nolando Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Great just great... how ridiculous is that?! A world cup qualifying year and a confederations cup Gold Cup tournament and we are going to have TWO friendlies leading up to the Gold Cup?!? Not just two friendlies but two european friendlies, I doubt we get MLS players for Belarus... ah well guess we'll just put the full team together in WCQ right... Agreed...this is just shocking. This situation isn't getting any better - in fact I think it's getting worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew W Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Agreed...this is just shocking. This situation isn't getting any better - in fact I think it's getting worse. ^This. And why I agree is simply because qualifying for a World Cup is more and more difficult each time out. The stakes in terms of preparation and financing continue to go upward while Canada's outlook continues to lag behind and stagnate. We seem to lack ambition and that does not translate well to the fence-sitting prospects who have other international opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto MB Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 we talked with the team manager before the game and he wasn't really optimistic about another friendly before GC. Are you talking about the prospective Belarus match? Because Stephen said it was just a matter of 'crossing the t's and dotting the i's" on Tuesday. The match will almost certainly be announced by the CSA shortly: The interview: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Are you talking about the prospective Belarus match? Because Stephen said it was just a matter of 'crossing the t's and dotting the i's" on Tuesday. The match will almost certainly be announced by the CSA shortly: The interview: I think he means another on top of the Belarus friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 ^^ yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshieScores Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 it appears to be official... it's on FIFA calendar now. http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Great just great... how ridiculous is that?! A world cup qualifying year and a confederations cup Gold Cup tournament and we are going to have TWO friendlies leading up to the Gold Cup?!? Not just two friendlies but two european friendlies, I doubt we get MLS players for Belarus... ah well guess we'll just put the full team together in WCQ right... Although I completely agree I believe it takes alot of work and especially cash to set up friendlies. I would love to see more games but in reality I think the CSA is doing the best they can. I was at the Greece game and the stadium was about 90% full with the capacity being only 17K. I'm not sure how much tickets were but I can't imagine they were more than 10 or 15 euros, maybe Jeremy or PCA know. I imagine that in alot of these cases the CSA ends up paying to play these games because unfortunately we're not much of a draw. Just specualtion on my part, if anybody has any idea as to how the process actually works I'm sure theres alot of us who'd love to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Hart did mention to Max in his interview that money (or lack of it) is a factor in arranging friendlies. We should keep in mind how expensive this year is already. We've got 6 world cup qualifiers in the fall and possibly (hopefully;)) 6 gold cup matches on deck in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto MB Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Although I completely agree I believe it takes alot of work and especially cash to set up friendlies. I would love to see more games but in reality I think the CSA is doing the best they can. I was at the Greece game and the stadium was about 90% full with the capacity being only 17K. I'm not sure how much tickets were but I can't imagine they were more than 10 or 15 euros, maybe Jeremy or PCA know. I imagine that in alot of these cases the CSA ends up paying to play these games because unfortunately we're not much of a draw. Just specualtion on my part, if anybody has any idea as to how the process actually works I'm sure theres alot of us who'd love to know. That's typically not the case Matt. The host nation almost always picks up the bill for the away team for a friendly. Safe to say Canada's transport and accommodation costs for the match were likely completely covered by Greece in this case. While the turnout wasn't massive, approx, 16K, I would venture a guess that it was still a profitable affair for the Greek FA. Decent money from ticket sales, extra match day revenue (concessions, beer, merchandise, etc..) and potentially some tv money..... The problem for Canada is that we can barely ever guarantee that hosting a home friendly will turn a profit. See Peru and Honduras back in September.... This is why we 'prefer' to play on the road, it's a less risky business. But, of course, there is never the opportunity for us to make a profit by doing so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdroze Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 This is why we 'prefer' to play on the road, it's a less risky business. But, of course, there is never the opportunity for us to make a profit by doing so... Or have home-field advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 And by playing road friendlies we run the risk of not being asked to play, that's probably the main reason we have missed FIFA dates on our calendar. You're not always going to find an opponent that wants to a) play you and pay your costs 10 times a year indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Do you know for certain that the CSA lost money on both friendlies? I know that was a foregone conclusion for the Montreal game (pitifully small attendance and cheap tickets) but I would have thought that money was made on the game at BMO (decent attenance, more realistic ticket prices). Please let us know what you know! I know the tickets we had in our section we're reasonably priced but I think that was a result of Jamie pulling some strings and the rest of the tickets for the game were way over priced IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Do you know for certain that the CSA lost money on both friendlies? I know that was a foregone conclusion for the Montreal game (pitifully small attendance and cheap tickets) but I would have thought that money was made on the game at BMO (decent attenance, more realistic ticket prices). Please let us know what you know! I know the tickets we had in our section we're reasonably priced but I think that was a result of Jamie pulling some strings and the rest of the tickets for the game were