Razcal Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) You are all wise people here, I’ve noticed a bit of a trend lately. A few CMNT supporters have been popping up on my Twitter feeds of fans who have gone to Qatar, it seems by reading through the posts that many of these people seem to have had their trips paid for? Whats up with that? Can’t be CSA or CSB paying for their trips to the WC. Are these the “paid fans” that have been alluded to in the past? Edited November 21, 2022 by Razcal Typo narduch, Free kick and nolando 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Razcal said: You are all wise people here, I’ve noticed a bit of a trend lately. A few CMNT supporters have been popping up on my Twitter feeds of fans who have gone to Qatar, it seems by reading through the posts that many of these people seem to have had their trips paid for? Whats up with that? Can’t be CSA or CSB paying for their trips to the WC. Are these the “paid fans” that have been alluded to in the past? Probably paid for by Qatar. I don't know what it is, but there is a guy calling himself the Canada 'fan leader' on Twitter. He seems annoying as hell sstackho, canadasoccer20, Gian-Luca and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcal Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Nef is one of the people, but yeah I think that guy has been popping up on my feeds too. Edited November 21, 2022 by Razcal Fixing grammar narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Razcal said: Nef is one of the people, but yeah I think that guy has been popping up on my feeds too. I had read Qatar was giving away trips to 'fan leaders' as long as they helped with the sports washing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Lee Kormish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Qatar has reached out to fan organizations to pay fans in exchange for sharing "good information" about Qatar, as well as reporting people saying bad things about them. Here's the application form: https://fanengagement.qa/ In this DW article, they actually talk about how a French supporter turned down the offer, while this Canada supporter- Lee Kormish- is that the annoying fan leader on twitter- accepted the offer. I also read that a lot of American supporters turned the offer down. too. 1 minute ago, RS said: Lee Kormish? Apparently this is the guy. Yeah, he's a paid fan. Can't say I'm the biggest CANMNT culture knower, but it is strange that our apparent "fan leader" is only followed on twitter by Canada Soccer + Thomas Nef. I would assume a few of the many reporters and podcasts, fan organizations that I follow would've given him a follow if he really was a big name in the culture. 9 minutes ago, Razcal said: Thomas Nef is one of the people, but yeah I think that guy has been popping up on my feeds too. Nef is a paid fan? I wonder if that might explain his absence from the podcast over the last few weeks. NF had a considerably long segment on their last episode about a lot of the issues with Qatar, especially considering Galindo is also there. Edited November 21, 2022 by InglewoodJack vancanman and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ally McCoist Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Thomas Nef is being incredibly suspicious. It sounds like he's been paid by Qatar along with Lee Kormish. I'm not a fan of this at all. Shway, Califax, Greatest Cockney Rip Off and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstackho Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) The @CanMNTOnly Twitter account is also sponsored. Which means having to avoid posts like this: Edited November 21, 2022 by sstackho narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgamba10 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Sportswashing at its finest. Embarrassing from everyone involved. Greatest Cockney Rip Off, canadasoccer20, Pottsy3 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ally McCoist said: Thomas Nef is being incredibly suspicious. It sounds like he's been paid by Qatar along with Lee Kormish. I'm not a fan of this at all. In case anyone was still curious: Kormish is a paid fan. This pretty much confirms Nef is too. He’s being cagey in the comments (not a paid fan!!! Yeah sure, but you aren’t a paying fan either!). CANMNTonly also similarly vague in his comments too. Edit: didn’t see all of this was already posted- my bad. it’s bad enough to accept a bribe from Qatar, but to do this as a journalist without divulging it is blatant malpractice. Hope Nef addresses it, because I like his work. Edited November 21, 2022 by InglewoodJack Mattd97, narduch and Greatest Cockney Rip Off 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally McCoist Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Some real shady stuff going on. And I'm disappointed that members of the Voyageurs are a part of this. Edited November 21, 2022 by Ally McCoist Mattd97, Stryker911, kacbru and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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narduch Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, Ally McCoist said: Some real shady stuff going on. And I'm disappointed that members of the Voyageurs are a part