matty Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 17 minutes ago, jpg75 said: Don't hold your breath on that. Orlando has a financial incentive (66% of transfer fee vs. 50%) to keep him one more year. Very true. Unless the offer is 8-10m i don't see him moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boominbooty Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Glad they are doing a camp and having a pre-camp in the US before going to Bermuda. It will be good to have some of the peripheral players be able to challenge and make the squad so they can travel wit the team for the game. Sets up good internal competition. I am disappointed by the location of the game though. Bermuda is first world with top quality infrastructure. Also, the weather at that time of year will be very temperate. and finally, despite their best efforts, Bermuda doe not have a high quality team. It is tough when they have such a minuscule population. This won't be the test our players need. A camp in the States followed by another camp in Nicaragua, Guyana, Haiti etc would have been more of a challenge. Hotter weather and worse infrastructure and arguably stronger teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, Boominbooty said: I am disappointed by the location of the game though. Bermuda is first world with top quality infrastructure. Also, the weather at that time of year will be very temperate. and finally, despite their best efforts, Bermuda doe not have a high quality team. It is tough when they have such a minuscule population. This won't be the test our players need. A camp in the States followed by another camp in Nicaragua, Guyana, Haiti etc would have been more of a challenge. Hotter weather and worse infrastructure and arguably stronger teams. I think this isn't so much a test as a looker camp. Mostly youngster and newbies showing what they got. If it is then I'd say this is the perfect team for that but if we see ricketts, haber, edgar, de jong, ledge, johnson, hutch and other 27+ guys go then yes this is a waste. I am pleased it's not neutral turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I want Chapman to make his debut here. Mo Babouli too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Crepeau Thomas Monsalve Pasher Adekugbe Stanese James Vitoria Aird Ouimette Trafford Chapman Tiebert Bekker Bustos Osorio Shome Babouli Larin Hamilton Cox Akindele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, tarnado1555362291 said: Crepeau Thomas Monsalve Pasher Adekugbe Stanese James Vitoria Aird Ouimette Trafford Chapman Tiebert Bekker Bustos Osorio Shome Babouli Larin Hamilton Cox Akindele Would Vitoria be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I know the opponent isn't the strongest side, but I think any regulars that'll be around for next cycle should see action. That would be De Jong, Edgar, Johnson, Straith and Ricketts. I know there is a desire to give young fringe guys a look, but there must be a balance. Not simply to ensure a win, but to maintain and build chemistry in the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Obinna said: Would Vitoria be available? Yes Poland takes a long winter break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 On 09/12/2016 at 6:33 AM, Obinna said: I want Chapman to make his debut here. Mo Babouli too. How do I half-"like" a post? Want to see Chapman there, but Bobouli is still a little too far down the pecking order for him to get a call - would rather he earn it a year or so down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 59 minutes ago, BCM1555362349 said: How do I half-"like" a post? Want to see Chapman there, but Bobouli is still a little too far down the pecking order for him to get a call - would rather he earn it a year or so down the line. Bobouli should have been called over the summer. There were a few games where he was one of the best players on the pitch (the same cannot be said for Chapman who looked solid but never stood out). He's a little rough now but he's worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I want to see Osorio and Teibert there. With De Guzman and Hutchinson departing the team we need central midfielders and those 2 are the best that we have entering their prime right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, matty said: Bobouli should have been called over the summer. There were a few games where he was one of the best players on the pitch (the same cannot be said for Chapman who looked solid but never stood out). He's a little rough now but he's worth a look. I don't think that Babouli was worthy of a call-up this summer. He had one or two good game sfor TFC this year. . I think Chapman is more deserving than Babouli. He was more consistent in his games when called upon. I don't know how many players will train with the senior team, but if you have 25 players, I don't mind if both are called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Blackdude said: I don't think that Babouli was worthy of a call-up this summer. He had one or two good game sfor TFC this year. . I think Chapman is more deserving than Babouli. He was more consistent