Kent Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 4 hours ago, BradMack said: If we ever want to progress this kind of situation is inevitable. These are the teams that are ahead of us in Concacaf. I would say theyre tier 2, we're probably tier 3, with Mexico, USA and probably Costa Rica being the top class teams. But our youth teams seem to have a lot more promise now, I'm more confident in them then our senior team these days. Regarding our youth teams having more promise now. I just had to point out Canada's record at the U20 level. U-20 World Cup record Year Result Position Pld W D L GF GA 1977 Did not qualify 1979 Group stage 13th of 16 3 1 0 2 3 5 1981 Did not qualify 1983 1985 Group stage 14th of 16 3 0 1 2 0 7 1987 Group stage 12th of 16 3 0 2 1 4 5 1989 Did not qualify 1991 1993 1995 1997 Round of 16 13th of 24 4 1 1 2 3 5 1999 Did not qualify 2001 Group stage 24th of 24 3 0 0 3 0 9 2003 Quarter-finals 8th of 24 5 2 0 3 4 6 2005 Group stage 21st of 24 3 0 1 2 2 7 2007 Group Stage 24th of 24 3 0 0 3 0 6 2009 Did not qualify 2011 2013 2015 2017 To be determined Total Quarter-finals 8/20 27 4 5 18 16 50 Not exactly a sterling record for us in qualifying (ironically enough, since MLS expanded into Canada). I suppose the same could be said about our record during the CSL days of the late 80's and early 90's. Anyways, hopefully the drought ends next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 It seems we did better when we didn't have a league or the MLS....perhaps it was because it was easier to get the side together for friendlies and training leading up to the qualification...I have sometimes felt that is one of our biggest disadvantages in qualifying as unlike the central American clubs, we can get national teams together mid week for some training throughout the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 55 minutes ago, An Observer said: It seems we did better when we didn't have a league or the MLS....perhaps it was because it was easier to get the side together for friendlies and training leading up to the qualification...I have sometimes felt that is one of our biggest disadvantages in qualifying as unlike the central American clubs, we can get national teams together mid week for some training throughout the season FIFA changing the rules is probably the biggest problem we've faced recently. Once upon a time U20 players had to be released for qualifiers, but that changed in 2013 (i believe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 One last preparation camp for the U-17s will take place from March 27th to April 9th: http://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-soccer-s-men-s-u-17-preparation-camp--p160673-preview-1 Mostly either domestic-based or guys who have participated in the U17 programme already, but one new and interesting addition is former Croatian U16 international Matthew Laic who is currently with Dinamo Zagreb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Here is full list for easy reference. CANADA U-17GK- Gianluca Catalano | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyGK- Evan Ince | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC U-16 ResidencyGK- Sebastian Sgarbossa | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyCB- Julian Dunn-Johnson | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyCB- Yohan Le Bourhis | CAN / Académie Impact de MontréalCB- Antonio Rocco Romeo | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyCB- Karifa Yao | CAN / Académie Impact de MontréalFB- Gabriel Escobar | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC U-16 ResidencyFB- Émile Legault | FRA / AJ AuxerreFB- Monti Mohsen | CAN / Ottawa Internationals SCFB- Jake Ruby | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC U-16 ResidencyM- Michael Baldisimo | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC 2M- Olakunle Dada-Luke | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyM- Jordan Faria | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyM- Benson Fazili | CAN / Ottawa Internationals SCM- Alessandro Hojabrpour | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC U-16 ResidencyM- Terique Mohammed | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyM- Noble Okello | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyM- Luca Petrasso | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyM- Steffen Yeates | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyF- Zakaria Abdi | CAN / Toronto FC AcademyF- Jonathan David | CAN / Ottawa Internationals SCF- José Hernández | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC U-16 ResidencyF- Matthew Laic | CRO / GNK Dinamo Zagreb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 If you're counting... 11 from TFC 5 from Whitecaps 3 from Ottawa Internationals (I wonder if they were former fury players) 2 from Montreal Montreal continues to surprise me with the continued dismal amount of players contributed to the YNT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: 3 from Ottawa Internationals (I wonder if they were former fury players) They aren't, although the Fury did invite David and Fazili to train with their first team last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, Zem said: They aren't, although the Fury did invite David and Fazili to train with their first team last season. Thanks.... The way the fury cut their youth program is embarrassing, considering the amount of players that have come from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: Thanks.... The way the fury cut their youth program is embarrassing, considering the amount of players that have come from there. they didn't really have a good relationship with the local clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 39 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: Thanks.... The way the fury cut their youth program is embarrassing, considering the amount of players that have come from there. Yeah it was an awful decision, the transition toward being a proper professional academy was slow, but now they're going to have to start again from scratch... which is ironically going to cost a lot of money and take a long time to start paying off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 What happened with the fury's academy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: What happened with the fury's academy ? They shut it down, apparently temporarily. They haven't indicated when they plan to relaunch it, but it evidently isn't a priority for the ownership anymore. The club hasn't generated nearly as much revenue as expected, so that's presumably what was behind the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Zem said: They shut it down, apparently temporarily. They haven't indicated when they plan to relaunch it, but it evidently isn't a priority for the ownership anymore. The club hasn't generated nearly as much revenue as expected, so that's presumably what was behind the move. I presume it was a for profit academy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Given the high probability of CPL, that not incredibly forward thinking. They'd have a leg start on most clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 the strange thing is, youth development could just be a means of revenue for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Why do we never see players from Sigma on these teams? Is this to do with Ontario Soccer only looking at certain academies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Ruffian said: Why do we never see players from Sigma on these teams? Is this to do with Ontario Soccer only looking at certain academies? I can't see any other reason, but happy to be told otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toje Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Matthew Laic played 3 matches with the Croatian U16 team last year, so interesting to see his call up to Canadian camp. http://hns-cff.hr/en/players/401609/matthew-anton-laic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Ruffian said: Why do we never see players from Sigma on these teams? Is this to do with Ontario Soccer only looking at certain academies? My thoughts exactly, they're arguably the best academy in Canada. Wait maybe Whitecaps are better, atleast they've produced more players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 team announced... http://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-announces-squad-for-concacaf-men-s-under-17-championship-p160714-preview-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 And no Davies . I wasn't really expecting him but would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Hopefully the TFC academy U16 team did well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 yeah a ton of Toronto FC kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Ryan Amorim is a welcome surprise. He hasn't been involved with the U17 national team yet, but he participated in a U15 ID camp 2 years ago when he still lived in Kitchener. He's now with Vitoria de Setubal in Portugal apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Apparently Hernandez is very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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