Mataeo Bunbury

[GasPed]

37 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Wait... you have two accounts? @solsous and @Onelessstar ? 🤣

I was just interested as to why that user was confused by my posts, but if that account is also you, now I am genuinely curious as to who you are and why you are reacting in the same thread with two separate accounts.  Funny stuff. 🙃

He did say Alex is very active on social media... ...so if I'm putting two and two together...

[solsous]

52 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Wait... you have two accounts? @solsous and @Onelessstar ? 🤣

I was just interested as to why that user was confused by my posts, but if that account is also you, now I am genuinely curious as to who you are and why you are reacting in the same thread with two separate accounts.  Funny stuff. 🙃

You still refuse to talk about the beautiful game, what gives??

[solsous]

When you are ready to talk about the the kids game, I am all game, no pun intended.  No need to be a gatekeeper, it's all live.

[GasPed]

32 minutes ago, solsous said:

When you are ready to talk about the the kids game, I am all game, no pun intended.  No need to be a gatekeeper, it's all live.

Well, you seem to know a lot about him, his game and his family situation, so let me ask you this - in your opinion, what's going on here?  Kid has game, but he's only 17 - so if he wasn't in a hurry to get into the first team, why we would he leave SKC?  Or does he have something firm in Europe to go to?  Thoughts (as a knowledgeable insider)?  😉

[solsous]

1 minute ago, solsous said:

When you are ready to talk about the the kids game, I am all game, no pun intended.  No need to be a gatekeeper, it's all live.

 

3 minutes ago, GasPed said:

Well, you seem to know a lot about him, his game and his family situation, so let me ask you this - in your opinion, what's going on here?  Kid has game, but he's only 17 - so if he wasn't in a hurry to get into the first team, why we would he leave SKC?  Or does he have something firm in Europe to go to?  Thoughts (as a knowledgeable insider)?  😉

Again, I think he should have tough it out with SKC.  The vibe that I got from Alex is that he doesn't want to go to Europe now.  I do agree with that.  Football in North America is on the ascension.  An announcement re: his new team is forthcoming.  

 

Honestly, I would really love to talk about his game.  I really don't think it's polished.  He lacks creativity on the dribble and is mediocre with his back to the goal.

[phresh]

7 minutes ago, solsous said:

 

Again, I think he should have tough it out with SKC.  The vibe that I got from Alex is that he doesn't want to go to Europe now.  I do agree with that.  Football in North America is on the ascension.  An announcement re: his new team is forthcoming.  

 

Honestly, I would really love to talk about his game.  I really don't think it's polished.  He lacks creativity on the dribble and is mediocre with his back to the goal.

What are his strengths? What do you think his potential is?

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

1 hour ago, solsous said:

When you are ready to talk about the the kids game, I am all game, no pun intended.  No need to be a gatekeeper, it's all live.

I am so confused. Am I being accused of being a gatekeeper? 🤔❓️

1 hour ago, solsous said:

You still refuse to talk about the beautiful game, what gives??

Mataeo seems like a talented kid, and I wish him all the best.

Like many on this forum, I come to learn about the progress of Canadian players, especially those players who may play for our National Teams ( senior, U20, U17 ).

He is an '05, so although he is seemingly too old for the '06 and younger group that will play U17 qualifiers next year, Mataeo is young enough to play in the next edition of the U20 qualifiers in 2024.

 

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You need two things to be able to be able to play for the National Team

#1 A Canadian passport.

#2 To be eligible per FIFA's rules.

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf

 

A player can still technically get on the pitch and play if they are not eligible ( criteria #2 ) but the opponent can contest the player's eligibility after the fact. The consequences can be serious for the team fielding a player who isn't eligible.

Here is probably one of the better known examples out of New Zeland:

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/12/new-zealands-olympic-football-place-in-jeopardy

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/70696876/ex-officials-say-new-zealand-football-should-have-known-fifas-eligibility-rules

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-olympics-oceania-idUKKCN0SH00B20151023

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/70397772/oly-whites-defender-deklan-wynne-ineligible---fifa-eligibility-expert

Deklan Wynne was eventually allowed to play for New Zealand but only after FIFA granted him a special exemption...

