div 1, bottom team in each conference gets relegated to regional Div 3; Div 3 - 3 Regional Divisions of 7-13 teams each, 24 games, all games in-division, playoffs between top two teams in each region to determine who gets promoted to Div 2 (provides a buffer for clubs to get used to national travel, may require reshuffling of Div 2 Conferences after every season and may not limit Ontario domination). At all levels, a club in the safe zone may choose to voluntarily relegate at the end of season or a playoff winning club may choose to not be promoted, in which case the highest-placed team in the relegation zone will not be relegated.
  11. I know this isn't going to be a closed league and eventually there will be pro-rel, but if we were to be stuck with 16 teams in single-table balanced perpetuity, I would choose Pacific FC, Mainland BCFC, FC Edmonton, Calvary FC, Saskatchewan FC, Valour FC, London FC, Kitchener-Waterloo FC, Forge FC, York 9 FC, Ottawa Fury, FC Laval, FC Quebec, Moncton FC, HFX Wanderers, St. John's FC. That pretty much covers the nation geographically, population-wise, and rivalry-wise.
  12. Voted, now at 7,233. Just behind the French 3rd Division. There's a noticeable vote gap between CanPL and the leagues below it now though.
  13. I just wonder what this does for the possibility of an Ottawa Fury bid to join CPL. They might consider the cost prohibitive now, concidering how much money they're losing per season. I wonder if they joined if they would be in for a portion of the media rights revenue?
  14. League 1 Ontario has their clubs starting a U-21 reserve league, so I assume that's where a lot of U-20 up-and-comers will play. https://www.league1ontario.com/news_article/show/1008974 Ontario seems to have the most concrete pathway to the pros atm.
  15. I was at the game in the supporters section and that picture is kind of disingenuous - it doesn't show the larger group of people sitting in the black pricing Sections N, M, W and X. At the Cheapest price point, they've moved those seats to a General Admission format and W and M had some of the larger groupings of fans. But the reported number felt accurate. This spring has been pretty bad so I can understand people wanting to be out with their families that day. Now if these numbers are still like this come June, I'd start to worry. that said, the play looked a little better than last year so I have hope that the product will be entertaining this season.
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