DJT Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 <center>World Youth Championship - Netherlands 2005 First Round, Match 2Canada 0 Colombia 2 (0:0)Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:30 AM PDT / 9:30 AM MDT / 10:30 AM CDT / 11:30 AM EDT / 12:30 PM ADT / 1:00 PM NDT / 5:30 PM local Sportpark Willem II, Tilburg</center> ------------------------------------------------------------- FIFA World Youth Championship Group E Canada - Colombia 0:2 (0:0) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Match Date Venue Time Attendance #23 15 Jun 2005 Sportpark Willem II / TILBURG 17:30 6500 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goals Scored: GARCIA Radamel (COL) 81' , GUARIN Fredy (COL) 88' Canada (CAN) [1] WAGENAAR Josh (GK) [2] RAMALHO Graham [3] LEDGERWOOD Nik [4] HAINAULT Andrew [5] PEETOOM Brad [8] ROSENLUND Tyler [9] GYAKI Ryan © [10] JOHNSON Will [12] O NEILL Riley [14] EDGAR David (-84) [17] LOMBARDO Andrea (-69) Substitutes [19] BEGOVIC Asmir (GK) [20] GIACOMI Rob (GK) [6] SCHIAVONI Carlo [7] PETERS Jaime (+84) [11] DE JONG Marcel (+69) [13] BEAULIEU-BOURGAULT Jonathan [15] STEWART Vince [16] LALLI Franco [18] CHAROWSKI Tomek [21] KASSAYE Simon COLOMBIA (COL) [1] ARENAS Libis (GK) [3] ZAPATA Cristian [5] ZUNIGA Juan [6] MORALES Harrison [8] TOJA Juan Carlos [11] OTALVARO Harrison (-85) [14] AGUILAR Abel © [15] MORENO Dayro (-77) [17] MARRUGO Cristian [18] RENTERIA Wason [19] CASIERRA Mauricio (-69) Substitutes [12] ABELLA Carlos (GK) [21] OSPINA David (GK) [2] VALDEZ Carlos [4] ESTACIO Jimy [7] RODALLEGA Hugo (+69) [9] GARCIA Radamel (+77) [10] HERNANDEZ Sebastian [13] GUARIN Fredy (+85) [16] VALENCIA Edwin [20] MACHACON Daniel Coach MITCHELL Dale (CAN) Coach LARA Eduardo (COL) Cautions: GYAKI Ryan (CAN) 15' , TOJA Juan Carlos (COL) 58' , EDGAR David (CAN) 82' Expulsions: NONE Match Officials: Referee : ABD EL FATAH Esam (EGY) Asst. Ref. 1 : RASHWAN Beshr (EGY) 4th Official : IVANOV Valentin (RUS) Asst. Ref. 2 : BEGASHAW Luleseged (ETH) Statistics Canada (CAN) Shots 3 Shots on goal 1 Fouls Committed 12 Fouls Suffered 11 Corner kicks 3 Free Kicks 0 Penalty goal / Penalty shot O/O Offside 2 Own Goals 0 Cautions 2 Expulsions 0 Actual playing time 14 Ball possession (%) 25 Colombia (COL) Shots 24 Shots on goal 11 Fouls Committed 11 Fouls Suffered 12 Corner kicks 3 Free Kicks 3 Penalty goal / Penalty shot O/O Offside 0 Own Goals 0 Cautions 1 Expulsions 0 Actual playing time 42 Ball possession (%) 75 Canada (CAN) # Name Pos Min G P Y R 1 WAGENAAR Josh GK 90 0 0 0 0 2 RAMALHO Graham DF 90 0 0 0 0 3 LEDGERWOOD Nik DF 90 0 0 0 0 4 HAINAULT Andrew DF 90 0 0 0 0 5 PEETOOM Brad DF 90 0 0 0 0 8 ROSENLUND Tyler MF 90 0 0 0 0 9 GYAKI Ryan MF 90 0 0 1 0 10 JOHNSON Will FW 90 0 0 0 0 12 O NEILL Riley FW 90 0 0 0 0 14 EDGAR David DF 83 0 0 1 0 17 LOMBARDO Andrea FW 68 0 0 0 0 Substitutes 6 SCHIAVONI Carlo MF 0 0 0 0 0 7 PETERS Jaime MF 7 0 0 0 0 11 DE JONG Marcel MF 22 0 0 0 0 13 BEAULIEU-BOURGAULT Jonathan DF 0 0 0 0 0 15 STEWART Vince DF 0 0 0 0 0 16 LALLI Franco FW 0 0 0 0 0 18 CHAROWSKI Tomek MF 0 0 0 0 0 19 BEGOVIC Asmir GK 0 0 0 0 0 20 GIACOMI Rob GK 0 0 0 0 0 21 KASSAYE Simon DF 0 0 0 0 0 Totals 0 0 2 0 Colombia (COL) # Name Pos Min G P Y R 1 ARENAS Libis GK 90 0 0 0 0 3 ZAPATA Cristian DF 90 0 0 0 0 5 ZUNIGA Juan DF 90 0 0 0 0 6 MORALES Harrison MF 90 0 0 0 0 8 TOJA Juan Carlos MF 90 0 0 1 0 11 OTALVARO Harrison MF 84 0 0 0 0 14 AGUILAR Abel MF 90 0 0 0 0 15 MORENO Dayro FW 76 0 0 0 0 17 MARRUGO Cristian MF 90 0 0 0 0 18 RENTERIA Wason FW 90 0 0 0 0 19 CASIERRA Mauricio DF 68 0 0 0 0 Substitutes 2 VALDEZ Carlos DF 0 0 0 0 0 4 ESTACIO Jimy DF 0 0 0 0 0 7 RODALLEGA Hugo FW 22 0 0 0 0 9 GARCIA Radamel FW 14 1 0 0 0 10 HERNANDEZ Sebastian MF 0 0 0 0 0 12 ABELLA Carlos GK 0 0 0 0 0 13 GUARIN Fredy MF 6 1 0 0 0 16 VALENCIA Edwin MF 0 0 0 0 0 20 MACHACON Daniel MF 0 0 0 0 0 21 OSPINA David GK 0 0 0 0 0 Totals 2 0 1 0 a.e.t. after extra time PSO Penalty Shoot-out © Captain Pos Position GK Goalkeeper DF Defender MF Midfielder FW Forward Min Minutes Played G Goals P Penalty Y Yellow Cards R Red Cards DSQ Disqualified NEP Not elegible NPR Not Present INJ Injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Just my opinion, and from my experience in countless other message boards, but... THREE threads for ONE game = Pointless and useless. You may now commence this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Well as I said earlier. We will never succeed as a soccer nation playing that way. have to agree with that poster named "neophite" who said that there is a difference between playing solid defending like the Italians are known for and playing the way we played today.