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/75939030/deklan-wynne-now-eligible-to-represent-new-zealand-in-football

...but at that point New Zealand had already been disqualified from Olympic Qualifying.

 

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Let us glance once again at our trusty FIFA PDF document, specifically at Article #6:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf

In our case "relevant association" =  Canada

- Mataeo was NOT born on the territory of relevant association.

- His biological father was NOT born on the territory of relevant association and ( if his mother is American as you @solsous state ) then his biological mother was NOT born on the territory of relevant association

- Assuming that Alex Bunbury's parents were not born in Canada ( Guyana I presume? ) and assuming his maternal grandparents were not born in Canada then his biological grandparents were NOT born on the territory of relevant association

- From what we know Mataeo is not FIFA eligible through residence since he has spent his whole life in the USA, therefore he has NOT lived on the territory of the relevant association

 

So where does that leave us? Am I missing something or am I just fucking crazy? Your thoughts @Onelessstar / @solsous ?

Edited July 6, 2022 by Olympique_de_Marseille

[Onelessstar]

4 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

I am so confused. Am I being accused of being a gatekeeper? 🤔❓️

Mataeo seems like a talented kid, and I wish him all the best.

Like many on this forum, I come to learn about the progress of Canadian players, especially those players who may play for our National Teams ( senior, U20, U17 ).

He is an '05, so although he is seemingly too old for the '06 and younger group that will play U17 qualifiers next year, Mataeo is young enough to play in the next edition of the U20 qualifiers in 2024.

 

---

 

You need two things to be able to be able to play for the National Team

#1 A Canadian passport.

#2 To be eligible per FIFA's rules.

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf

 

A player can still technically get on the pitch and play if they are not eligible ( criteria #2 ) but the opponent can contest the player's eligibility after the fact. The consequences can be serious for the team fielding a player who isn't eligible.

Here is probably one of the better known examples out of New Zeland:

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/12/new-zealands-olympic-football-place-in-jeopardy

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/70696876/ex-officials-say-new-zealand-football-should-have-known-fifas-eligibility-rules

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-olympics-oceania-idUKKCN0SH00B20151023

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/70397772/oly-whites-defender-deklan-wynne-ineligible---fifa-eligibility-expert

Deklan Wynne was eventually allowed to play for New Zealand but only after FIFA granted him a special exemption...

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/75939030/deklan-wynne-now-eligible-to-represent-new-zealand-in-football

...but at that point New Zealand had already been disqualified from Olympic Qualifying.

 

---

 

Let us glance once again at our trusty FIFA PDF document, specifically at Article #6:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf

In our case "relevant association" =  Canada

- Mataeo was NOT born on the territory of relevant association.

- His biological father was NOT born on the territory of relevant association and ( if his mother is American as you @solsous state ) then his biological mother was NOT born on the territory of relevant association

- Assuming that Alex Bunbury's parents were not born in Canada ( Guyana I presume? ) and assuming his maternal grandparents were not born in Canada then his biological grandparents were NOT born on the territory of relevant association

- From what we know Mataeo is not FIFA eligible through residence since he has spent his whole life in the USA, therefore he has NOT lived on the territory of the relevant association

 

So where does that leave us? Am I missing something or am I just fucking crazy? Your thoughts @Onelessstar / @solsous ?

OMF.... I am not @solsous. My "confusion" was with your passive aggressive line of questioning... your testing of whether one person knows another person as if it is an impossibility. My knowledge of this situation is nil.... apart from living near KC for about 4 years and having gone to "Wizards" games.

[Aird25]

Some unusually young vibes in this thread, and I think that’s likely good. I expected a Bunbury thread to be nothing but old gripes and/or nostalgia, with a heavy dose of nationality concerns. I appreciate anything else about this player I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen play

[solsous]

13 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

I am so confused. Am I being accused of being a gatekeeper? 🤔❓️

Mataeo seems like a talented kid, and I wish him all the best.

