jpg75 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Ed Pretty much. The Collin Samuel of LA? Carlos Costly will likely partner Suazo up top, he plays for a club in the 1st D in Poland. J.C. "Rambo" de Leon plays for Genoa in Serie A and is a top-notch FK taker, he has 2 goals this year. Then Amado Guevara, former MLS player is now back in Honduras playing for Motagua. There's also Ramon Nunez who is now with Chivas USA after being traded from FC Dallas. Maynor Suazo who is Davids' cousin plays in Turkey 1st D. There's also a bunch of depth guys playing in China. Likely Honduran starting XI: -------------Pylon-------------- Pylon-----Pylon--Pylon------Pylon -------------Palacios------------ Alvarez-------Guevara-------Leon --------Costly-----Suazo-------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Just wondering, Cuba and the USA will be in the same group, with the Americans be allowed to go to Cuba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Saw that, USA vs Cuba is going to be an interesting situation. Perhaps they'll be forced by the US government to play at a neutral venue... unless of course Hillary Clinton is president by then when common sense may at last prevail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Richard Saw that, USA vs Cuba is going to be an interesting situation. Perhaps they'll be forced by the US government to play at a neutral venue... unless of course Hillary Clinton is president by then when common sense may at last prevail FIFA would rightly never allow this. If you are unwilling to travel to a country you would forfeit the match. I doubt there will be much difficulty in getting the US government to allow the team to travel to Cuba but whether fans will be allowed to travel is much more doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Cuba vs. USA huh? The field will probably be lined with MLS coaches looking for a defector or two. Too bad we can't play that game as we don't have the same citizenship rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 Carlos Costly will likely partner Suazo up top, he plays for a club in the 1st D in Poland. J.C. "Rambo" de Leon plays for Genoa in Serie A and is a top-notch FK taker, he has 2 goals this year. Then Amado Guevara, former MLS player is now back in Honduras playing for Motagua. There's also Ramon Nunez who is now with Chivas USA after being traded from FC Dallas. Maynor Suazo who is Davids' cousin plays in Turkey 1st D. There's also a bunch of depth guys playing in China. Likely Honduran starting XI: -------------Pylon-------------- Pylon-----Pylon--Pylon------Pylon -------------Palacios------------ Alvarez-------Guevara-------Leon --------Costly-----Suazo-------- Anyone wanting a Coles Notes on Honduras . . . There's months to talk about SV&G but I think they deserve some respect. They were six minutes away from finishing tied with T&T last time in the SF group and held Mexico to 0-1 at home. That's nothing to sneeze at. Their name players are getting old, but that doesn't mean there aren't some youngsters coming up to be worried about. cheers, matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan68 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Re Fifa not allowing the US Cuba match at a neutral site. They don't seem to have any trouble allowing Israel into Europe. Turkey has at least some territory in Europe. Israel by geography should be playing in Asia, but Fifa is not ignorant of the political consequences of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by terpfan68 Re Fifa not allowing the US Cuba match at a neutral site. They don't seem to have any trouble allowing Israel into Europe. Turkey has at least some territory in Europe. Israel by geography should be playing in Asia, but Fifa is not ignorant of the political consequences of that. There is a big difference between making an accomodation for a team whose lives are going to be threatened in many of their matches and between two teams whose governments just don't like each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Not sure FIFA would not permit playing at a neutral venue. It has been done in Africa but with a change of president it may well be moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly FIFA would rightly never allow this. If you are unwilling to travel to a country you would forfeit the match. I doubt there will be much difficulty in getting the US government to allow the team to travel to Cuba but whether fans will be allowed to travel is much more doubtful. American athletes have traveled to Cuba to compete in the past notably during the Pan Am games. Which Cuba once hosted. Even CBS was there and i recall distinctly the constant whining and anti-cuba propaganda from brent Musburger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 I think we can safely assume that the American team will not have trouble travelling to Cuba, while fans will probably not be allowed to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Bradley was quoted yesterday that the players will be looking forward to visiting Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 The Baltimore Orioles travelled to Cuba to play their NT a few years back. It will not be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Daniel I think we can safely assume that the American team will not have trouble travelling to Cuba, while fans will probably not be allowed to do so. I agree. I wonder what the situation will be wth North and South Korea having drawn the same