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Loud Mouth Soup Just my opinion, and from my experience in countless other message boards, but... THREE threads for ONE game = Pointless and useless. You may now commence this thread. Three threads? I only see two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Sorry, going by the old standard of Pre, In and Post match that's been the norm of late. Continue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Well, I criticized the defence after the Syria game for looking weak and indecisive. Today, they looked in charge and, I thought, played well. Especially Hainault. Ledgerwood did not look as good as he did last game and Ramalho was pretty much invisible. MOTM was obviously Waganaar (good for him). Tough one for O'Neill and Rosenlund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownaguy Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Ivan,, I have to agree,, there were very few positives to take out of this game from a possession or offensive standpoint,, but Wagenaar was the man of the match for us and looked very confident today (couldn't fault him on either goal)... And the backline looked much more solid.. Hainault was a shot blocking machine out there.. I can't think of anything else even worth mentioning,, this is truly a game to just forget about. I hope Mitchell doesn't employ the same "bunker down" strategy against Italy on Saturday and sits Peters out for 82 minutes again.. As we need goals and a victory to move on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kye Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Well I have to say I was pretty dissapointed with the tactics selected by Mitchell. We waited to long to put on the right players and kept trying to kick it up field to a lone striker all game long. Once more when we had the ball, we gave the ball carrier no options and hence we kept turning it over. We should of came into this game to play to win, not to defend the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Free kick Well as I said earlier. We will never succeed as a soccer nation playing that way. have to agree with that poster named "neophite" who said that there is a difference between playing solid defending like the Italians are known for and playing the way we played today.. We don't need these kind of remarks. It shows you know nothing about soccer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 quote:Originally posted by john tv We don't need these kind of remarks. It shows you know nothing about soccer!!! Let me be the first to say....."huh?" He was spot on with that comment, john. You need to back your comments up if you're going to say he 'knows nothing about soccer'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 quote:Originally posted by john tv We don't need these kind of remarks. It shows you know nothing about soccer!!! Please elaborate ? I really don't get what your talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Fan Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Well,it looked like we were playing in Azteca today.Yeah,we could have done better with our possesion.Maybe have tried to play more attack minded.It would have looked better but it wouldn't have got us a better result.These Colombians are gonna be hard to beat no matter who you are or how you play.They are such a polished team.They deserved at least a 2 goal win.With that said I still beleive we can get a result against Italy.We can't be shy about going forward and we can't be afraid to lose.A win and we go on and that is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 That was largely a waste of 90 minutes. Congrats to the boys for working so hard and nearly pulling off the intended 0-0 result (had the Ref not bought the obvious dive, we probably would have done it) but I hated