Addona Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm starting to think that being a CMNT fan is just an elaborate way to be in purgatory, Lost style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Maybe supporting QPR, TFC and Hearts have just hardened me to bad losses, I don't think I'm as angry or surprised as some on here about the result! We had a very young disorganized squad out there and we lost in a tournament that is experimental or compromised for most nations! I like Miller as a former player and for his passion towards our National Team but let me just say I'm sure happy we hired someone else! I didn't like the formation, substitutions or strategy in general but the players certainly don't go blameless! Did anyone think many of our players seemed to really be intimidated by this big physical team, many of our passes were hurried because of that! Maybe this will be enough for Miller to change the starting 11, that may have been in the plans all along as I think he does have a mandate to get these guys into the match! Bring on Mexico! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcs53 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Probably a minor point, but you can't cap tie players against Martinique. They aren't recognized by FIFA as a country. Discussed that one already in this thread. CONCACAF ruled that players could be cap-tied because this is a FIFA recognized tournament, but it doesn't really matter now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I wonder if Ventura County FC is excited to play Martinique to see if they can finish at the top of the group? Oh...wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchteveTown Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Yes - Nick plays Midfield for Hammarby. Edgar has played some RB as has Doneil Henry, but none of these are exactly prototypical fullbacks. With Hutch, we obviously have to play him in central mid. My point is we have only one single player in our pool who regularly plays RB. I think some people seem to forget how limited our pool really is. Honest to God, Dan Gargan would be a regular with our Nats - that is how thin we are. Given that, should anyone really be surprised we are struggling as we are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Oh great, not only did we lose to Guadeloupe B but now Google thinks I'm a criminal. What else can go wrong Al??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Discussed that one already in this thread. CONCACAF ruled that players could be cap-tied because this is a FIFA recognized tournament, but it doesn't really matter now. Sorry, jumped the gun. I'm surprised CONCACAF has the authority to make this determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolbertos Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Maybe supporting QPR, TFC and Hearts have just hardened me to bad losses, I don't think I'm as angry or surprised as some on here about the result! We had a very young disorganized squad out there and we lost in a tournament that is experimental or compromised for most nations! I like Miller as a former player and for his passion towards our National Team but let me just say I'm sure happy we hired someone else! I didn't like the formation, substitutions or strategy in general but the players certainly don't go blameless! Did anyone think many of our players seemed to really be intimidated by this big physical team, many of our passes were hurried because of that! Maybe this will be enough for Miller to change the starting 11, that may have been in the plans all along as I think he does have a mandate to get these guys into the match! Bring on Mexico! I doubt that, honestly. Canada's tactics were just horrible. Not stringing good passes today and always crossing for the wings hoping that somebody will head the ball to net. That was the strategy employed by Miller and yielded 0 goals. Martinique played a helluva game and deserved more goals than just a 1-0 win. Disorganized or not, alot of teams bring there B teams to the Gold Cup, so making it further should be Canada's goal to get a better FIFA ranking and give the kids confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It's not just the subs ... The players looked confused and there was clearly no plan going forward aside from "kick the ball way forward and hope for the best". That shouldn't happen after a 10 day camp. What I perpetually notice with out team is that if you squeeze out the easy options for our backline to pass to, we will quickly revert to long ball. It never fails. The midfield doesn't open up space quickly enough to create options and the defenders aren't confident enough to complete anything but an easy short pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Here's a classic quote from Miller RE: Rebuilding, "We can’t expect miracles." Beating Martinique is a miracle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 What else can go wrong Al??? Floro has an escape clause and invoked it just after Martinique scored their goal. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Here's a classic quote from Miller RE: Rebuilding, "We can’t expect miracles." Beating Martinique is a miracle now. Please tell me this isn't the after-match interview? My god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolbertos Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Here's a classic quote from Miller RE: Rebuilding, "We can’t expect miracles." Beating Martinique is a miracle now. Wow, if true. Things look so "bright" for Canada now [/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Guys, this team at its best has been absolutely terrible for years. We were extremely lucky to beat Guadeloupe in 2011 with a stronger lineup, remember? Let's have some perspective. Colin Miller has nothing to do with this being a generation of underperforming garbage players. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Guys, this team at its best has been absolutely terrible for years. We were extremely lucky to beat Guadeloupe in 2011 with a stronger lineup, remember? Let's have some perspective. Colin Miller has nothing to do with this being a generation of underperforming garbage players. Nothing. Nobody told him to field the lineup that he did or organize tactically the way he has. You can't simply lump all that on the players. Our pool isn't deep, but I won't accept that it isn't capable of more than we saw today. He keeps going back the to the same things that have failed in previous games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Guys, this team at its best has been absolutely terrible for years. We were extremely lucky to beat Guadeloupe in 2011 with a stronger lineup, remember? Let's have some perspective. Colin Miller has nothing to do with this being a generation of underperforming garbage players. Nothing. What ag says is accurate. Also, I have to ask, you have no problem with waiting until the 86' to bring on the 2nd sub in a situation like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 The Floro hire makes this easier to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Guys, this team at its best has been absolutely terrible for years. We were extremely lucky to beat Guadeloupe in 2011 with a stronger lineup, remember? Let's have some perspective. Colin Miller has nothing to do with this being a generation of underperforming garbage players. Nothing. Except he's been a youth coach in this country for a generation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Thought the game was a at 1:00 PDT but when I found out it was at 2:30 I opted to finished all my yard work then visit family. Very pleased that I didn't waste 2 hours of my life on this match. Saw the highlights. Great goal to win it but right now, I see Wikipedia is adding a new definition for the term "nadir," featuring a picture of our players walking off the pitch after the final whistle of this clusterfu*k. Also, just found this picture of Floro after the game: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q9KwENLpojc/TVyTwffZlJI/AAAAAAAAAJw/wk0mNu2cePw/s1600/facepalm.jpg (gotta have a laugh...beats crying!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Future CanWNT Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Next he'll be saying beating a PDL would be a miracle... Oh wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcs53 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Here's one quote from Miller after the game: "We will need pick ourselves up, review all of the little things we can improve and ensure that we put in a better performance on Thursday." Sad that he thinks there are just little things that need improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm just sick to ****ing death of the annual "blame the coach"-a-palooza that's been going on here for as long as I've been on this board. Coach after coach, it never changes, the only constant for every disgrace is the men on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJO Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm just sick to ****ing death of the annual "blame the players"-a-palooza that's been going on here for as long as I've been on this board. Player after player, it never changes, the only constant for every disgrace is the man on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm just sick to ****ing death of the annual "blame the players"-a-palooza that's been going on here for as long as I've been on this board. Player after player, it never changes, the only constant for every disgrace is the man on the sidelines. Nah, coaches change. The players, well they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm just sick to ****ing death of the annual "blame the coach"-a-palooza that's been going on here for as long as I've been on this board. Coach after coach, it never changes, the only constant for every disgrace is the men on the field. +1. It wasn't Colin Miller's fault that just about every time the slightest bit of pressure was applied today our players panicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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