Free kick Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 It would seem that he is going to a team of similar strength as Depor. Depor finished seventh last year whereas Espanyol finished 10th last year, 12th in the year before and 11th in the year before that. Depor finished nineth and thirteenth in prior years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 ^ Espanyol and Depor are indeed fairly equivalent clubs. It might be fair to say that Depor is the more successful club of the two, especially over the last couple of decades. However, with that new stadium, I guess its possible Espanyol is starting to see themselves as a more ambitious club. Deportivo is deeply in debt and I can see that club having some difficulty this season and possibly beyond. IMO, a parallel move from one mid table squad to another within La Liga is better than moving to a weaker league, even if it means playing for a contender in that weaker league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Cheeta when does La Liga kick-off this year? Its got to be fairly soon. August 29 is kick off of 2009/2010 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlimus Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Obtaining a De Guzman shirt won't be any easier with the RCD Espanyol kit being made by UhlSport, a rather obscure company, at least in Canada. On top of that it's almost the same as the Deportivo one, blue and white stripes. On the plus side they have an english version of their webpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr ^ Espanyol and Depor are indeed fairly equivalent clubs. It might be fair to say that Depor is the more successful club of the two, especially over the last couple of decades. However, with that new stadium, I guess its possible Espanyol is starting to see themselves as a more ambitious club. Deportivo is deeply in debt and I can see that club having some difficulty this season and possibly beyond. IMO, a parallel move from one mid table squad to another within La Liga is better than moving to a weaker league, even if it means playing for a contender in that weaker league In recent history Depor has been better than Espanyol but it looks like Espanyol is on its way up while Depor is in decline. It is debateable whether Espanyol will be able to move into the top echelons in Spain for a long time or will sink back down after several years like Depor. Yet at least if this is true he seems to be joining them at the right time as their glory years are starting. With Depor he joined them after they had already peaked and were starting to slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 quote:Originally posted by earlimus Obtaining a De Guzman shirt won't be any easier with the RCD Espanyol kit being made by UhlSport, a rather obscure company, at least in Canada. On top of that it's almost the same as the Deportivo one, blue and white stripes. On the plus side they have an english version of their webpage. No different than when he was at Hannover, which also used Uhlsport. I guess you can order online, or get a friend to visit Spain ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I think this is great news. Espanyol will be getting great value for JDG. Hopefully they give him a chance to play a bit more offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 For those interested in shirts, just come on over and buy one. Or online. Or order from a store. Is that so hard? As for Espanyol-Depor comparisons. Espanyol is one of the 10 founding teams of Spanish 1st division, and historically is up there in terms of overall seasons in top flight, total points, all that. Never won the league, a few Spanish Cups in recent years, an UEFA final. Depor was nothing, a minor side, until the early 90s. But they went further by winning a league and having some great years in Champions. Problem with Espanyol I think is that they have tended to be poorly run, waste a lot of talent they develop (youth teams are excellent, as are their women), seem to make decisions that suggest corruption in the head office, they have investment groups doing signings and then selling against the will of the coach. It is a bit rancid at the top, and that affects the rest. They should always be close to an UEFA spot and should make Champions every now and then, as I see it. As for the stadium, after the Olympic with the track and the cooler atmosphere in the stands, so far away, the new one is incredible. Best you can do for that kind of money (maybe 110 million CDN, a bit more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Article in Sport, Barcelona daily, for Tuesday paper edition release, says Julian is Espanyol's main option for defensive mid and that they want to get it down before the end of the week. The offer is for just one year though, with an option for another. A short contract, and it seems Julian would like something longer, as is understandable. Out of contract at age 30 is not a good thing, even if Espanyol has the money to raise his Depor salary for this season and another. http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idtipusrecurs_PK=7&idnoticia_PK=634829 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by villus I think this is great news. Espanyol will be getting great value for JDG. Hopefully they give him a chance to play a bit more offensive. As for this, they will play with two strikers, Luis Garcia and Ben Sahar, an attacking mid like De la Pena, another that can work the wing, like Coromina, maybe Nakamura in there. A more versatile do-all mid, which could be Verdu also signed from Depor, and a defensive mid. That latter would be Julian. So I think he will play even further away from the goal at Espanyol than at Depor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crampton Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by earlimus On top of that it's almost the same as the Deportivo one, blue and white stripes. Yeah, it's a flippant criticism, but does he have to go somewhere with the exact same kit? Kinda boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BHTC Mike Yeah, it's a flippant criticism, but does he have to go somewhere with the exact same kit? Kinda boring. well, I have that special Black and Gold Deportivo 3rd jersey so the Espanyol kit would be totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Yeah but does the carpet match the drapes? Seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'd love to see Julian and Nakamura on the same pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Espanyol just inaugurated a brand spanking new stadium that looks pretty sweet. Wouldn't be a bad place to watch JDG play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 August 6 Sport says it is a done deal but they are taking some days before announcing it, don't know why really. Could take a week to 10 days. Seems they are musing about other possibilities first, including ex Betis Arzu and others in S. America. One interesting detail is that is says Julian is training with a German team. Is his kid still in Germany, and if so where? Who would he be training with with the Bundesliga pretty well underway, at least the Pokal has started. http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=635254&idseccio_PK=804 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Just wanted to say thanks for all the updates from espana. you don't get thanked enough, at least not compared to Ed in the Germany thread, but i guess he has more players to provide news for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Yeah, thanks for the info. Jeffrey...and yes, i believe Julian has a young daughter in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Appreciate it, really do, though I am in Van these days. Thankfully, as I could watch Barcelona tonight at a decent hour. So when Julian is my "neighbour" in BCN I guess I will have to finally do an interview for the Vs with him. Must admit I am damn excited about him being at Espanyol if it works out, but let's wait as the Espanyol board is weird. And this wait means he won't go on their preseason trip to Italy, too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Espanyol shocker as defender Dani Jarque, 26, died today of a heart attack in the team hotel in Italy. They were to play Bologna this weekend. Was born in the same town and very close to where the Gasol brothers grew up, he'd been in the Espanyol system since the age of 12, was considered one of the best in his position in Spain, close to the national team and transferring up to a stronger side. The team is clearly destroyed by this, it may put things in check for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 ^ wow....that is stunning Can't say that I recall noticing this player when watching Espanyol play last season but its still horrible news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/european_football/article6789038.ece For those who missed the story, though it was in the headlines. He was a great guy, very soft spoken and talented, was just named Espanyol captain. This affects the week Julian was supposed to sign in a few ways. First, they cancelled their match vs. Bologna and a midweek game vs. Livorno. They have a funeral this week that affects the team greatly, and may put on hold some negotiations. Second, it makes signing a reliable top flight defender a priority, he was a very strong player. That could cut into the budget, and it could affect things if they choose a non-Euro player. In spite of one and two, Hurtado the current def mid for Espanyol came out Saturday (I think the quotes are from before Jarque's death) acknowledging that Espanyol needed to give him competition in the position. Though he also referred to an academy player being brought into the first team also in that spot. So it seems Espanyol is still looking, they will sign someone for holding mid, and that when things calm down, maybe by midweek, some news might appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Espanyol just started training again today, a full week off after the death of Jarque, two friendlies lost, only one more before the season starts in 2 weeks. So as I mentioned no news on the transfer front until today. The press says they´ll sign two more players: a centre back and a midfielder. http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idtipusrecurs_PK=7&idnoticia_PK=637154 Losing Jarque obliges them to sign a centre back, they have a few options but most involve a transfer fee or taking someone on loan that might have a higher salary. That is the priority. But the press also insists that they still want to sign an alternate at holding mid to Hurtado, and they may release another mid, Serbian Lola. With Julian coming on a free transfer, with little time to look at the other options available over this last week, I think his chances are good. Good of him and his representative for being quiet these days, because any sign of being in a hurry while RCD Espanyol is burying their captain would not have gone down well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I find too bad that Julian is still without a contract before the league debut. I know La Liga doesn't start this weekend, but still Julian won't have much time to train with his new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Julian has been ruled out by Espanyol. After the death of Jarque they have decided to change as little as possible. They have to sign a centre back, and will not take on a new defensive mid as they are keeping the Serbian Lola, who plays as non-EU. Meaning that with Lola they can't legally take on another non-EU player. http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=637503&idseccio_PK=804 The idea was that they were going to listen to offers to try to make some money off the Serbian, but since none have come that interest them they are going to keep him. Julian will have to get his agent to move his butt to find a team with a couple weeks left in the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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