in his games when called upon. I don't know how many players will train with the senior team, but if you have 25 players, I don't mind if both are called. Yeah I agree that Chapman deserves a call more than Babouli, but I think there's room for both. Babouli is wildly inconsistent, but he brings an unpredictable attacking element that we sorely lack, especially without Hoilett or Nakajima in the fold. I am assuming that Nakajima is done by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 39 minutes ago, Obinna said: Nakajima is done by the way... #CANMNT official artist/painter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I hope he's still included, but he hasn't been called since we were eliminated, so his chances of a future call up are small if you ask me, let alone a camp poutine call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 7 hours ago, Blackdude said: I don't think that Babouli was worthy of a call-up this summer. He had one or two good game sfor TFC this year. . I think Chapman is more deserving than Babouli. He was more consistent in his games when called upon. I don't know how many players will train with the senior team, but if you have 25 players, I don't mind if both are called. I feel Chapman is more consistent but ultimately offers less than Babouli. It's important to note with Babouli that when he was on he WAS ON and as noted by @Obinna he brings an unpredictability Canada is sorely lacking. He also brings more energy into the game IMO and could be difference maker. I think both deserve calls but would be more interested in Mo in spite of Chap's consistency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Babouli is one of those X-Factor types we could use coming off the bench if we need a goal. I'd like to see him included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The fact that there's plenty of options now is encouraging. I remember that 2013 Camp Poutine roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 9 hours ago, matty said: I feel Chapman is more consistent but ultimately offers less than Babouli. It's important to note with Babouli that when he was on he WAS ON and as noted by @Obinna he brings an unpredictability Canada is sorely lacking. He also brings more energy into the game IMO and could be difference maker. I think both deserve calls but would be more interested in Mo in spite of Chap's consistency Yes he's unpredictable, but a difference maker? When Larin, a proven goal-scorer, doesn't score in an international game he get's tons of critic, but you expect Babouli to be the kingpin? He's scored exactly 0 goals in MLS (and USL) this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 10 hours ago, shamrock said: Yes he's unpredictable, but a difference maker? When Larin, a proven goal-scorer, doesn't score in an international game he get's tons of critic, but you expect Babouli to be the kingpin? He's scored exactly 0 goals in MLS (and USL) this season... I never said anything about how I expect him to be a difference maker, I said he could be one. He brings not only unpredictability but an energy Canada is sometimes lacking. All that said he's very rough. @jpg75 used a better term for it with x-factor. He might prove highly valuable and might prove meh or shit. The one way to find out: call him up. While he had zero goals, he still had as many as Chapman in MLS and USL in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I actually agree that he has something scrappy about him, sorta like a poor-man's Suarez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 19 hours ago, shamrock said: Yes he's unpredictable, but a difference maker? When Larin, a proven goal-scorer, doesn't score in an international game he get's tons of critic, but you expect Babouli to be the kingpin? He's scored exactly 0 goals in MLS (and USL) this season... Babouli is not going to be the kingpin. Nobody is saying that. Nobody is saying he is going to out preform Larin. What we are saying is that he has characteristics we sorely lack. Not saying he's an incredible player. It's like Bustos. Hasn't done anything yet in MLS but has a skill set that we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Obinna said: Babouli is not going to be the kingpin. Nobody is saying that. Nobody is saying he is going to out preform Larin. What we are saying is that he has characteristics we sorely lack. Not saying he's an incredible player. It's like Bustos. Hasn't done anything yet in MLS but has a skill set that we need. yes. yes. yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I'm hoping to see some fresh, younger faces in this camp ahead of mid 20s incumbents who are sitting on the bench or the press box during matches at domestic club level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 13 hours ago, BearcatSA said: I'm hoping to see some fresh, younger faces in this camp ahead of mid 20s incumbents who are sitting on the bench or the press box during matches at domestic club level. Most of the young guys we'd call are doing the same thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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