Like many on this forum, I come to learn about the progress of Canadian players, especially those players who may play for our National Teams ( senior, U20, U17 ).

He is an '05, so although he is seemingly too old for the '06 and younger group that will play U17 qualifiers next year, Mataeo is young enough to play in the next edition of the U20 qualifiers in 2024.

 

---

 

You need two things to be able to be able to play for the National Team

#1 A Canadian passport.

#2 To be eligible per FIFA's rules.

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf

 

A player can still technically get on the pitch and play if they are not eligible ( criteria #2 ) but the opponent can contest the player's eligibility after the fact. The consequences can be serious for the team fielding a player who isn't eligible.

Here is probably one of the better known examples out of New Zeland:

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/12/new-zealands-olympic-football-place-in-jeopardy

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/70696876/ex-officials-say-new-zealand-football-should-have-known-fifas-eligibility-rules

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-olympics-oceania-idUKKCN0SH00B20151023

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/70397772/oly-whites-defender-deklan-wynne-ineligible---fifa-eligibility-expert

Deklan Wynne was eventually allowed to play for New Zealand but only after FIFA granted him a special exemption...

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/75939030/deklan-wynne-now-eligible-to-represent-new-zealand-in-football

...but at that point New Zealand had already been disqualified from Olympic Qualifying.

 

---

 

Let us glance once again at our trusty FIFA PDF document, specifically at Article #6:

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf

In our case "relevant association" =  Canada

- Mataeo was NOT born on the territory of relevant association.

- His biological father was NOT born on the territory of relevant association and ( if his mother is American as you @solsous state ) then his biological mother was NOT born on the territory of relevant association

- Assuming that Alex Bunbury's parents were not born in Canada ( Guyana I presume? ) and assuming his maternal grandparents were not born in Canada then his biological grandparents were NOT born on the territory of relevant association

- From what we know Mataeo is not FIFA eligible through residence since he has spent his whole life in the USA, therefore he has NOT lived on the territory of the relevant association

 

So where does that leave us? Am I missing something or am I just fucking crazy? Your thoughts @Onelessstar / @solsous ?

I really don't understand the nuances of FIFA eligibility.  Here is what I know, he has obtained his Canadian citizenship and is in the process of getting his passport.

It would be a shame if he is ruled ineligible and the USA lures him into their program.

To circle back to my main point, let's talk about his play.  I know that many on this board has not seen him play.  Hopefully, when he starts playing in the USL Championship, we can have discourse about what he needs to work on in order to get to the next level.

Full disclosure:  I do know the team that he is signing with, but I will wait until it's made public by the team.

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

8 hours ago, Onelessstar said:

OMF.... I am not @solsous.

Glad you aren't both the same person! He claimed to be you! 🤣🤣🤣

8 hours ago, Onelessstar said:

My "confusion" was with your passive aggressive line of questioning.

Apologies if the questions came off that way. My intent is to continue to ask question until someone can confirm if he is either eligible or ineligible.

34 minutes ago, solsous said:

I really don't understand the nuances of FIFA eligibility.

Sometimes I'm not sure that even the CSA does! 🤣

34 minutes ago, solsous said:

Full disclosure:  I do know the team that he is signing with, but I will wait until it's made public by the team.

So you do have inside info! 

I may stop by Alex's Facebook page to try and ask him directly, but if ever you do find out if Mataeo ever lived in Canada or if his mother or maternal grandparents were born on Canadian soil, please share the info. Thank you.

 

Edited July 6, 2022 by Olympique_de_Marseille

[solsous]

17 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Glad you aren't both the same person! He claimed to be you! 🤣🤣🤣

Apologies if the questions came off that way. My intent is to continue to ask question until someone can confirm if he is either eligible or ineligible.

Sometimes I'm not sure that even the CSA does! 🤣

So you do have inside info! 

I may stop by Alex's Facebook page to try and ask him directly, but if ever you do find out if Mataeo ever lived in Canada or if his mother or maternal grandparents were born on Canadian soil, please share the info. Thank you.