the tactics we employed (like everyone else I suspect did - haven't read the in game thread yet). If we are going to lose 2-0, lets do so by playing soccer. With the tactics we chose there was never any hope we would score, and most irritating of all we have the talent to play offensively against these teams - and in this instance we took some of the talent off the field (or didn't put it on until late, to be more accurate). No offense to Riley O'Neil but he is clearly not a midfielder - it was like having Garret Kusch at left-mid for 90 minutes. I let out a great cheer when De Jong came on - only to find that he still didn't put him in on the left. There's no reason in my mind to play this withdrawn. If you want to play counter-attack that's fair enough, but this wasn't even counter-attacking soccer. I never want to see these tactics employed again, especially when we feel the need to take skilled players off the field to do it. And especially not in 2007. I had thought we left those days behind, but it appears this was one last gasp of the bunker defense at this level. At least I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Well, at least they showed some real hustle and grit in the last two matches, which sometimes wins out against teams with superior individual technical skills, such as Syria. I am still optimistic that we can get a result against Italy, but it is going to have to be a win, two points will not be enough to advance in this year's comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Come on guys! We were outclassed by a team that has an excellent shot at winning the whole thing. We are still a developing soccer nation, and I cannot see how using any other tactics would have resulted in a better scoreline. Our guys fought admirably despite being outskilled by a long shot. What were you truly expecting? We are making strides and today's result was not hideous. yes, our possession was poor, but let's be realistic. Perhaps we could have held the tie--we were damn close--but this was a formidable side. I fully expect the Colombians to be in the final four, if not the championship game. Time to put this one away, learn from it, and start focussing on Italy. Keep smiling, guys. We're in tough, but we can still advance. [^] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 If we had held on to the draw or lost by only one then we might have only had to draw italy...... that is of course if Italy drew against Syria today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footyfanatic01 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 quote:Originally posted by The Beaver Come on guys! We were outclassed by a team that has an excellent shot at winning the whole thing. We are still a developing soccer nation, and I cannot see how using any other tactics would have resulted in a better scoreline. Our guys fought admirably despite being outskilled by a long shot. What were you truly expecting? We are making strides and today's result was not hideous. yes, our possession was poor, but let's be realistic. Perhaps we could have held the tie--we were damn close--but this was a formidable side. I fully expect the Colombians to be in the final four, if not the championship game. Time to put this one away, learn from it, and start focussing on Italy. Keep smiling, guys. We're in tough, but we can still advance. [^] Exactly. Sure we played ugly soccer, didn't even get a chance on Colombia, but we are a developing soccer nation and 2-0 is a respectable result, even if we did get outskilled, and outclassed. I fully expect Canada to learn from this result whereas I dont see the Italian's outplaying us like Colombia did. Lets go Canada, we know you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Loud Mouth Soup Just my opinion, and from my experience in countless other message boards, but... THREE threads for ONE game = Pointless and useless. You may now commence this thread. HAZZAAA fight on!!! boo DJT! BOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 The frustration I see is that a draw would only have given us the slightest improvement toward reaching our ultimate goal. We would still, in all likelihood, need to defeat Italy to advance. Although I applaud the fitness of