Levi Oakey Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I personally don't think this has very much to do with TFC at all. He hasn't played with them in years. I agree that the article points to it but Chapman left KW United midseason last year to train in England. He has an English father and is a Beswicks player (who has the rights to a number of major English players and a foothold in the English market). He is also highly considered in NCAA. He would be getting a GA deal if it wasn't for the fact that he still has Homegrown Player rights. Saying that, the Mail talks up his TFC days, so they clearly see that as recognizable, but I think that's just because it is the biggest known club he has been attached to. He isn't getting his chance in England though through TFC, he is there because of his agency and passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I personally don't think this has very much to do with TFC at all. He hasn't played with them in years. I agree that the article points to it but Chapman left KW United midseason last year to train in England. He has an English father and is a Beswicks player (who has the rights to a number of major English players and a foothold in the English market). He is also highly considered in NCAA. He would be getting a GA deal if it wasn't for the fact that he still has Homegrown Player rights. Saying that, the Mail talks up his TFC days, so they clearly see that as recognizable, but I think that's just because it is the biggest known club he has been attached to. He isn't getting his chance in England though through TFC, he is there because of his agency and passport. I don't mean to say that it has a LOT to do with TFC. I'm not touting their academy for his development. But the fact that the article points to it...you have to think the clubs noticed it and said "Oh, TFC, he's a TFC product, I've heard of them, they are a known brand." Sometimes it's not what you know, it's who you know...take Richard Eckersley. How often was he touted on TFC broadcasts as a former Manchester United man? What I'm saying is that because of the "bloody big deal" and becoming a world brand, having TFC attached to your name might be more help than hindrance, despite, ironically, the results TFC produces. Don't read too much into this for Chapman DIRECTLY, he's just another piece in the puzzle. There's still not a lot of proof to my argument yet...I'm sort of looking to the future...if TFC makes a different move this spring, for example...I think we can look for a lot MORE examples like this moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. How many tier 4 keepers have been better than a Tier 1 keeper, but could NEVER get a tier 1 job based solely on the reputation that they have never played at a higher level, just as an example? The more recognizable TFC as a name becomes, the higher the so-called glass ceiling for their academy products becomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerlife Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I personally don't think this has very much to do with TFC at all. He hasn't played with them in years. I agree that the article points to it but Chapman left KW United midseason last year to train in England. He has an English father and is a Beswicks player (who has the rights to a number of major English players and a foothold in the English market). He is also highly considered in NCAA. He would be getting a GA deal if it wasn't for the fact that he still has Homegrown Player rights. Saying that, the Mail talks up his TFC days, so they clearly see that as recognizable, but I think that's just because it is the biggest known club he has been attached to. He isn't getting his chance in England though through TFC, he is there because of his agency and passport. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think this has nothing to do with TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Nikola Paunic and Skylar Thomas have been invited to the MLS Combine. More could be invited later, but so far they're the only ones on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I really liked Paunic this summer. Great player and fairly good on the ball. We had AJ Cochrane who is now with Houston on the team last year and I would say Paunic is a step up. I am hoping Emeka Ononye gets called in, he is very very good. Paunic could be a little limited in MLS, so the Combine is a good place for him to prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Where's Murrell? TFC HG claim? Ives is reporting that several NYRB grads are disputing their home grown tag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Paunic was at TFCA as well. Not home grown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 They might have chosen not to sign him. The same could be said for Murrell, or maybe that is why he isn't on the list. The combine though isn't a great predictator of draft places. I know that last years had quite a few that were never drafted even though they were invited to the combine. I've found MLS drafts very hard to predict in general and I think that is true across most systems that I have seen. Draft boards can be wildly inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Ives Galarcep @SoccerByIves 17m17 minutes ago I’m told Murrell is NOT a TFC homegrown, just left out of Combine. Remember MLS also failed to invite Ray Gaddis & (initially) Chris Duvall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Wasn't there a mock released recently (TDS or Ives) where both Murrell and Paunic were listed as TFC HG's? edit: I should point out, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is true, plenty of MLS-centric journo's get it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaltan Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Does any one know of what Canadian players have committed to NCAA schools for the upcoming year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Jay Chapman and Callum Irving made the NSCAA All America Team: http://www.nscaa.com/awards/2014-ncaa-division-i-men-s-all-america-teams?utm_medium=short_url Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 12 dudes on each team wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Canadian quota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Apologies if this has already been posted. http://americansoccernow.com/articles/three-top-underclassmen-set-to-leave-school-for-pros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Apologies if this has already been posted. http://americansoccernow.com/articles/three-top-underclassmen-set-to-leave-school-for-pros Thomas Rongen dropped Chapman from the academy? Even more evidence of the incompetence of TFC. I hope they both go to Europe and thrive. As a TFC fan, I hope they stay far away so they don't get ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Interesting article. Good to read that Larin is on trial in the Netherlands and Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Maybe that is why Rongen was "dropped" from the Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc88 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Interesting article. Good to read that Larin is on trial in the Netherlands and Belgium. He has a trial in Germany too. He's being smart and checking out everything and weighing options before/if he decides to accept the GA contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkiss Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyone remember http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/allando_matheson_763093.html It looks like he suffered an injury this year but he was part of the TFCA and potentially could be homegrown I guess...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyone remember http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/allando_matheson_763093.html It looks like he suffered an injury this year but he was part of the TFCA and potentially could be homegrown I guess...? IIRC Matheson wants nothing to do with TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Aaron Nielsen doesn't think Matheson will get drafted. The first real academy 'star' for Toronto but it looks like he'll be fighting an uphill battle if he wants a pro career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 According to Steven Goff on Twitter, Joshua Yaro won't be signing with MLS and will return to school. Pretty much means Larin goes #1 overall if he does sign with MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkiss Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I think for TFC and its new USL team it would be silly not to sign Matheson to a homegrown contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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