 

As far as I know, Mataeo has never lived in Canada.  I have answered your question on this topic several times.  What gives??  His mom is a full blooded American.  If that goes against FIFA rules, that's up to the CSA.

[narduch]

As much as we can fault the CSA on other issues, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to dual national eligibility.

I doubt they bring him to the U20 camp if he was never going to be eligible

[solsous]

9 hours ago, Onelessstar said:

OMF.... I am not @solsous. My "confusion" was with your passive aggressive line of questioning... your testing of whether one person knows another person as if it is an impossibility. My knowledge of this situation is nil.... apart from living near KC for about 4 years and having gone to "Wizards" games.

Say man, I am sorry that you got drawn into this!  I post what I know, because I know Alex.  I am really anticipating post about his playing and does he have potential to make the senior team in the next cycle. 

[solsous]

3 minutes ago, narduch said:

As much as we can fault the CSA on other issues, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to dual national eligibility.

I doubt they bring him to the U20 camp if he was never going to be eligible

My sense is that the CSA played a key role in helping him get his citizenship.

[solsous]

Here is the whole fallout re: Mataeo leaving the team.

https://www.thebluetestament.com/2022/7/4/23194064/mataeo-bunbury-parts-ways-with-sporting-kansas-city-kc-mls-next-pro-skc-academy

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

11 minutes ago, narduch said:

As much as we can fault the CSA on other issues, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to dual national eligibility.

I doubt they bring him to the U20 camp if he was never going to be eligible

"They seem". This also comes down to whether or not you trust them regarding having brought in Juan Cordova.

[narduch]

14 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

"They seem". This also comes down to whether or not you trust them regarding having brought in Juan Cordova.

I'm basing this in Ugbo and a few others.

[El Diego]

39 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

"They seem". This also comes down to whether or not you trust them regarding having brought in Juan Cordova.

This was years ago under a different coaching regime... I get that was a pretty silly mistake they made but all subsequent evidence points to them being on the ball

[VinceA]

54 minutes ago, solsous said:

Here is the whole fallout re: Mataeo leaving the team.

https://www.thebluetestament.com/2022/7/4/23194064/mataeo-bunbury-parts-ways-with-sporting-kansas-city-kc-mls-next-pro-skc-academy

So looks like he will be exploring European options.

[solsous]

14 minutes ago, VinceA said:

So looks like he will be exploring European options.

I don't think so.  My understanding is that he wants to stay on North American soil.  I trust that to be a wise choice.  By leaving the MLS Next Pro, the MLS will no longer have his rights.

[MtlMario]

On 7/4/2022 at 6:11 PM, solsous said:

You can follow him on FB and ask those questions.  He is very active on social media.

Maybe you can ask him if he's still involved in a future Mtl area CPL team?😎

[Footyeh]

3 hours ago, narduch said:

As much as we can fault the CSA on other issues, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to dual national eligibility.

I doubt they bring him to the U20 camp if he was never going to be eligible

THIS!

Everyone can stop playing investigator on his situation, do you really think the CSA would bring him into a camp without first vetting his ability to represent the country? LOL

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

1 hour ago, Footyeh said:

do you really think the CSA would bring him into a camp without first vetting his ability to represent the country? LOL

Yes. Yes I do.

I suppose it doesn't speak highly of my esteem for the CSA in some respects. I am an eternal skeptic + it looked liked they did they same thing for Juan Cordova.

Edit: In Juan Cordova's case, he only ever played two friendly matches with the senior team so there was never enough at stake for an opponent to actually file a complaint with FIFA against the CSA.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Olympique_de_Marseille

[solsous]

19 hours ago, phresh said:

What are his strengths? What do you think his potential is?

He has a certain suddenness to his play.  He would make a pass or have movement that is unexpected of a 17 year old.  Unfortunately, because of very poor camera angles and no replays to confirm exactly what he intended on most of those plays, the jury is still out.

 

Potentially, I have no idea how far he can go.   I do believe that he should pay his due and not be over-hyped.  Quite frankly, I think that Russell-Rowe is way ahead of him.  In the coming weeks, he will be in his first professional environment, playing with better player.  Albeit, against better competition.