group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Keano I agree. I wonder what the situation will be wth North and South Korea having drawn the same group? War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by piltdownman War? probably. Oh well we'll worry about ours. Group of Death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by piltdownman Just wondering, Cuba and the USA will be in the same group, with the Americans be allowed to go to Cuba? "Cultural" exchanges are permitted between the US and Cuba under current American law. sports are considered culture in that law. American fans, on the other hand,will have difficulty traveling to the game. Well, difficulty traveling home from the game anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Keano I agree. I wonder what the situation will be wth North and South Korea having drawn the same group? Australia visiting Iraq has me more worried. You may recall the Aussies were involved in a little military operation there not to recently. You may also recall that Iraq isn't all that stable and that the west isn't all that popular there. You would be a brave person--or Jeffrey, of course--to travel to that one as an away supporter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Speaking of Iraq, they were debutants at Mexico '86 and haven't been back. Maybe this is the year we both make it back. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulsar Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by MediaGuy Australia visiting Iraq has me more worried. You may recall the Aussies were involved in a little military operation there not to recently. You may also recall that Iraq isn't all that stable and that the west isn't all that popular there. You would be a brave person--or Jeffrey, of course--to travel to that one as an away supporter! I haven't researched this but hasn't Iraq played a number of games in neighbouring?Jordan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Iraq and Australia being drawn in the same group won't be a problem. They are already playing in the same qualifying group for the Beijing Olympics. Iraq doesn't play any games in Iraq. In fact, none of the team or staff actually goes home to Iraq ever out of fear for their safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 This continues to be the one of the most moronic threads in the history of The Voyageurs. What we have learnt about the world here is outstanding, extraordinary, about the Koreas, about Central America, about how chicken-sh-it our players must be to even think about travelling to all those dangerous countries out there, about sport between Cuba and the US. Comparing supporting Australia in Iraq, a country involved in an illegal war with its soldiers killing civilians, with travelling to Mexico to support Canada for a game. Amazing stuff guys. The world is a dark, evil place, even darker and more sinister than my cave. I fear to venture out. Not even for a soccer match. So anyone want to give us an idea of how Mexico, Honduras or Jamaica normally line-up, what are their strengths and possible weaknesses, how you think we should best play against them to get a result, if we need to change our system or think about certain players in function of them? Thought -along with a scarce few of you- that after 15 pages of fruit loop theories about the world it might be nice to actually talk about the draw and what it means for our chances. Honduras felt hard done by in their Gold Cup and other matches vs. Mexico, and it seems they were not given a fair shake. What did they do right to get so close to beating the Mexicans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvroArrow Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Give it a rest Jeffrey. You're beating a dead horse. If watching matches as a visiting supporter isn't dangerous at all in any place in the world, as you seem to be professing, then why do some soccer stadiums have to physically seperate the fans with fences and then pack the stadium with just as many cops as spectators? Take off your rose-coloured glasses and come back to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by AvroArrow Give it a rest Jeffrey. You're beating a dead horse. If watching matches as a visiting supporter isn't dangerous at all in any place in the world, as you seem to be professing, then why do some soccer stadiums have to physically seperate the fans with fences and then pack the stadium with just as many cops as spectators? Take off your rose-coloured glasses and come back to reality. Great, separate sections. We'll be enough to warrant a separate section in Mexico or Honduras, glad to hear it. Now here's a tough question: how far can an average Mexican throw a plastic bag filled with piss? Does CONCACAF take the distance into account when setting up the visitor's section at Azteca? NAFTA supporters need not answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Great, separate sections. We'll be enough to warrant a separate section in Mexico or Honduras, glad to hear it. Now here's a tough question: how far can an average Mexican throw a plastic bag filled with piss? Does CONCACAF take the distance into account when setting up the visitor's section at Azteca? NAFTA supporters need not answer. I'm so glad you decided to run this thread right off the rails. I was getting bored reading about our potential opponents and discussing things soccer related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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