our players, I can't understand how such a drastic tactical change can do anything but hurt us on next time out. If Peters and DeJong can't give %100 on two full days of rest, we should have forfeited this match. I don't see the harm in going down a few early by being aggressive. We might have had a game like Portugal, where we're allowed to get some touches and gain some momentum going into Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWay Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 It's all well and good to claim that there was no other option but to bunker down (and this is ignoring the fact that we were horrendous on the rare occassion that we had the ball), but how long can we stay like this? We were lucky. This game, as poor as it was as an endorsement for the Canadian game, was in Holland, with little press, and a small T.V viewing audience. But what happens in 2007? Could you imagine what an embarrassment it would be if we play like that in our own country, in front of a huge audience and packed stands? Talk about wasting a great chance to promote the game! We'd cement the image of Canada as back-water soccer nation for years to come. And not in the eyes of the world - but worse, in the eyes of Canadians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footyfanatic01 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I see the harm. This isn't a friendly where we want to "brush up on our skills"...we wanted a result, it was quite obvious that we played to get the tie, or maybe a lucky fluke goal. We wanted to put ourselves in the BEST POSSIBLE position going into the Italy game. I see nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Tony i dont see why we have to get killed for you to be happy. Defencive bunkering is fine, if we were gonna go guns a blazing against the columbians we would of lost 10-1.. the best way to get a tie or a quick 1 goal was to bunker. It was the smart move and we did it well. 80+ min without a goal let in and the the flood gates opened on a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I can't imagine we will play like that in 2007. Really this was a surprise for me, and not what I expected (and we normally get) from Dale Mitchell. I suppose I might feel better about this if Colombia wins the whole tourney, but not much better. I want to see us go for the win. A 4-2 loss is better than a 2-0 loss. Playing not to win means you never win. And the Ref from Egypt was an ass, I'd wish for a Canadian ref to go over and screw their team by allowing obvious dives but they are already virtually eliminated anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 We were out there with the clear intention of defending all the way. Having said that what was Mitchell's intention on substituting our front runners with fresh legs? was he really expecting a miracle? On the other hand our defenders obviously got tired and begun to lose concentration. It would have made more sense to me to send in 3 fresh defender legs and be consistant with his strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footyfanatic01 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca I can't imagine we will play like that in 2007. Really this was a surprise for me, and not what I expected (and we normally get) from Dale Mitchell. I suppose I might feel better about this if Colombia wins the whole tourney, but not much better. I want to see us go for the win. A 4-2 loss is better than a 2-0 loss. Playing not to win means you never win. And the Ref from Egypt was an ass, I'd wish for a Canadian ref to go over and screw their team by allowing obvious dives but they are already virtually eliminated anyway. I myself think it was a smart tactic by DM. Look at Greece at the Euro's, arguably played the ugliest style, but it was effective. One chance was ALL it took, and often at times those chances were off of corner kicks and free kicks. I'm happy for the way we represented ourselves today. We got badly outclassed, but 2-0 is still a respectable result, to us Canadian fans, and the rest of the world. Let's just hope Canada learns from this, and we beat the Italians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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