of this. What's Lee's Voyageurs handle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 He doesn’t have one. Pottsy3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, JamboAl said: He doesn’t have one. So what is he even a leader of? Dude has a thousand Twitter followers. Qatar really wasting money on this chump jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggietfc Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 anyone know how many canadian fans will be in the stands on weds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I’ve not been against the World Cup in Qatar as I believe it needs to be held in all areas of the world and by having it there, we’ve heard far more about the Qatari regime then if they hadn’t been awarded the tournament. It’s also given the Qatari’s plenty of rope on the world stage in which to hang themselves and exposed fifa as even more corrupt and in competent (not that it is likely to change them). But these “paid fans” should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of exposing issues they are fighting to cover them up. Also a massive fuck you to this lee fellow claiming to be the leader of the Canadian fans. You lead no one and should make it very clear you have no connection to any football group in this country. narduch, Shway, gator and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, narduch said: So what is he even a leader of? Dude has a thousand Twitter followers. Qatar really wasting money on this chump Let me clarify my last response, he doesn’t have a handle on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I wonder what the impact of these "paid fans" is going to be, long term. No clue who this Kormish guy is, I assume Qatar chose one particularly excited fan, made them capo, and had them put together the roster of paid fans, but for journalists- will their reputation take the appropriate knock? I've always thought soccer culture in canada is a lot like my experience growing up playing in punk bands. It's DIY, everyone is a few degrees of separation apart, no mainstream media attention, and you get involved for the love of the game and not because you think you'll make money out of it. Then you take a reporter who decides to act as a PR mouthpiece for Qatar, and then returns home, business as usual? When there's less interest in soccer- fast forward to 2024 when this world cup is squarely in the rear view and the next is still a ways away, I wonder if this will harm the reporters who sold out. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, narduch said: So what is he even a leader of? Dude has a thousand Twitter followers. Qatar really wasting money on this chump FWIW he's a reporter in Saskatoon and his YouTube channel has a little over 2k followers. Certainly not deserving of being called fan leader or whatever, but he does have somewhat of an audience. Quick YouTube search shows that some of his 2018 world cup videos got almost 500k views, so he does have a reach, albeit not as part of the voyageurs, it seems. Edited November 21, 2022 by InglewoodJack narduch and Pottsy3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, narduch said: So what is he even a leader of? Dude has a thousand Twitter followers. Qatar really wasting money on this chump But according to above, he is being followed by Soccer Canada twitter. I'd like to see the Whoregraves treatment applied to Nef and others on here. Stryker911 and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: I wonder what the impact of these "paid fans" is going to be, long term. No clue who this Kormish guy is, I assume Qatar chose one particularly excited fan, made them capo, and had them put together the roster of paid fans, but for journalists- will their reputation take the appropriate knock? I've always thought soccer culture in canada is a lot like my experience growing up playing in punk bands. It's DIY, everyone is a few degrees of separation apart, no mainstream media attention, and you get involved for the love of the game and not because you think you'll make money out of it. Then you take a reporter who decides to act as a PR mouthpiece for Qatar, and then returns home, business as usual? When there's less interest in soccer- fast forward to 2024 when this world cup is squarely in the rear view and the next is still a ways away, I wonder if this will harm the reporters who sold out. So now I am wondering if Nef had a falling out with Galindo over this Edited November 21, 2022 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, narduch said: So now I am wondering if Nef had a falling out with Galindo over this Both are at the World Cup, neither have acknowledged one another, NF has a new cohost, they also did a segment criticizing Qatar…. Don’t want to speculate, but something might be up narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, InglewoodJack said: Both are at the World Cup, neither have acknowledged one another, NF has a new cohost, they also did a segment criticizing Qatar…. Don’t want to speculate, but something might be up And Nef hasn't been on the podcast for a few weeks now InglewoodJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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