Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 48 minutes ago, Kingston said: Great to see this level of attendance even though the game was played out of season and in the cold... It was Chivas who are one of Mexico's big two along with Club America. This fixture was going to draw a good crowd because of the number of people from Mexico who live in reasonably nearby US states and to an extent also southern Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Chivas hasn't been in Concacaf Champions since 2018, which is pretty wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 48 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: It was Chivas who are one of Mexico's big two along with Club America. This fixture was going to draw a good crowd because of the number of people from Mexico who live in reasonably nearby US states and to an extent also southern Ontario. I have no doubt the opponent helped - both because of Chivas fans from the area and because a Mexican team is a bigger draw than, say, a Honduran team. Still a good crowd. Metro and longlugan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, shorty said: I am assuming they ruled he interfered with the play? He definitely didn’t obscure the keepers view on the subsequent shot. Yes, that's what it appeared to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Great attendance if for nothing else for Forge to put some scratch in their pockets. I think people lose sight of the fact that besides the glory the primary reason for teams all around the world to qualify for continental tournaments is to make money johnyb and Kingston 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 9 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: Great attendance if for nothing else for Forge to put some scratch in their pockets. I think people lose sight of the fact that besides the glory the primary reason for teams all around the world to qualify for continental tournaments is to make money Agreed. And to give valuable minutes to squad players in many cases. Meaningful minutes is huge, imo. If you are a non-qualifying CPL team and you lose your first Vs Cup match there are precious few paydays or minute grabs with just the regular season ahead of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) People who say the CPL won't work are really saying the CPL won't create enough revenue to sustain itself. Well what's 35×11,000? Not so simple I know but nice way to start the season for a team with a salary cap of around $1,125,000 Edited February 8 by SpursFlu Senorpopps, johnyb and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 24 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: People who say the CPL won't work are really saying the CPL won't create enough revenue to sustain itself. Well what's 35×11,000? Not so simple I know but nice way to start the season for a team with a salary cap of around $500,000 The salary cap is actually more like $1.1 million but, yes, a big crowd or two does fill up the revenue column nicely. This is where I'm hoping teams can start drawing big crowds for occasional big games (rivalry match, Canada Day special, whatever) even if they don't have a V-Cup or CCC match against a big drawing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 25 minutes ago, SpursFlu said: People who say the CPL won't work are really saying the CPL won't create enough revenue to sustain itself. Well what's 35×11,000? Not so simple I know but nice way to start the season for a team with a salary cap of around $500,000 $500,000 is a bit low! For the 2023 season clubs were required to spend between CA$750,000 and $1,125,000 on player compensation. https://canpl.ca/article/canadian-premier-league-announces-increases-to-salary-cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 9 minutes ago, K Edgar said: $500,000 is a bit low! For the 2023 season clubs were required to spend between CA$750,000 and $1,125,000 on player compensation. https://canpl.ca/article/canadian-premier-league-announces-increases-to-salary-cap Ok good.. I fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) The costs of the extra Mexico trip to prepare for this and opening THF in the middle of winter for a single game (almost certainly but never say never) won't have been trivial so think it needs an opponent like Chivas for this to be a moneyspinner. One thing I've not seen explained anywhere is how CanPL contracts work in this context. Are players on the hook to play in these games for their regular season salary or do they receive extra payments? Edited February 8 by Ozzie_the_parrot johnyb and nolando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 For sure if you draw some random MLS team you get half that number of you're lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 30 minutes ago, narduch said: For sure if you draw some random MLS team you get half that number of you're lucky I disagree but I guess we'll have to wait for the scenario to play out to know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 11 hours ago, shorty said: I am assuming they ruled he interfered with the play? He definitely didn’t obscure the keepers view on the subsequent shot. Think it was the initial pass first pass that was the problem. Schopf looks offside. But they didn't do a good job of replaying it or explaining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 14 hours ago, narduch said: Of the 5 CCC games this week, Forge had the highest attendance. Do you have the numbers for the other games? I couldn't find it with a quick check, but I did see that the only other stadium that hosted this week that could even fit that many fans is Communicaciones' stadium. I was surprised that Herediano's stadium is as small as it is (according to Wikipedia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) Double post. Edited February 9 by Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 22 minutes ago, Kent said: Do you have the numbers for the other games? I couldn't find it with a quick check, but I did see that the only other stadium that hosted this week that could even fit that many fans is Communicaciones' stadium. I was surprised that Herediano's stadium is as small as it is (according to Wikipedia). They are on Fotmob. I'm on my phone or I would type them all out. Communicaciones were the closest with 11,118 Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Communicaciones v Monterrey - 11,118 Real Esteli v America - 4,858 Herediano v Toluca - 3,372 Forge v Chivas - 11,513 Whitecaps v Tigres - 5,763 So the 3rd highest attendance was also in a CPL stadium. Metro, K Edgar, NVsoccer and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 22 hours ago, narduch said: Chivas hasn't been in Concacaf Champions since 2018, which is pretty wild While being a traditionally "big" club in Mexico with a massive following, Chivas haven't actually been "good" for a while. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 2/9/2024 at 5:04 AM, RS said: While being a traditionally "big" club in Mexico with a massive following, Chivas haven't actually been "good" for a while. I think its because their domestic rule has become an obstacle. Even using Americans of Mexican heritage is a bit of a sore spot for their supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 With all the splashy signings Ottawa has made, does anyone know if they have had an difference in ticket sales so far? Their average attendance has grown substantially each season, last season by almost 900 fans per game. Could they challenge for top attendance this year if the team on the field and maybe a promotion push are as successful as their offseason seems to have been? johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 45 minutes ago, Kent said: With all the splashy signings Ottawa has made, does anyone know if they have had an difference in ticket sales so far? Their average attendance has grown substantially each season, last season by almost 900 fans per game. Could they challenge for top attendance this year if the team on the field and maybe a promotion push are as successful as their offseason seems to have been? I don't think CPL attendance will be driven by offseason player signs very often. I don't think the caliber of player is at a level where it does that. nolando and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 On 4/5/2024 at 3:08 PM, Kent said: With all the splashy signings Ottawa has made, does anyone know if they have had an difference in ticket sales so far? Their average attendance has grown substantially each season, last season by almost 900 fans per game. Could they challenge for top attendance this year if the team on the field and maybe a promotion push are as successful as their offseason seems to have been? I doubt specific signings will move the needle. Winning will, though, which is what the team presumably hopes those signings will accomplish. Ottawa does have room to challenge for top attendance in the league. Last year's average of 4959 was their best ever and it is still ~10% below what the Fury drew in their best years. Even just getting back to the Fury's numbers (best year 5482) would put them close and I'd like to think they could top that. Watchmen and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihairokov Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Anecdotally, the Fury numbers might have been larger on paper but I find the CPL crowds much better. They feel more invested in the product and it helps to have actual, real away fans occasionally. Atletico ticket rep reached out to me a month ago to see if I had any interest in tickets this season, so they're on the ball at least. CDNFootballer and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 1 hour ago, Mihairokov said: Anecdotally, the Fury numbers might have been larger on paper but I find the CPL crowds much better. They feel more invested in the product and it helps to have actual, real away fans occasionally. Atletico ticket rep reached out to me a month ago to see if I had any interest in tickets this season, so they're on the ball at least. I hope you had interest.😁 Bison44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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