way over priced IIRC There was not a very big difference in the ticket prices between Montreal and Toronto. In Toronto the single ticket price was $24 and the group price was $23.50 if you bought your tickets through Jamie. In Montreal the ticket prices were $20 plus $5 service charge for individual tickets and $17 for group purchases plus a $15 service charge on the whole order (about $1.50 per ticket). None of us has any control over the ticket prices as they are set by the CSA. The main difference in ticket price was that the service charges in Montreal were less than half those charged in Toronto. All of that money goes to Ticketmaster not the CSA. The extremely high service charge Ticketmaster charged in Toronto was the reason Jamie undertook the very difficult process of buying our tickets as a group and sending them to everyone ie, we were worried that the price of the ticket plus the high service charge might discourage people from attending so he did this so people would not have to pay the service charge. If you did not buy your tickets to the Toronto game from Jamie (which if I remember correctly was the case for dsqpr) and instead bought them online from Ticketmaster, then it might have seemed like you paid a lot more for the Toronto game but the difference was mostly the really high service charges for that game. I did my best to find out why the service charges were so different in both cities but it seems like a complex procedure. My best guess is that even though Admission is owned by Ticketmaster they are pretty independent companies. I think that the CSA probably did not negotiate with either company very much and just accepted what price they gave them and Ticketmaster decided to charge exorbitant fees while Admission did not. The next time we play in Toronto we will have to contact the CSA and make sure they arrange a decent service charge price because I don't think Jamie or anyone else should have to go through the process of ordering and sending out tickets like happened this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 bwin odds Belarus 1.70 X 3.50 Canada 4.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 bwin odds Belarus 1.70 X 3.50 Canada 4.25 When the props come out make sure you lay a few bucks on 3 or 4 penalty shots to be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny63 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Finland got a friendly in Antalay on 25. March against Bolivia canceled . Maybe Finland will be playing Canada instead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Finland got a friendly in Antalay on 25. March against Bolivia canceled . Maybe Finland will be playing Canada instead ? Someone at the CSA must pick up the phone now and call the Finns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 There's a reason Bolivia v Finland was cancelled. The agency that set up the February friendlies in Antalya allegedly fixed the matches and Bolivia wanted nothing to do with that agency in march and pulled out. I don't think we want to fill that void. I'm nervous enough about whether our game with Belarus is going to be clean. http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6120752/fifa-opens-fixing-probe-matches-turkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Alright, time to lay down the insane "this match has to be fixed for this to possibly happen" bets. I call 2 - 1 Canada, two of the three goals coming on penalties in each half, first half for us, second half for them. Four yellow cards, three to us and one to a Belarussian, two in the first half and two in the second half (one to each nation per half). Guaranteed our second goal scored by Peters in the second half before the 70" off a corner. $50 - who's with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny63 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Finland got a friendly in Antalay on 25. March against Bolivia canceled . Maybe Finland will be playing Canada instead ? Finland playing Turkey U23 on 25. March. http://www.palloliitto.fi/maajoukkueet/miesten_a-maajoukkue/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'll geek out here on throw down the first possible roster for this one: FWD: Simpson, Occean, Ricketts, Hume, McCallum MID: Hutchinson,Jackson, Pacheco, Nakajima, Marrello, DF: de Jong, Ledgerwood, Pozniak, Straith, Peters, Edgar GK: Hirschfeld, Borjan ---- -Bernier and McKenna will probably have come back from injury but only just - no point damaging relationships with clubs over older vets who we know well. -Leave Friend out I say - a lot of others in this squad are hardly playing (Peters, Edgar, Straith, Jackson) but they are young and will probably be huge contributors for the Gold Cup and to the MNT in general for many years to come (plus very few alternatives with MLS players presumably not being called up). Friend will not. -Marrello's a holding mid - could be interesting to call him out to make up the numbers - and why not recognize his club status? I'd say bring Lam too but JEF play two days earlier. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'll geek out here on throw down the first possible roster for this one: FWD: Simpson, Occean, Ricketts, Hume, McCallum MID: Hutchinson,Jackson, Pacheco, Nakajima, Marrello, DF: de Jong, Ledgerwood, Pozniak, Straith, Peters, Edgar GK: Hirschfeld, Borjan ---- -Bernier and McKenna will probably have come back from injury but only just - no point damaging relationships with clubs over older vets who we know well. -Leave Friend out I say - a lot of others in this squad are hardly playing (Peters, Edgar, Straith, Jackson) but they are young and will probably be huge contributors for the Gold Cup and to the MNT in general for many years to come (plus very few alternatives with MLS players presumably not being called up). Friend will not. -Marrello's a holding mid - could be interesting to call him out to make up the numbers - and why not recognize his club status? I'd say bring Lam too but JEF play two days earlier. Thoughts? I'd say Dwayne De Rosario deserves inclusion after his strong performance in the Larissa match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'd say Dwayne De Rosario deserves inclusion after his strong performance in the Larissa match. I doubt we get MLS players for this one unless needed but they won't be from TFC thats for sure Kreis would definitely let Johnson come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Good chance we see Ali Gerba there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I don't think it's a big worry, but the game still has not been announced on and is not on the schedule on the CSA site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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